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Yes, that what is a warrant is for. An arrest is not guaranteed. Where is the evidence agents initiated force? Provide it.
Once again, search warrants at a person's home are almost always served at their home. It is indeed "fairly standard." As mentioned, he was also acting erratically in public. None of this is concrete proof of anything but there is no reason to believe he should have been served the warrant anywhere else.
A "mission" can be executed according to standard procedure and not have a favorable outcome. It's unfortunate but it happens.
This is humorous:
"A warrant is issued when a judge is convinced that evidence shows probability that a crime has occurred or crime is ongoing."
What specific crime did the deceased commit? What specific Federal law did they break? I'm not saying that none were committed or broken....
Anyways, the information has been made public and is in this thread. You are more than free to read about it. Additionally, firearms he sold illegally were found in crimes being committed, which is how they got onto him in the first place.
The discussion has pretty much ran its course and until further details are released it's just speculation. I'll wait to see if something actually comes of this.
I never said they initiated force. Why would you ask me to provide evidence of such since it's never been my contention? Reading comprehension isn't a strong point?
By your logic "Where is the evidence that the ATF did not initiate force? ". Provide it for us? You don't have it. It's all "Random Gov't source told ABC news" or such concerning what occured. Conjecture at this point.
Standard procedure is a term within your head. Provide any and all documentation that shows that what they did was "standard procedure" and that they couldn't deviate from it; couldn't set up a sting buy in a parking lot or hotel as they've done in the past or simply use superior numbers and detained him in public in a surprise rush as they've also done.
If you think choosing to interact peacefully with a suspect in undercover situations, planning an operation to the place he keeps his weapons and ammo, then arriving in non-descript vehicles in the dark to serve a surprise warrant is anything but absolutely moronic given the myriad of other options and the injury to the agent and death of the suspect I don't know what to say.
You hold law enforcement to exceptionally low standards concerning their planning and actions. The loss of this citizen's life isn't a concern for you and you don't appear to feel that change is needed or that all involved shoud see scrutiny and possibly implement change to the "standard procedure" that saw one person killed.
Once again, what crimes SPECIFIALLY did he commit? He was never convicted of a crime. Never went to trial. He was killed during a surprise raid on his home in the dark before dawn. What, specifically did he do to warrant this? Sold what prohibited item to whom in violation of waht Federal Statute?
Bad guy did bad thing. Federal Government told me so. He fired first they said. And the killed them. Move on, nothing to talk about until the next time they shoot a US Citizen in the head during an early morning raid that could have been avoided. DERP!