Strong belief in God= Goat status?

[Goatenstein]

Christians are already getting scared for when the muslims are the majority.

 

[g*r*b]

Supreme confidence is necessary for goat status. It just so happens one of the easiest shortcuts to that level of confidence is if you happen to be devoutly religious, so it’s a massive boost in that area. However if you are not super religious, supreme confidence can still be achieved by other avenues. Like GSP for example. Then it comes down to confidence in your abilities, due to hard work, sacrifice & proven results, plus whatever non-religious motivations come from one’s upbringing. Faith is just a massive shortcut for those who happen to have it.

Interestingly, GSP is the one in the bunch mentioned most open about his fears and insecurities about fighting.

 

[PeterGriffin]

I think there are a few reasons why fighters are inclined to attribute a higher power for any success(es) they may have. As already stated, a lot of fighters come from poorer or shady environments and it's a way out of shitty lifestyles for them.

Also, with boxers and mixed martial artists, the path to success involves hurting someone else and hopefully avoid being hurt too badly. I think ultimately most fighters and boxers are confident in their abilities, but the concept of a god looking out for them is almost like a security blanket as a child. They don't really need it, but it brings them comfort and a sense of peace. If they can make it through a fight without getting hurt too badly, or worse, hurting someone else permanently, it is something to be thankful for.

 

[Iron Nick]

Fun fact: the Gracie's have a long connection with Brazilian fascism and plenty of them are religious . Dig even slightly deep and you'll find a lot of horrid ideology and backwards views within the space of MMA . Various reasons for it but few are honest about it .

"My honor is my loyalty."
- Renzo Himmler Gracie

On a more serious note though, i had no idea that they actually have connections to fascism; in Renzo's case i just thought he was some kind of idiot who held right-wing views, but nothing more.
But yeah, now this all makes a lot more sense, with the Himmler quote and so on.

 

[mortal]

The overwhelming majority of people on the planet believe in a magical sky daddy. Especially in countries like Brazil and America.

Dumb thread

Well, if you're right about America then they do a remarkable job of not only hiding it but appearing as quite the opposite.

I disagree. The majority of the world doesn't believe and it shows.

 

[Iron Nick]

Lol always fun watching the Atheists squirm and name call people with belief in God in threads like these. They’re the most insecure people of all I believe.

Na, religious people are way more insecure.
It ain't the atheists who constantly kill others over their beliefs.

 

[sonofjay817]

The overwhelming majority of people on the planet believe in a magical sky daddy. Especially in countries like Brazil and America.

Dumb thread

The thread is not dumb. Respectfully, your reply is very dumb. Maybe you should take some time to reflect why you feel compelled to be so negative.

 

[Iron Nick]

Well, if you're right about America then they do a remarkable job of not only hiding it but appearing as quite the opposite.

I disagree. The majority of the world doesn't believe and it shows.

The majority believe in god, but they're shitty people who don't take their values seriously.

Case in point: christian people who go to church all the time and pray before every meal but don't give a single fuck about things like poverty, homelessness and other social issues.

I mean shit, capitalism couldn't be further from the teachings of Jesus, yet most religious folks will defend it to the death.

 

[sonofjay817]

I heard Tyson Fury tonight talking about how his lord and saviour helped him rally in the 3rd and fourth round and it got me thinking.

Fedor: Strong belief in God
Khabib: Strong belief in God
Vitor Belfort: Same
Anderson Silva: Same
GSP: not so much, at least not publicly.
Mike Tyson: Same
Muhammad Ali: Same


Even Jon Jones never stops talking about God even when he’s driving drunk or doing steroids or beating up his wife.

that’s almost every single goat I can think of.

Almost all Brazilian fighters.

It must help you in some way.

Yeah, this is a very interesting observation. I remember someone making the same observation twenty years ago in the early years of the UFC. I would suspect that there is something very empowering in being of the mindset that one is fighting for a greater good than ones self. That being said, I'm not trying to explain away God. I'm actually a devout Christian, but as you observe, this advantage seems to be the case regardless of which God they profess.

...I think I said 'observe' too much. Oh well.

 

[mortal]

The majority believe in god, but they're shitty people who don't take their values seriously.

Case in point: christian people who go to church all the time and pray before every meal but don't give a single fuck about things like poverty, homelessness and other social issues.

I mean shit, capitalism couldn't be further from the teachings of Jesus, yet most religious folks will defend it to the death.

Belief and religion are not the same thing but I don't blame you for mixing them up, many do.
I agree (to a point) about religious ones but even then, things differ from person to person. There are religious people who walk the walk more or less. Then there are religious ones who can be the worst of people on general.
Even when it's about religion and religious people, things are not that clear to put a pin on them.

Btw, I also agree with what you said about capitalism but I'd add communism, socialism and all the rest in. Someone might ask "Which kind of government would be the closest to Jesus' teachings?". Tough to say really but I lean to democracy; Giving the people the freedom to do what they want, even if it'll blow up in their faces. I could be wrong but that's what I'd pick currently.

 

[TheMessiah]

Infidels can't fight

 

[Lawrence]

Yeah and guess who's the most intelligent and thoughtful one out of those mentioned.

Georges St-Pierre.

Guess who crossed himself every time he stepped into the cage?

 

[Iron Nick]

Guess who crossed himself every time he stepped into the cage?

Even if he were religious, he's by far the least religious and least dogmatic out of those mentioned, though.

 

[Lawrence]

Even if he were religious, he's by far the least religious and least dogmatic out of those mentioned, though.

Dogmatic? You know him that well?

Nothing more dogmatic than crossing yourself bro?

The evangelical speech making by others is not dogmatic in the least, unless you are Islamic.

GSP just isn’t vocal about faith…. He may just be a guy that lets his actions speak for him….

 

[textwarrior]

When people go to war, and bullets are whizzing by their heads: they get Godly real quick. However, I think the people who know God fear God over the fear of death. Sometimes you have to be purged on the inside by The fire to know what this means. It is that fire inside that fights itself. Its like two wills battling it out, two types of fire, one like a literal fire that is filled with anger for the will of the flesh but the other is filled with a fire that is like a comforting fire against your own will. It burns but in a different way. Instead of draining you, it actually invigorates you. You feel more alive and it feels like you are being energized as you are waking up. It operates like a double edge sword dividing itself when you sit back and watch the war within yourself.

No one has to, or can prove what goes on within yourself as far as knowing God. Its just a spectacle to anyone other than yourself but as it says .....not all...but many.......many are called but few are chosen. Few find it, and the ones that do, had be purged by the fire. He came with water but another greater comes with fire. This is all an internal or spiritual war being described and the issue of what someone else sees is not up to you. They can spectate all they want but if they are not being purged than they are not being called which means they can never be eventually chosen. Not all are called but many are.

If you have discernment, you can tell what kind of tree it is and what fruits are being produced. Their is a nature that you know when you see it. Like if you are an American, under that kingdom, or that country, and you left to another country....you can tell who is from the same country or kingdom. It is that same thing with discernment in knowing what kind of person is actually a Christian but as far as fighting....when your at your lows and in the prayer closet, not the streets shouting you are a Christian, it will benefit you only if your doing God's will being done. If your fighting, like anything you do, there is going to be tribulations and God can become your cornerstone as you walk through the shadow of death.

 

[Garnet_StrongerThanYou]

The thread is not dumb. Respectfully, your reply is very dumb. Maybe you should take some time to reflect why you feel compelled to be so negative.

thanks bud.

 

[Joonyer]

 

[M.U.S.C.L.E.]

It's because you can do anything through Christ. That's why the most successful people in society tend to be theists, while atheists tend to be the people living in their mom's basement, single, unhappy, unaccomplished, and spending all their time talking about how people of God are dumb and weak.

"Yeah people who believe in God are so weak... oops just hold on a second I have to take my anti-depressants now or I might kill myself."

Most of Europe is atheist, and they have a higher standard of living than basement-dwelling, god-fearing men like yourself.
Take notes.

 

[M.U.S.C.L.E.]

Lol always fun watching the Atheists squirm and name call people with belief in God in threads like these. They’re the most insecure people of all I believe.

Last week the Catholic Church announced it raped 330,000 boys in France.
You went to church this morning.

The sense of security with which religious people move in this world is frightening.

 

[blewgums]

Every great fighter shits.

In order to be the best, you must take shits.