Brock is not afraid of punches(Myth debunked)

Deathbycalfkick said:
The Heath Herring that fought Lesnar was very far removed from the Heath Herring that gave Tom Erikson one of his only losses. Age is not the biggest factor in this equation it was miles.
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Yeah the same heath who beat kongo who beat crop cop who just came from pride, any more lame excuses?
 
WHITEBELT JESUS said:
He’d be less rich and CTE’d but it would have been one Helluva ride. Well until USADA.

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All fighters are on something, difference is they can take all the PEDs in the world and they wont be anything like him.
 
TerryBogard said:
Yeah the same heath who beat kongo who beat crop cop who just came from pride, any more lame excuses?
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When did HH beat Cro Cop? Or is this some kind of lame MMA math that you're trying to use to say since Heath beat Kongo who beat Mirko then he somehow beat Cro cop too...if that's the argument you are making lol
 
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It certainly looked to me in his fights that Brock did not like to get hit in the face or head. But my take is a little different in that he was afraid but still went out and fought those heavyweight monsters, knowing they were better than he was at striking. That takes guts. There's no courage without fear. Hanging in during that first-round beating by Carwin to come back and submit him in the second was impressive.

OtOH, it probably would've been better for him to have gotten comfortable being hit, and learning better how to respond to it. For example, it's hard to remember him countering effectively once someone was pounding him against the fence. He still beat everyone they put in front of him for a while, though, and that's impressive.
 
TerryBogard said:
Any more excuses?
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Lol I don't think you have a clue of what you're talking about. So since Brock beat Heath Herring who beat Cheik Kongo who beat Mirko then Herring somehow absorbed Kongos win over Mirko (who already beat HH decisively btw) somehow that translates to HH not being well past his sell by date by the time he fought Lesnar?

Are you familiar with the term MMAMath? Do you understand that this is not how the real world works? This entire thread screams casual.

"ANY mORe eXcUSes???" Lmao fucking casual.
 
Deathbycalfkick said:
Lol I don't think you have a clue of what you're talking about. So since Brock beat Heath Herring who beat Cheik Kongo who beat Mirko then Herring somehow absorbed Kongos win over Mirko (who already beat HH decisively btw) somehow that translates to HH not being well past his sell by date by the time he fought Lesnar?

Are you familiar with the term MMAMath? Do you understand that this is not how the real world works? This entire thread screams casual.

"ANY mORe eXcUSes???" Lmao fucking casual.
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Its usually the casuals who call people casual lol, heath was just like he was in pride, he was just outclassed by a better fighter when he faced brock, simple as that.
 
TerryBogard said:
What does join date have to do with anything? you do know there is no obligation to join this site as soon as you start watching mma?
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It's desperation. Some folks need angles to feel superior or get their "Up", "off" or whatever endorphin rush you care to classify it as.

Some prolly touch themselves while posting as well.
 
Deathbycalfkick said:
The Heath Herring that fought Lesnar was very far removed from the Heath Herring that gave Tom Erikson one of his only losses. Age is not the biggest factor in this equation it was miles.
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The fact of the matter is, Herring was always inconsistent. He was never some world beater, and did not have the tools to beat a freak athlete like Brock.

Although, the biggest factor in that fight wasn't miles or age, or anything. He quite literally got punched across the fucking cage in the first ten seconds of the fight. Game over. The one thing Heath didn't think he had to worry about was made a big factor, and probably fucked up any game plan he might've had. He took Brock lightly and paid dearly for it.
 
HereticBD said:
The fact of the matter is, Herring was always inconsistent. He was never some world beater, and did not have the tools to beat a freak athlete like Brock.

Although, the biggest factor in that fight wasn't miles or age, or anything. He quite literally got punched across the fucking cage in the first ten seconds of the fight. Game over. The one thing Heath didn't think he had to worry about was made a big factor, and probably fucked up any game plan he might've had. He took Brock lightly and paid dearly for it.
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Yeah but even without that punch he was outlcassed, he had no answer for the wrestling.
 
brock is a cheater who was scared to fight, let alone fight people his own size
 
TerryBogard said:
Yeah but even without that punch he was outlcassed, he had no answer for the wrestling.
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Yeah, I doubt the result would be any different. Just saying, if it wasn't already decided, making Heath see stars right out the gate and having him question the one area where he thought he could probably tool Lesnar in, surely didn't help Heath's confidence. Heath went in there with a big chip on his shoulder and Brock knocked it off in mere seconds.

Mir probably had a similar feeling in their 2nd fight, when his BJJ that saved his ass in the first fight, was getting completely nullified at every turn.
 
HereticBD said:
The fact of the matter is, Herring was always inconsistent. He was never some world beater, and did not have the tools to beat a freak athlete like Brock.

Although, the biggest factor in that fight wasn't miles or age, or anything. He quite literally got punched across the fucking cage in the first ten seconds of the fight. Game over. The one thing Heath didn't think he had to worry about was made a big factor, and probably fucked up any game plan he might've had. He took Brock lightly and paid dearly for it.
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Those are fair points, my contention is that Here was a difference fighter in the UFC than he was in Pride due to his 30 plus pro fights over nearly a decade which includes two absolute beatings by Mirko and Fedor. He was able to grapple and strike Nog to decision twice during both their primes. By the time he got to the UFC he was blown up, sloppy and seemingly forgot years of training at one of the best Dutch kickboxing schools in the world, as well as defensive grappling. As a huge fan of his watching his skills devolve so much was sad. He was a good win for Brock but it's disingenuous for Lesnar fans to act like that was the best version of HH in the cage that night.
 
HereticBD said:
Yeah, I doubt the result would be any different. Just saying, if it wasn't already decided, making Heath see stars right out the gate and having him question the one area where he thought he could probably tool Lesnar in, surely didn't help Heath's confidence. Heath went in there with a big chip on his shoulder and Brock knocked it off in mere seconds.

Mir probably had a similar feeling in their 2nd fight, when his BJJ that saved his ass in the first fight, was getting completely nullified at every turn.
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Yeah Brock made mir and heath look like complete amateurs and totally dominated both, its ironic since both of them made fun of brock not being a "real fighter".
 
Deathbycalfkick said:
The Heath Herring that fought Lesnar was very far removed from the Heath Herring that gave Tom Erikson one of his only losses. Age is not the biggest factor in this equation it was miles.
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Heath was tending the gate in Pride..
In the UFC Brock sent him packing...
 
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