MAN OF STEEL Official Thread 3.0 (New Trailer; New Clip of Supes Punching Zod)

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Well done, that would be an amazing ending, but not sure Snyder would even think to go there.

Maybe its his solution to the whole "Superman's only disguise is a pair of glasses that somehow make him completely indistinguishable to his love interest" thing
 
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Update: January 28, 2013

New MAN OF STEEL Images from Empire Magazine


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Pretty excited for this. Hopefully this is a good movie. Would hate to see this Superman failed. Been too long since we seen a good Superman film.
 
Update: January 28, 2013

Fate of JUSTICE LEAGUE Hinges on the Success of MAN OF STEEL


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With a budget of over $200 million, Green Lantern was a flop. The fact that it grossed less than $220 million worldwide was not a good result for Warner Bros. While success was pretty much guaranteed for them with Christopher Nolan's Batman franchise, Green Lantern was the first real risk that the studio took when it comes to their superhero properties. For that reason, it should perhaps comes as no surprise that they are now extremely wary moving forward. While Marvel's The Avengers may have been a $1.5 billion success, they still aren't sure about whether or not they should move ahead with Justice League. Instead, it will be down to how well Man of Steel performs before they make a final decision on the fate of the superhero ensemble. Variety reports:

"Stakes are high for Man of Steel. Other than Nolan's Batpics, Warners has not been able to effectively exploit the DC library. Its 2011 Green Lantern underperformed, and a Justice League film wouldn't likely be in theaters before 2015, as Warner's top brass has indicated that they are awaiting the results of Man of Steel, which opens June 14, before moving further ahead."


Fate of JUSTICE LEAGUE Movie Hinges on the Success of MAN OF STEEL
... and Prod's Faith That JLA Will Happen
 
Update: January 28, 2013

Fate of JUSTICE LEAGUE Hinges on the Success of MAN OF STEEL


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With a budget of over $200 million, Green Lantern was a flop. The fact that it grossed less than $220 million worldwide was not a good result for Warner Bros. While success was pretty much guaranteed for them with Christopher Nolan's Batman franchise, Green Lantern was the first real risk that the studio took when it comes to their superhero properties. For that reason, it should perhaps comes as no surprise that they are now extremely wary moving forward. While Marvel's The Avengers may have been a $1.5 billion success, they still aren't sure about whether or not they should move ahead with Justice League. Instead, it will be down to how well Man of Steel performs before they make a final decision on the fate of the superhero ensemble. Variety reports:

"Stakes are high for Man of Steel. Other than Nolan's Batpics, Warners has not been able to effectively exploit the DC library. Its 2011 Green Lantern underperformed, and a Justice League film wouldn't likely be in theaters before 2015, as Warner's top brass has indicated that they are awaiting the results of Man of Steel, which opens June 14, before moving further ahead."


Fate of JUSTICE LEAGUE Movie Hinges on the Success of MAN OF STEEL
... and Prod's Faith That JLA Will Happen

GL is probably the movie that'll mess up the JL movie.

They were following Marvel's route building the team and failed. I can't believe WB always fails with reboots ie Superman Returns. You would think they would learn from that but it gets even worse with GL.

They can make another sequel to Superman and introduce Wonder Woman. Maybe have a stand alone for Flash with Aquaman thrown in.

Then release Justice League in 2016. But then who's going to play Batman?
 
hmm.............even if the MOS is a success at the box office, JL is still not happening!
 
Update: January 28, 2013

David Goyer Talks MAN OF STEEL, Avoiding Bryan Singer's Mistakes


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Three Gun Fish and J Storm's favorite writer and Man of Steel scribe David Goyer (The Dark Knight) talks about his realistic approach on the new Superman reboot and how the world would react to the character being an extraterrestrial. Goyer also talks about the challenge of making Superman more relatable and believable since he's pretty much indestructible and all-powerful. In an interview with Empire, Goyer avoids Bryan Singer's huge mistake by not trying to copy Richard Donner's outdated Superman films. (via CBM):

"We're approaching Superman as if it weren't a comic book movie, as if it were real. I adore the Donner films. Absolutely adore them. It just struck me that there was an idealist quality to them that may or may not work with today's audience. It just struck me that if Superman really existed in the world, first of all this story would be a story about first contact."

"He's an alien. You can easily imagine a scenario in which we'd be doing a film like E.T., as opposed to him running around in tights. If the world found out he existed, it would be the biggest thing that ever happened in human history. It falls into that idea of trying to humanise the inhuman. He's made out of steel, he's not made out of flesh, metaphorically speaking. We are portraying him as a man, yet he's not a man."

"It is obviously a much longer process with a character like Superman. It is much easier to do a realistic take on Batman. You know nothing can hurt Superman, presumably other than Kryptonite. The challenge was simply: can we figure out a way to make those elements work, quote unquote, in the real world? It's very much a story of a man with two fathers."
 
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hmm.............even if the MOS is a success at the box office, JL is still not happening!

True. I didn't like Avengers because there were too many characters. I like it better when they just focus on 1.

Who'll the JL fight anyways, Darkseid? It'll be a galaxy adventure again and suck like GL.
 
Update: January 28, 2013

David Goyer Talks MAN OF STEEL, Avoiding Bryan Singer's Mistakes


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Three Gun Fish and J Storm's favorite writer and Man of Steel scribe David Goyer (The Dark Knight) talks about his realistic approach on the new Superman reboot and how the world would react to the character being an extraterrestrial. Goyer also talks about the challenge of making Superman more relatable and believable since he's pretty much indestructible and all-powerful. In an interview with Empire, Goyer avoids Bryan Singer's huge mistake by not trying to copy Richard Donner's outdated Superman films. (via CBM):

"We're approaching Superman as if it weren't a comic book movie, as if it were real. I adore the Donner films. Absolutely adore them. It just struck me that there was an idealist quality to them that may or may not work with today's audience. It just struck me that if Superman really existed in the world, first of all this story would be a story about first contact."

"He's an alien. You can easily imagine a scenario in which we'd be doing a film like E.T., as opposed to him running around in tights. If the world found out he existed, it would be the biggest thing that ever happened in human history. It falls into that idea of trying to humanise the inhuman. He's made out of steel, he's not made out of flesh, metaphorically speaking. We are portraying him as a man, yet he's not a man."

"It is obviously a much longer process with a character like Superman. It is much easier to do a realistic take on Batman. You know nothing can hurt Superman, presumably other than Kryptonite. The challenge was simply: can we figure out a way to make those elements work, quote unquote, in the real world? It's very much a story of a man with two fathers."

It sounds like Hellboy.
 
My gawd that would have been a holy mess. Worse than B&R even..
 
Update: January 28, 2013

MAN OF STEEL Executive Producer Lloyd Phillips Passed Away at 63


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Lloyd Phillips, an Academy Award-winning producer, died in Los Angeles on Jan. 25 after suffering a heart attack, his representative said. He was 63. In 32 years in the movie business, Phillips produced films including Inglourious Basterds, The Legend of Zorro and Twelve Monkeys, as well as Zach Snyder's upcoming Superman reboot, Man of Steel.

 
Update: January 28, 2013

David Goyer Talks MAN OF STEEL, Avoiding Bryan Singer's Mistakes


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Three Gun Fish and J Storm's favorite writer and Man of Steel scribe David Goyer (The Dark Knight) talks about his realistic approach on the new Superman reboot and how the world would react to the character being an extraterrestrial. Goyer also talks about the challenge of making Superman more relatable and believable since he's pretty much indestructible and all-powerful. In an interview with Empire, Goyer avoids Bryan Singer's huge mistake by not trying to copy Richard Donner's outdated Superman films. (via CBM):

"We're approaching Superman as if it weren't a comic book movie, as if it were real. I adore the Donner films. Absolutely adore them. It just struck me that there was an idealist quality to them that may or may not work with today's audience. It just struck me that if Superman really existed in the world, first of all this story would be a story about first contact."

"He's an alien. You can easily imagine a scenario in which we'd be doing a film like E.T., as opposed to him running around in tights. If the world found out he existed, it would be the biggest thing that ever happened in human history. It falls into that idea of trying to humanise the inhuman. He's made out of steel, he's not made out of flesh, metaphorically speaking. We are portraying him as a man, yet he's not a man."

"It is obviously a much longer process with a character like Superman. It is much easier to do a realistic take on Batman. You know nothing can hurt Superman, presumably other than Kryptonite. The challenge was simply: can we figure out a way to make those elements work, quote unquote, in the real world? It's very much a story of a man with two fathers."

i want to fight him.
 
Update: January 28, 2013

New Images of Nicolas Cage in Costume for SUPERMAN LIVES


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From Wiki: Kevin Smith pitched Peters his story outline in August 1996 and was allowed to write the screenplay under three conditions. Peters wanted Superman to wear an all-black suit, and also did not want Superman to fly, arguing that Superman would "look like an overgrown Boy Scout." Smith wrote Superman flying as "a red-and-blue blur in flight, creating a sonic boom every time he flew." Peters also wanted Superman to fight a giant spider for the climactic showdown. Smith accepted the terms, realizing that he was being hired to execute a pre-ordained idea.

Peters and Warner Bros. also had Smith write a scene involving Brainiac fighting polar bears at the Fortress of Solitude, and Peters wanted Brainiac to give Lex Luthor a space dog, stating "Chewie's cuddly, man. You could make a toy out of him, so you've got to give me a dog." Peters' additional Star Wars similarities were due to the recent re-release of the original Star Wars trilogy, such as Peters' insistence that Brainiac's robot assistant L-Ron was to be voiced by Dwight Ewell, calling the character, "a gay R2-D2 with attitude." Peters was able to recycle his giant spider idea in Wild Wild West, a film he produced.

Smith's draft (titled Superman Lives) had Brainiac sending Doomsday to kill Superman, as well as blocking out the sun to make Superman powerless, as Superman is fueled by sunlight. Brainiac teams with Lex Luthor, but Superman is resurrected by a Kryptonian robot, The Eradicator. Brainiac wishes to possess The Eradicator and its technology. Powerless, the resurrected Superman is sheathed in armor formed from The Eradicator itself until his powers return, courtesy of sunbeams, and defeats Brainiac. Smith's casting choices included Ben Affleck as Clark Kent / Superman, Linda Fiorentino as Lois Lane, Jack Nicholson as Lex Luthor, Famke Janssen as Mercy, John Mahoney as Perry White, David Hyde Pierce as The Eradicator, Jason Lee as Brainiac and Jason Mewes as Jimmy Olsen.

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Robert Rodriguez was offered the chance to direct, but turned down the offer due to his commitment on The Faculty, despite liking Smith's script. Smith originally suggested Tim Burton to direct his script, and Burton signed on with a pay or play contract of $5 million. Warner Bros. fast tracked production and set the theatrical release date in the summer of 1998, the 60th anniversary of the character's debut in Action Comics. Nicolas Cage, a comic book fan, signed on as Superman with a $20 million pay or play contract, believing he could "re-conceive the character." Peters felt Cage could "convince audiences he [Superman] came from outer space." Burton explained Cage's casting would be "the first time you would believe that nobody could recognize Clark Kent as Superman, he [Cage] could physically change his persona." Kevin Spacey was approached for the role of Lex Luthor, while Tim Allen claimed he was in talks for Brainiac, a role heavily considered for Jim Carrey. Courteney Cox was reported as a casting possibility for Lois Lane, while Smith confirmed Chris Rock was set for Jimmy Olsen. Michael Keaton confirmed his involvement, but when asked if he would be reprising his role as Batman from Burton's Batman films, he would only reply, "Not exactly." Industrial Light & Magic was set for work on special effects.

Filming was originally set to begin in early-1998. In June 1997, Superman Lives entered pre-production, with an art department employed under production designer Rick Heinrichs. Burton decided to hire Wesley Strick to completely rewrite Smith's script. In return, Smith was overtly disappointed: "The studio was happy with what I was doing. Then Tim Burton got involved, and when he signed his pay-or-play deal, he turned around and said he wanted to do his version of Superman. So who is Warner Bros. going back to? The guy who made Clerks, or the guy who made them half a billion dollars on Batman?" When Strick read Smith's script, he was annoyed with the fact that "Superman was accompanied/shadowed by someone/something called The Eradicator." He also felt that "Brainiac's evil plot of launching a disk in space to block out the sun and make Superman powerless was reminiscent of an episode of The Simpsons, with Mr. Burns doing the Brainiac role." However, after reading The Death and Return of Superman, Strick was able to understand some of the elements of Smith's script. Strick's rewrite featured Superman as an existentialist, thinking of himself to be an outsider on Earth. Superman is threatened by Brainiac and Lex Luthor, who later amalgamate into "Lexiac," described by Strick as "a schizo/scary mega-villain." Superman is later resurrected by the power of 'K,' a natural force representing the spirit of Krypton, as he defeats Lexiac.

Art designer Sylvain Despretz claimed the art department was assigned to create something that had little or nothing to do with the Superman comic book, and also explained that Peters "would bring kids in, who would rate the drawings on the wall as if they were evaluating the toy possibilities. It was basically a toy show!" Peters saw a cover of National Geographic, containing a picture of a skull, going to art department workers, telling them he wanted the design for Brainiac's space ship to have the same image. Burton gave Despretz a concept drawing for Brainiac, which Despretz claims was "a cone with a round ball on top, and something that looked like an emaciated skull inside. Imagine you take Merlin's hat, and you stick a fish bowl on top, with a skull in it." Concept artist Rolf Mohr said in an interview he designed a suit for The Eradicator for a planned scene in which it transforms into a flying vehicle.

Burton chose Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania as his primary filming location for Metropolis, while sound stages were reserved but start dates for filming were pushed back. A minor piece of the Krypton set was constructed but then destroyed, and Cage had even attended a costume fitting. The studio was also considering changing the title Superman Lives back to Superman Reborn. Deeming Wesley Strick's script too expensive, Warner Bros. enlisted the help of Dan Gilroy to rewrite it into something more economically feasible. Gilroy lowered the $190 million budget set by Strick's draft to $100 million. However, the studio was still less willing to fast track production, due to financial reasons with other film properties, having Gilroy turn in two drafts. Ultimately, Warner Bros. chose to put the film on hold in April 1998, and Burton left to direct Sleepy Hollow. At this point in production, $30 million was spent, with nothing to show for it. To this day, Burton has depicted the experience of Superman Lives as one of the worst experiences in his life, citing various differences with Peters and the studio, stating, "I basically wasted a year. A year is a long time to be working with somebody that you don't really want to be working with."

Disappointed by the lack of progress on the film's production, aspiring screenwriter/comic book fan Alex Ford was able to have a script of his (titled Superman: The Man of Steel) accepted at the studio's offices in September 1998. Ford pitched his idea for a film series consisting of seven installments, and his approach impressed Warner Bros. and Peters, though he was later given a farewell due to creative differences. On the experience, Ford quoted, "I can tell you they don't know much about comics. Their audience isn't you and me who pay $7.00. It's for the parents who spend $60 on toys and lunchboxes. It is a business, and what's more important, the $150 million at the box office or the $600 million in merchandising?"

With Gilroy's script, Peters offered the director's position to Ralph Zondag, Michael Bay, Shekhar Kapur and Martin Campbell though they all turned down the offer. Brett Ratner turned down the option in favor of The Family Man. Simon West and Stephen Norrington were reportedly top contenders as well. In June 1999, William Wisher Jr. was hired to write a new script, and Nicolas Cage assisted on story elements. Cage dropped out of the project entirely in June 2000, while Wisher turned in a new script in August 2000, reported to have contained similar elements with The Matrix. In October 2000, veteran comic book creator Keith Giffen pitched a 17-page story treatment with Lobo as the main villain, but the studio did not proceed with further involvement. Oliver Stone was then approached to direct Wisher's script, but declined, while in April 2001, Paul Attanasio was hired to completely start on a new script, earning a salary of $1.7 million. Peters offered Will Smith the role of Superman, but the actor turned it down over ethnicity concerns.



Horrible. Just horrible.
 
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