Opinion Mexican president claims that criminal groups are ‘respectful’ and ‘respect the citizenry’

[oldshadow]

I certainly didn't say that. So not sure why you're bringing that up. I'm pointing out that blaming Mexico for America's love of drugs is hilarious, as is thinking that increasing the value of drugs would be good for society.

I don't blame Mexican unless the government supports or condones the illegal importation of it to the US. Which this president did.

However it's our problem and responsibly to control our borders so it's our problem. We do that by closing and controlling our borders.

Then since the president of Mexico view that the people trying to bring drugs into our country are good respectful people we stop all aid and help to him.

The people dealing drugs here are our problem and we deal with them and their violence. We build more prisons and lock violent drug dealers for life.

If drugs get harder to get and rhr price go's up so what. We give the power to the people to protect themselves and training and money to the police to deal with it.

We don't go with your plan to just not try to stop it.

 

[Belaya Smert]

They also pay bribes and were good enough not to murder his whole family and everyone within a city block.
What’s not to believe

 

[idrankyourbeer]

this kinda sounds of a hostage kidnapped by the taliban putting out some kind of video praising and bootlicking the taliban while theres's a bunch of taliban members in the background holding ak-47's about ready to blow the dudes head off.

 

[Madmick]

LOL at poverty as "the root cause".

Yeah, I think we can say with confidence that Obrador is a broken coward: works for the cartels. It's not even a serpentine channel. Takes his orders directly from them.

The first time the Mexican authorities arrested El Chapo's son it was by accident in an unrelated drug raid. They weren't prepared. It resulted in a staredown that ultimately made its way to the President's desk, and he made the call to let the kid go because he knew otherwise all of his SWAT and any other military or police he could tap in the immediate area would be slaughtered if he didn't.

That's power.

You wouldn't even see an arrest or raid like that, anymore. The government lost the war. They surrendered under the coward that is their current President. The socialist imp even tried to blame it on the US. Said he wouldn't be our "policemen". When the cartels murdered over 150K Mexicans between 2006-2016 alone, and continue that pace today. The American people aren't his bourgeoisie in need of a state-ordained bodyguard. Nobody here is dying that didn't snort their death up his own nose, or inject it into his own arm. He just wants their junkie money, and he's willing to flood his own streets with his own people's blood for a share of it.

Mexico’s president says he won’t fight drug cartels on US orders, calls it a ‘Mexico First’ policy​

Mexico is a de facto narco state. The cartels run it. Obrador is their poodle begging for a cut of the take.

 

[Dalarna3]

This is what coexistence looks like.

 

[Siver!]

You wouldn't even see an arrest or raid like that, anymore. The government lost the war. They surrendered under the coward that is their current President. The socialist imp even tried to blame it on the US. Said he wouldn't be our "policemen". When the cartels murdered over 150K Mexicans between 2006-2016 alone, and continue that pace today. The American people aren't his bourgeoisie in need of a state-ordained bodyguard. Nobody here is dying that didn't snort their death up his own nose, or inject it into his own arm. He just wants their junkie money, and he's willing to flood his own streets with his own people's blood for a share of it.

Mexico’s president says he won’t fight drug cartels on US orders, calls it a ‘Mexico First’ policy​

Mexico is a de facto narco state. The cartels run it. Obrador is their poodle begging for a cut of the take.

'INSERT COUNTRY FIRST' should be taken as an early warning system and political red flag that someone is bought and paid for. It works across the political aisle.

It is a precursor and an excuse for the pursuit of ridiculous policies with no shame whatsoever by those intent on throwing order into chaos to serve themselves at any expense.

It's the byword for corrupt pieces of shit.

 

[Zer]

If you read a few Anabel Hernandez books you see how thoroughly cartels are supported and dependent on government corruption. I remember an interview with one of the Zeta leaders after he was captured saying the biggest expenditure for cartels is bribery. Cartels spend hundreds of millions of dollars on corrupting people on every level of government. Often they even have cops actively performing kidnappings and murders for them (A ton of prominent cartel guys have had police backgrounds)

Often times major cartel guys get captured and they just have a corrupt judge that orders them to be released (This is happening right now with El Mencho's brother Don Rodo who was captured recently)

 

[volodya]

If you read a few Anabel Hernandez books you see how thoroughly cartels are supported and dependent on government corruption. I remember an interview with one of the Zeta leaders after he was captured saying the biggest expenditure for cartels is bribery. Cartels spend hundreds of millions of dollars on corrupting people on every level of government. Often they even have cops actively performing kidnappings and murders for them (A ton of prominent cartel guys have had police backgrounds)

Often times major cartel guys get captured and they just have a corrupt judge that orders them to be released (This is happening right now with El Mencho's brother Don Rodo who was captured recently)

Wait, they letting Mencho's bro go??

 

[Zer]

Wait, they letting Mencho's bro go??

Yeah a judge just ordered him to be released due to insufficient evidence. He is charged with illegal firearm possession and drug possession, as all this contraband was discovered on his arrest

It sounds like his defence team got a bunch of locals to testify that he was abused while being detained, and a doctor to claim that he has degenerative diseases that mean he can't handle firearms

It wouldn't surprise me if he was abused while being detained but CJNG could also just be bribing/threatening people to testify on his behalf

 

[volodya]

Yeah a judge just ordered him to be released due to insufficient evidence. He is charged with illegal firearm possession and drug possession, as all this contraband was discovered on his arrest

It sounds like his defence team got a bunch of locals to testify that he was abused while being detained, and a doctor to claim that he has degenerative diseases that mean he can't handle firearms

It wouldn't surprise me if he was abused while being detained but CJNG could also just be bribing/threatening people to testify on his behalf

Ahhh...yeah, I can't say it must be fun threatened by CJNG. They are like ISIS level wildness

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Mexico’s president accuses press and volunteer searchers for missing people of ‘necrophilia’​

MEXICO CITY (AP) — The administration of Mexico’s president has accused the press and volunteer searchers who look for the bodies of missing people of “necrophilia,” comments that drew criticism this week.

President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is known for insulting people he views as opponents. But a pre-taped segment prepared by state-run television that was aired Wednesday at his morning press briefing used unusually crude language.

It accused reporters and volunteer searchers of suffering “a delirium of necrophilia” for having reported on a suspected clandestine crematorium on the outskirts of Mexico City.

Authorities have denied that any human remains were found there, and López Obrador has often suggested that any report regarding Mexico’s rampant violence is a politically motivated attack on him. Necrophilia is a term used to describe an erotic attraction for corpses.

The attack appeared aimed at Ceci Flores, who has spent much of the last decade looking for the bodies of her two missing sons without much help from the government. Flores announced the find of the purported crematorium last week; she has long accused the government of ignoring the plight of Mexicans over the country’s more than 100,000 missing people.

“When would you ever imagine a president using all the power of the government to depict a mother searching for her sons as the enemy?” Flores said late Wednesday.



“If anyone is suffering from delirium it is them, they have ‘necrophobia,’ they prefer not to see the dead,” not to see the disappeared and ignore the painful reality,” she said.

López Obrador’s spokesman and his press office did not respond to requests for comment on whether the statement in the video reflected his own personal thinking. But the president has regularly called those who complain of Mexico’s gang-fueled violence “vultures” or people “trying to profit from pain.”

In fact, his administration has spent far more time looking for people falsely listed as missing — who may have returned home without advising authorities — than in searching for grave sites that relatives say they desperately need for closure.

Flores may have been wrong about the clandestine crematorium. She said her team had found bones, clandestine burial pits and ID cards around a charred pit on the southern outskirts of the city. City prosecutors said the bones belonged to dogs and the people whose ID cards had been found there had either discarded them or had them stolen, and were alive.

But such burn-pits and clandestine graves are often used by drug cartels in northern Mexico, where Flores is from, and she and other “searching mothers” have found many such sites and reported them to authorities.

Just this week, prosecutors in Flores’ home state of Sonora confirmed they had identified 45 missing people from among 57 sets of remains at a body dumping ground known as “El Choyudo” that was originally discovered by Flores’ group, The Searching Mothers of Sonora.

The “madres buscadoras” (searching mothers) usually aren’t trying to convict anyone of their relatives’ disappearances. They say they just want to find their remains. Many families say not having definite knowledge of a relative’s fate is worse than it would be to know a loved one was dead.

The Mexican government has spent little time looking for the missing, so the volunteers conduct their own hunts for clandestine graves where cartels hide their victims, often acting on anonymous tips and plunging steel rods into the earth to detect the odor of decay.

At least seven volunteer searchers have been killed in Mexico since 2021.

Rather than any debate about Flores’ track record, the comments Wednesday at the president’s briefing appeared to reflect the president’s angry response to anything he perceives as criticism.

Montserrat Tula, a Mexico City resident, was disturbed by the comments at the president’s news briefing.

“There is no justification under any circumstance to use such disrespectful and insulting language,” Tula said, adding the pre-taped segments at his press briefings “are, for the most part, used to carry out some form of online persecution against anyone doing journalism.”

The necrophilia comments were featured in one of the president’s weekly segments known as “Who’s Who in Lies,” in which a spokeswoman attacks press coverage the president views as unfairly slanted against him. But a large part of the president’s own press briefings almost every day are given over to attacking reporters, accusing them of being part of a conspiracy and even questioning how much they earn.

https://apnews.com/article/mexico-s...-necrophilia-bc097a9cc1a62facc3958a413cef15a2

- This president is so stupidy, that i suspect he is a character wrote by the great Roberto Bolaños to be a villain in Chapolin

 

[LeonardoBjj]

Mexican officials again criticize volunteer searcher after she finds more bodies​

A Mexican volunteer searcher criticized in the past by the government has found more human remains in Mexico City and officials have attacked her for it — again

MEXICO CITY -- A Mexican volunteer searcher criticized in the past by the government has found more human remains in Mexico City and officials have attacked her for it — again.

The existence of clandestine body dumping grounds is sensitive for Mexico’s ruling Morena party. Morena, which is running the former Mexico City mayor for president in Sunday's elections, claims the kind of violence that plagues other parts of the country has been successfully combatted in the capital.

But volunteer searcher Ceci Flores, who has spent years searching for her two missing sons, says that’s because officials haven’t bothered to look for bodies. It's a common complaint by relatives of missing people in many parts of Mexico, where drug cartels and kidnap gangs use shallow pits to dispose of the bodies of their victims.

On Thursday, Flores posted a video showing what appeared to be human femurs and craniums in the tall dry grass of a hillside on the city's east side. She suggested there were at least three bodies, and noted there could be more on the hillside.

“We don't want to disturb them," Flores said in the video, pointing to a pile of bones with her shovel from a distance of several feet. “We don't want to go in and disturb them.”


Flores has sparred with the government before, accusing officials of ignoring the plight of Mexico's more than 100,000 missing people.

In late April, Flores drew the ire of city prosecutors when she claimed she had found charred bones and at least two people's identification cards in another semi-rural area on the city's east side. Prosecutors quickly concluded the bones were from dogs, and that the ID cards had been discarded or stolen and their owners were alive.

Soon after, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador played a government-produced video at his daily press briefing, accusing searchers like Flores of morbidity and claimed they were suffering from “a delirium of necrophilia.”

But by Friday, acting Mexico City prosecutor Ulises Lara was forced to acknowledge that Flores had indeed found bones, and that they were apparently human. Lara said police, forensic experts, National Guard officers and soldiers were dispatched to the scene.

That raised the obvious question of why the vast team of official manpower had never been able to find the bodies, while a lone searching mother armed with only a shovel did.


Lara lashed out at Flores without mentioning her by name, claiming “the chain of custody” of the evidence had been broken and the bones had been “handled.”


“This violated the dignity and respect that people searching for the relatives deserve, and some of them have expressed their discontent with this situation,” Lara said, implying it would have been better not to have found them.

In a video posted on social media Saturday, Flores reacted with disbelief.

“Seriously? These remains were unknown. We did the work they are supposed to do,” Flores said. “You (Lara) didn't even know about them, weren't aware of them, had not located them.”

Regarding the accusation that other searching relatives were angered by her actions — mass searches of the kind Flores carries out in her native Sonora are not common in Mexico City — Flores shot back, “they should be angry at you for not doing your job.”


López Obrador's administration has spent far more time and resources looking for people falsely listed as missing — people who may have returned home without advising authorities — than in searching for grave sites that relatives say they desperately need for closure.

Flores is a very accomplished searcher, and like many mothers of disappeared people, she has a deep sense of mission. One of her sons, Alejandro Guadalupe, disappeared in 2015. Her second son, Marco Antonio, was abducted in 2019. Authorities have told her nothing about the fate of either of them.

In her home state of Sonora, authorities confirmed in April they had identified 45 missing people from among 57 sets of remains at a body dumping ground known as “El Choyudo” that was originally discovered by Flores’ group, The Searching Mothers of Sonora.

The “madres buscadoras” (searching mothers) usually aren’t trying to convict anyone of their relatives’ disappearances. They say they just want to find their remains. Many families say not having definite knowledge of a relative’s fate is worse than it would be to know a loved one was dead.

At least seven volunteer searchers have been killed in Mexico since 2021.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...lunteer-searcher-after-finds-bodies-110744981