Social Biden Ushers in the Ministry of Truth era

i am personally amused that nobody seems to take @Jack V Savage seriously anymore.
the pseudo-intellectual windbag "meaning of is is" type of sophistic horseshit he's been peddling here for years has become transparent to a lot of people i see. nice.


there used to be some pretty intelligent people who were in love with him and lent him credence but that seems to have passed. hes full of shit in the most profound ways. people like him are why the tao te ching teaches NOT to value talent or gifts or even intelligence over something more intangible and deeper. you can have all those things and still be WAY off.
 
The thing that's most annoying about the intellectual grave-raping of Orwell was that when he was alive, he wrote about why he writes, and so it's very easy to see. Generally he was an extremely clear thinker and there's no excuse for people getting him so wrong.

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/why-i-write/

Key bit:
From the key bit:

Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.

I'm curious, do you know what the contemporary or past examples of democratic socialism he held as admirable or promising?
 
You would think people would applaud this after all the energy they spend complaining about fake news and biased news sources. I can understand people's concern about this but I'm even more curious what they think should be done about fake news and biased reporting instead?

NOTHING. Leave people alone, let them hear both sides of the argument and let them make up their own damn minds. You know, like adults.

The last thing that anyone needs is for the government to be in charge of deciding what is and isn't true... especially run by a rabid lefty like they have put in charge.
 
Trump calling CNN fake news and calling reporters liars is nowhere near the same as the US Government creating a ministry to battle “disinformation”.

Not even close.
Which has been more effective?

Trump using twitter and socia media as his pulpit to create distrust and legitimise false narratives had a profound impact on American society. He circumvented any checks and balances, and looking from the outside it's had a devastating effect. It shattered something very fundamental. The Biden admin shooting themselves in the foot with this move only shows that they don't have any grasp on what's going on in the minds of the people outside of their own bubble. Look at how easily it's been to fuel the Orwell conspiracies and "Ministry of Truth" narratives. Not to mention, creating a board this way with all the red tape and oversight will only limit their ability to do anything. It's shitty politics and bad policy.

They are dinosaurs and can't even begin to match what Trump did, has done or might still do. I also wonder with his own social media platform called Truth Social, as the arbiter of truth with no oversight, where are the outcries of newspeek? It seems to me, whether the question is truth or free speech, neither are importantly principles as long as the "libs gets owned". It's scary honestly.
 
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They are dinosaurs and can't even begin to match what Trump did, has done or might still do. He's created his own social media platform called Truth Social, as the arbiter of truth with no oversight, where are the outcries of newspeek? It seems to me, whether the question is truth or free speech, neither are importantly principles as long as the "libs gets owned". It's scary honestly.
Biden is Orwellian and sinking the ship and leftists can't help but talk about Trump.

We were much better off with Trump over this Orwellian Brandon administration.

The world, the globalists, the leftists hate freedoms and hate Trump because he's not bought off by the United Nations, Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum. Brandon sold us out, sold out American sovereignty and wants us to join the New World Order
 
Jesus, people are actually defending this.
Really leaning to the whole "evil empire" thing, aren't you?

Anyway, just add this to the list of things that make Biden shitty.

just take note of who those people are and never take them seriously ever again. They already are the same people that bought into pretty much every fake narrative the news and establishment has created for years.

russia hoax

Ukraine impeachment/hunter Biden laptop

Gov whiteners kidnapping

Everyone needs force COVID vaccine and Wuhan lap theory is fake

CRT is not a real thing and parents need to be watched by FBI

The election was free and fair and 1/6 was an actual insurrection

BLM riots were peaceful and White domestic terrorists are the biggest threat to the population when there is record crime and homicides from mostly by non-whites

black people are too stupid to get an ID and sign their name so we need federal take over of elections to ensure we mail out millions of ballots, including extra ones cause cleaning voter rolls is racist and we should count them all without needing an ID or signature

it goes on and on

and the crazy woman the out in charge? Well she believed and pushed all these fake narratives and disinformation too. She is like the epitome of #blueAnon
 
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They've got to shift gears. No one listens to the propaganda media unironically and the propaganda tech has both been exposed and taken from them... This play is desperate. The mindless don't need to be convinced as they'll cling to their identity til the end but everyone else can see the "government" doesn't care about the people, our rights or our country...
 
i am personally amused that nobody seems to take @Jack V Savage seriously anymore.
the pseudo-intellectual windbag "meaning of is is" type of sophistic horseshit he's been peddling here for years has become transparent to a lot of people i see. nice.

I’ve been baffled for years as to why anybody would put themselves through an argument with that guy. One of the most dishonest and plainly unpleasant posters I’ve seen on here in 20 years.
 
sheep need to be led...otherwise they do whatever the fuck sheep do. Probably nothing or at best get eaten or fall off cliffs. Of course the governing body is to control narrative otherwise why have it in the first place. But i disagree, part of the point is to protect the sheep from themselves. Given free reign the sheep will believe whomever the loudest shitbag spouting the loudest nonsense they can hear.
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Do you think your ability to decide what is or isn’t true will be taken away, or something?
I see this disinformation governance board being weaponized. It's part of DHS which deals with terrorism. Anyone that speaks out against the government actions could be labeled and treated like a terrorist.
 
Those same people would be losing their shit if this idea was proposed by the Republicans. In other words, those people are either stupid, without principles or don't care about anything but dunking on the opposition. Literal deplorables.

Very true. The Left compares Trump and his voters to Nazis using the loosest possible logic for 6 years now. The fact that the Left supports this says so much. No coincidence that it comes right after Musk buys Twitter. How hypocritical. For years they defended Twitter's biased moderation and said it's a private company. With this move, they're only validating everything the Right has been saying about the power of Twitter for years now.
 
I see this disinformation governance board being weaponized. It's part of DHS which deals with terrorism. Anyone that speaks out against the government actions could be labeled and treated like a terrorist.

Plus, the point of it will be being able to censor information. That takes aways one ability to decide what is right and what is wrong to begin with, because all the information won't be presented to them

Just with Hunter Biden's laptop 1 out of every 6 people who voted for Biden wouldn't have if they had known about it prior to the election. But the mainstream establishment deemed it false information and it was censored on twitter, facebook, etc, because of that mainstream establishment label of misinformation.

And people might deflect to, "oh that was a private company, they can do what they want, blah blah blah".. But this is allowing the government to do it, which is not a private company. Moreover, being under DHS, they will be able to go outside the normal law and legal process.

Just like how they raided a journalists like project veritas in the middle of the night to take all their devices, etc. Did they do anything illegal? No. They did it because they wanted to hurt PV, so that people aren't presented with all the potentilal information and given the ability to decide for themselves.

Anyone who doesn't understand that and/or doesn't think this is a bad thing that will be weaponized is a straight up idiot.

Very true. The Left compares Trump and his voters to Nazis using the loosest possible logic for 6 years now. The fact that the Left supports this says so much. No coincidence that it comes right after Musk buys Twitter. How hypocritical. For years they defended Twitter's biased moderation and said it's a private company. With this move, they're only validating everything the Right has been saying about the power of Twitter for years now.

And it isn't just twitter. Take the example of Project Veritas I just used, being raided by the FBI in the middle of the night, despite doing nothing illegal. That is intimidation and they used it to monitor what they might have on their devices and/or destroy them

Left wing posters on here in any thread that has PV info, is basically like "ha, PV, it must be fake"... that is their opinion, but I also ask, what has PV actually been provably wrong about? Is it cause they might take something a bit out of context and/or edit it? The mainstream media does that ALL THE TIME. Give me a fucking break.

But that just highlights that they don't want people to simply be able to decide for themselves. They want to shut down opposition voices. So the facebook whistle blower, super leftist lady calling for more censorship is a hero, but the ones from pfizer should be treated like terroristts? The pfizer one wasn't even a poilitical person, she was simply concerned with what she was seeing. And that is what they are afraid of.
 
I am fucking floored that there are people who are okay with this.

I mean fucking blown away

It's sad how consistently liberals show that they are everything they claim their enemies are. Screeching about Nazis when confronted by different political opinions, but supporting a Ministry of Truth in 2022 America is okay? Is it surprising anymore? I can't say that it is. There are alt-Left posters on here that represent that hypocrisy and extremism across multiple threads. The damage they've done to the Democratic Party may be beyond fixing.
 
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