Again these socialists claiming 2 nationalities at once?

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According to Sherdog Sokodjou is (fighting) from the USA.
Francis Ngannou is listed as French.
How are they all of a sudden Cameroonian? Can they have two ethnicities at once?
Why are they living in the USA when they represent another country? Is USA a cow which everyone could milk for own or another country's profit?
 
I mean heck that's better than wanting the credit for being an African champion, Kiwi, and Chinese.

People just play whatever card suits their current narrative, as if most people in MMA don't have non-homogeneous backgrounds
 
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Who cares? For someone like Francis he is both very much so French and Cameroonian, a French Cameroonian. Izzy was born in Nigeria and he grew up some there and New Zealand, which is where he now lives. A Nigerian Kiwi.

Are you implying people shouldn't train or live elsewhere than the country they were born? Or that people should identify souly, if at all as a fighter from wherever it is they train? Many guys train abroad, or train in multiple different countries year round.

Maybe people are multi ethnic, truthfully and people like the push back against this but everyone is multi ethnic...Every ethnicity stems from groups splitting and other groups joining and changing.
 
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Because they were born there?
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Okay but when asked to identify what you represent, and you say "France", and then claim the UFC is trying to erase you from history when someone who DID represent Cameroon instead is claimed to be the first... That's intellectual dishonesty.

It might be true that he has Cameroonian roots, but in sports, you are given one country to represent. It's usually the one you live in.
 
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Talon81 said:
Okay but when asked to identify what you represent, and you say "France", and then claim the UFC is trying to erase you from history when someone who DID represent Cameroon instead is claimed to be the first... That's intellectual dishonesty.
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That doesn't look like France's flag
 
milenss said:
According to Sherdog Sokodjou is (fighting) from the USA.
Francis Ngannou is listed as French.
How are they all of a sudden Cameroonian? Can they have two ethnicities at once?
Why are they living in the USA when they represent another country? Is USA a cow which everyone could milk for own or another country's profit?
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Does it really matter?
We all bleed just the same
 
milenss said:
How are they all of a sudden Cameroonian? Can they have two ethnicities at once?
Why are they living in the USA when they represent another country? Is USA a cow which everyone could milk for own or another country's profit?
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Just to answer all of this quickly before it derails wildly as it is bound to:
They always were Cameroonian, SD doesn't list dual citizenship.
Sure.
Why wouldn't they, people can live wherever as long as they have a visa.
Not literally, but metaphorically I would say that's in the ballpark.
 
Tatra said:
You just said nationalities, now you're saying ethnicities. Make up your mind. And learn what 'ethnicity' means.
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I'm not claiming to be from 2 countries so do not ask me about this question. Ask the aformentioned.
It looks like the UFC is also having this problem because on different statistics the same people are tagged as different nationalities.
 
who has ever made the rule that a person can only support/be from 1 nation?. Is this some loyalty question? like.....you are either from x nationality or not. with us or against us. 100% total bullshit
if you mother is german, your father is russiand and you were born and raised in canada and later in life you married a spanish woman and live in spain........than all of a sudden you have to chose 1 nationality?

nobody can force another person their idenitity makin it that black and white. ngannou will have feelings for both cameroon and france and if he lives long enough in america......well heck why cant he be american too. cut the bullshit with nationalism/patriotism and stop dividing people.
 
I was born in Chicago, but only lived there a few years, but then went on to spend most of my time in the US in SoCal. So when people ask where I'm from in the US . . I say I'm "form San Diego". If they as where I was born, I say "Chicago". But I haven't lived in the US for decades, and I train in Spain. So when I compete I represent Spain.

But here's the CRAZY part: I'm still American. And if you ask me where I'm from, I answer "The US". Wild, right?

P.S. And I didn't just "magically" say/represent Spain. It's only after I was here for years that I felt that kind of attachment. I suspect that people who stay in one place/one country simply have a hard time wrapping their heads around the concept of feeling like you belong to multiple places. Is normal.
 
at everybody who is ranting over the nationality in mma......who gives a flying fuck. this is not a team sport, this not the olympics where medals get counted with each nation. nobody gives a shit. we all love mma. why the fuck would i care if ngannou is cameroon or france.

do you really care if he fights under x flag or y flag?
 
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