3-D Printing to combat Cornoa medical suppy shortage.

[HankScorpio]

The article is about a patent holder threatening to sue another manufacture of a value for a ventilation system. I don't really want to discuss that although it will be fun to watch the ensuing shit storm.

What I want to talk about is why we aren't ramping up production of this equipment, via 3-D printing and other means, and if a manufacture has a patent why the government doesn't seize it, temporarily. Government can seize property and not give it back, why not intellectal property? Seems a lot cheaper than writing everyone $1000 checks.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-original-manufacturer-threatens-to-sue.shtml

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I've got my Conor suppys stacked up in my Zombie Apocalypse Shed.

 

[PEB]

Yeah I posted this on the main thread.

Italian engineers 3D printed valve's for a hospital because they could not get enough of them. Apparently they are part of a machine that are frequently needed to be replaced.

The valves cost 11,000 dollars each these guys 3D print them for 1 dollar each. They tried to work with the company to pay them for local manufacturing. The reason is massive shortages of the part so now the company is suing them for doing it. Interesting how much this stuff costs.




I'm sure the valves get manufacture under very specific processes by these are peoples lives.

 

[PEB]

The article is about a patent holder threatening to sue another manufacture of a value for a ventilation system. I don't really want to discuss that although it will be fun to watch the ensuing shit storm.

What I want to talk about is why we aren't ramping up production of this equipment, via 3-D printing and other means, and if a manufacture has a patent why the government doesn't seize it, temporarily. Government can seize property and not give it back, why not intellectal property? Seems a lot cheaper than writing everyone $1000 checks.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-original-manufacturer-threatens-to-sue.shtml

Unemployment lines are building up all over the country and small businesses are warning they can only stay closed for 6 to 8 weeks. The money needed to ride out a mess.

 

[HankScorpio]

Yeah I posted this on the main thread.

Italian engineers 3D printed valve's for a hospital because they could not get enough of them. Apparently they are part of a machine that are frequently needed to be replaced.

The valves cost 11,000 dollars each these guys 3D print them for 1 dollar each. They tried to work with the company to pay them for local manufacturing. The reason is massive shortages of the part so now the company is suing them for doing it. Interesting how much this stuff costs.




I'm sure the valves get manufacture under very specific processes by these are peoples lives.

Economically speaking the price is high because demand is low. Under normal conditions they wouldn't be making very many of these and need a high margin. Why on earth they wouldn't increase supply and drop price is beyond me. They could have probably sold it for 11k if they took payment over time. Now that shit is going to get seized by the government.

Yeah a defect rate could be deadly.

 

[HankScorpio]

Unemployment lines are building up all over the country and small businesses are warning they can only stay closed for 6 to 8 weeks. The money needed to ride out a mess.

Lines? Nobody is gathering in groups. I'll assume you mean it metaphorically.

Instead of closing business why aren't we increase production of these machines/parts. That what the whole purpose of shut down everything is, is to stagnate the spread of the virus so our supply chain can catch up. But if these things are easy to create, we've launched into a trillion dollar blunder for a $1 part, in true American fashion.

 

[skysolo]

Unemployment lines are building up all over the country and small businesses are warning they can only stay closed for 6 to 8 weeks. The money needed to ride out a mess.

Almost 2 trillion in invented cash to the market. Bailouts to the casinos, airports and banks first.

Then maybe you can have the change in the ashtray.

No wait, we need that change.

 

[plataoplombo]

Good on those engineers. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

Economically speaking the price is high because demand is low. Under normal conditions they wouldn't be making very many of these and need a high margin. Why on earth they wouldn't increase supply and drop price is beyond me. They could have probably sold it for 11k if they took payment over time. Now that shit is going to get seized by the government.

Yeah a defect rate could be deadly.

It's understandable why they would protect their IP and refuse to provide the schematics- dickish, but understandable. What is unforgivable here is threatening the doctors with a lawsuit for devising their own solution, in a time of dire crisis no less. Not just morally questionable, but a foolish risk to their company's name and reputation.

 

[djacobox372]

It's really insane that we spend 100s of billions stockpiling bullets, bombs, planes, nukes etc. yet we can't spend the little it would take, comparatively, to build a medical supply stockpile.

Only 250k ventilators for a population of 350 million? WTF are we thinking?

 

[HankScorpio]

It's understandable why they would protect their IP and refuse to provide the schematics- dickish, but understandable. What is unforgivable here is threatening the doctors with a lawsuit for devising their own solution, in a time of dire crisis no less. Not just morally questionable, but a foolish risk to their company's name and reputation.

The company could have still made money, really foolish. Hopefully the government just seize the IP. Almost every government can seize actual property under emergence condition, idk IP would be any different.

It's really insane that we spend 100s of billions stockpiling bullets, bombs, planes, nukes etc. yet we can't spend the little it would take, comparatively, to build a medical supply stockpile.

Only 250k ventilators for a population of 350 million? WTF are we thinking?

I don't even think we need to stockpile anything, we have to tools to quickly adjust to nearly any manufacturing. Especially cheap plastic.

 

[Hogey]

It's really insane that we spend 100s of billions stockpiling bullets, bombs, planes, nukes etc. yet we can't spend the little it would take, comparatively, to build a medical supply stockpile.

Only 250k ventilators for a population of 350 million? WTF are we thinking?

because once this over the next worst stage is war and when that happens you will be saying wtf are we thinking we should have invested more in our military.

 

[Gl0kta]

It's understandable why they would protect their IP and refuse to provide the schematics- dickish, but understandable. What is unforgivable here is threatening the doctors with a lawsuit for devising their own solution, in a time of dire crisis no less. Not just morally questionable, but a foolish risk to their company's name and reputation.

Also shows a supreme lack of central planning. If a couple of docs can kick out a few hundred working parts in a day the local industry should be capable of crapping them out by the million.

 

[Deleted member 159002]

I've been wondering if there's a toilet paper machine. Put regular paper in, toilet paper comes out.

 

[blaseblah]

because once this over the next worst stage is war and when that happens you will be saying wtf are we thinking we should have invested more in our military.

We already invest in our military far more than any other country.

 

[ShinkanPo]

I've been wondering if there's a toilet paper machine. Put regular paper in, toilet paper comes out.

Nice

 

[Javelina]

lol, someone posted on fb that the cdc has confirmed that pets don't have/carry the crownvirus. to which, someone posted seeing how the chinese got this from eating pets i'm pretty sure they do.

i'm paraphrasing here