Why Couldn't Fedor Beat Bader?

[GrantB13]

Because the first punch dropped him?

 

[Cartiac]

I may be getting a little crazy here but I think the reason may have had something to do with how hard Bader punched him in the face.

 

[Royce Greasy]

I will never ever get over the fact that there's a group of fight fans( not just new ones) who don't understand the idea of wear and tear and fight age. Absolutely mind boggling

I just find that near 2010 when the sport really became popular and mainstream it attracted a lot of pro wrestling fans and people that would have never paid attention to the sport, also back in the late 90's there was never this UFC brand obsession actually fighters that were in the UFC fought in other orgs at the same time.

Point is whenever something goes mainstream it slowly regresses and that's what's happening.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Was he also 80 years old in ring years when he lost back to back to back against Werdum, Bigfoot, and Hendo at the age of 34?

At that point he had been competing in Combat Sambo and mma for a decade many fighters in UFC have 5 or 6 year careers, your point is silly and non sensical garbage. Saying well fighter A accomplished this at 34 but fighter B couldn't is equally as dumb and short sighted as well because every persons body is physically and chemically different just like people age at different rates, totally stupid point.

 

[HereticBD]

His chin was James Thompson level by that point. Fighters age, and get slower and softer. What can you do?

 

[Royce Greasy]

Straight punches are faster than slow hooks. Prime Fedor was really quick for a HW but speed and reaction are the first to go out the window.

Fedor's punches are straight not looping, I have his fight techniques book and all Fedor does when he throws his punches is cork screw or turn his hand over so that his thumb is pointing down towards the ground that way he connects with the largest knuckles and the punch has more of a whipping action, punching in this way also makes your shoulder come up and protect your chin as well.

When this technique is observed it appears that the punch is looping but in fact it's straight and faster than the traditional straight right or cross.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Because Fedor is overrated as hell. He lost to 50 year old MW fighter in Henderson.

Hendo wasn't 50 and if Fedor is a can for losing to Hendo then so is Big Nog, Sobral, Yvel all HW's as well.

 

[Oldman1]

Its true, most overrated fighter of all time.

 

[Ibm]

- Bader was a nightmare matchup for him
- Bader was criminally underrated
- Bader was bigger and more agile

 

[AfroBanana]

Fedor was 2 months from turning 35 years old when he fought Hendo you dishonest internet chump.

Morons like you think Shogun was still in his prime at 32 years old, completely disregarding the injuries and mileage he had.

Fedor was on a nasty skid and had lost 2 in a row and took a lot of damage in his fight with Bigfoot just 5 months before he fought Hendo. Hendo is an all time great who was on a tear and melting guys so much that he went to the UFC and beat up Shogun and got a title shot against Jon Jones after he beat Fedor. That's not a "grandpa" it's a peaking all time great.

You try to spin it like losing to a legend like Henderson 10+ years into your career is some kind of embarrassment. Smh.

It's amazing how Fedor is universally respected by fighters and combat athletes all over the world but the losers on sherdog who can't do 5 pull ups need to shit on him in every thread.

Low vibrational internet losers.

You’re full of shit.

They can’t do a single strict pull up.

 

[Kingz]

Because Fedor no longer had the reflexes or chin to make up for keeping his hands down.

Bader has a lot of power.

 

[OLD RED]

Its true, most overrated fighter of all time.

 

[icemun]

When did Cro Cop drive a bus and how long was Mintauro a plumber for? Asswipe..

martin lazarov (0-2)
levon lagilava (1-3)
hiroya takada (1-3)
mihail apostolov (0-1)
ryushi yanagisawa (24-25)
lee hasdell (9-14)
chris haseman (20-17)
gary goodridge (23-22)
yuji nagata (0-2)
naoya ogawa (7-2)
zulu (9-9)
hong man choi (4-5)
jaideep singh (2-3)

list is missing

Kenny Gettup and Willie Makeit

 

[icemun]

u deserve to get pimp slapped for this post

 

[Thatlookinhiseyes]

Demetrius Johnson was a forklift driver for the first 18 fights in his career until after he lost to Cruz for the bw title. Just because they have a job doesn’t mean they aren’t good mma fighters. Just mean being a fighter doesn’t pay the bills.

 

[mkt]

fedor was 32 years old when he looked like a b level fighter in a drug testing org

hes 34 years old when he fought grandpa hendo (basicaly your lying)
hes 33 when he started losing literally young for a HW

your lying when you said hes 35 when he fought grandpa hendo

can we just agree that he looked like a b level fighter in a drug testing org?
jon jones on the other hand strangles HW's the same age fedor went losing
jon jones basicaly fought monsters all his life
dont talk about competition
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please dont lie

Oh, c'mon. We all know Mihail Aposolosomething was on his way to GOAThood before Fedor beat him! And don't forget fights like this during the middle of Fedor's Pride prime.

Choi - freak show
Lindland - MW and Fedor grabbed the rope
Hunt - green in MMA and in the middle of a 6-loss streak. Sean McCorkle beat him faster and easier than Fedor
Coleman - One dimensional 1990s wrestler who left the UFC on a 3-loss streak and was in his 40s by this point
Zulu - More of a freak show than Choi

 

[moreorless87]

At that point he had been competing in Combat Sambo and mma for a decade many fighters in UFC have 5 or 6 year careers, your point is silly and non sensical garbage. Saying well fighter A accomplished this at 34 but fighter B couldn't is equally as dumb and short sighted as well because every persons body is physically and chemically different just like people age at different rates, totally stupid point.

The strange thing is people who claim you can't decline at that age have no problem with claims guys like Cain and JDS declining even earlier.

 

[OLD RED]

Oh, c'mon. We all know Mihail Aposolosomething was on his way to GOAThood before Fedor beat him! And don't forget fights like this during the middle of Fedor's Pride prime.

Choi - freak show
Lindland - MW and Fedor grabbed the rope
Hunt - green in MMA and in the middle of a 6-loss streak. Sean McCorkle beat him faster and easier than Fedor
Coleman - One dimensional 1990s wrestler who left the UFC on a 3-loss streak and was in his 40s by this point
Zulu - More of a freak show than Choi


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Lindland was an Olympic medalist who fought prime Rampage one fight prior to fighting Fedor in a fight which went to a close split decision and a lot of people thought Lindland won. Rampage went on to knock out Chuck to become the UFC LHW champion and then beat Hendo to unify the belts. Lindland being competitive with him was impressive. Fedor was a small HW. He wasn't bigger than Rampage on fight night and he submitted Lindland in the first round without throwing a punch.

Mark Hunt went on to fight for a title in the UFC like 10 years after Fedor beat him and beat the shit out of multi title contender Derrick Lewis like it was nothing. That was a good win for Fedor despite you being a little chump and cherry picking Hunts bad moments in the sport during a difficult stretch of his career.

Coleman was coming off a win over top 5 P4P Shogun. It wasn't an amazing win for Fedor but the original plan was to fight Barnett at that event who ducked Fedor and fought Nastula instead so Pride gave Coleman a shot. Fedor absolutely beat the shit out of him and Coleman still went on to be competitive with Shogun in the UFC years after that and still beat guys like Bonnar.

Your hatred for Fedor is strong.

 

[moreorless87]

Fedor's punches are straight not looping, I have his fight techniques book and all Fedor does when he throws his punches is cork screw or turn his hand over so that his thumb is pointing down towards the ground that way he connects with the largest knuckles and the punch has more of a whipping action, punching in this way also makes your shoulder come up and protect your chin as well.

When this technique is observed it appears that the punch is looping but in fact it's straight and faster than the traditional straight right or cross.

Yep, during his best years especially you actually do not see him throwing repeated left/right hooks very often at all, at least not against fresh opponents.

A big issue that made his punches look "looping" as well I would say is that he tended to combine them with body movement, he would not keep an upright body position as most MMA do but would shift with the punches and often with a response to what was coming back at him.

I feel like MMA fans tend to live in bizzaro world were there sold this idea that fighting in a mechanic upright fashion is "good technique".

 

[Ibm]

We should not kid ourselves, Bader in his Prime would still be a nightmare for Prime Fedor. Styles make fights.