News Andy Foster on Jon Jones "There’s no evidence of re-administration

there were long term metabolites in his system that in and of themselves provide no performance enhancement. again, it's part of why he's allowed to fight.
The whole reason they test for long term metabolites is because they are evidence of taking performance enhancing drugs. If they didn't point to a drug they wouldn't test for it. The reason they are so low is because they slowly leave the body over time, they don't just disappear after x days or hours.
 
No way to prove re-adminstration =/= indisputably no re-administration

lol exactly.

In the pre-fight buildups to Jones/Gus 2, UFC was like "USADA cleared Jones of any wrongdoing" and it's like... no they didn't... they just couldn't prove he did anything wrong.
 
The whole reason they test for long term metabolites is because they are evidence of taking performance enhancing drugs. If they didn't point to a drug they wouldn't test for it. The reason they are so low is because they slowly leave the body over time, they don't just disappear after x days or hours.
um, yeah, that's kinda the point. they can't prove there was any reingestion since his prior suspension. so they can't prove he received any performance enhancing benefits since his suspension.
 
I feel like you’re not making an argument about this specific case
This case isn't special except for the fact that for the first time ever USADA is making excuses for an athlete instead of following procedures and having a hearing where the athlete lays out a defense for mitigating circumstances to reduce punishment.
 
This case isn't special except for the fact that for the first time ever USADA is making excuses for an athlete instead of following procedures and having a hearing where the athlete lays out a defense for mitigating circumstances to reduce punishment.
No the case is different because it’s not about whether or not he’s taken t-boo, it’s about whether he’s still taking t-bol
 
um, yeah, that's kinda the point. they can't prove there was any reingestion since his prior suspension. so they can't prove he received any performance enhancing benefits since his suspension.
It's isn't USADAs job to prove reingestion, it's Jones' job to prove he didn't....at least that's how it supposed to work and has always worked for every other athlete ever tested.
 
Why was the onus on Josh Barnett after he failed multiple tests?
what did barnett fail for and was there any argument that it wasn't the result of reingestion?
 
No way to prove re-adminstration =/= indisputably no re-administration


Thank you.. Read that line 3 times over and everything after and before this line is void...

If you can't test for re-adminstration then how can it be indisputable he didn't do it? Are these guys fucking dumb or don't hear themselves speak LMAO
 
Maybe it's time for some of you to realize that you haven't got it all figured out just yet. It doesn't matter what USADA and all these different people are telling you - you just move the goal post and continue.

Maybe it's time to realize that Jon is innocent.
 
Thank you.. Read that line 3 times over and everything after and before this line is void...

If you can't test for re-adminstration then how can it be indisputable he didn't do it? Are these guys fucking dumb or don't hear themselves speak LMAO
Pretty sure they are just trolling tbh, that or just really dumb.
 
i know that the arbitration agreement called his levels "extremely low" and eichner and fedoruk have indicated similar. so, yeah, i have more reason that not to believe it's low...
So you don't know what is and isn't low like I thought. When they actually release what other drug users that have failed those tests levels were, then we'll know for sure. But just the fact that it can be "low" then go down 1/4th that amount and still be considered "low" for both suggests they're being dishonest about what is and isn't "low".
 
So you don't know what is and isn't low like I thought. When they actually release what other drug users that have failed those tests levels were, then we'll know for sure. But just the fact that it can be "low" then go down 1/4th that amount and still be considered "low" for both suggests they're being dishonest about what is and isn't "low".
and why are they all being dishonest? how are you determining that they aren't all considered low trace amounts and they are being dishonest? it's a ridiculous conclusion. the original arbitration agreement called the levels then (20-80 picograms) extremely low - so how can lower levels not also be extremely low, and how can that call into question whether 20-80 was extremely low? you simply don't like it....
 
Thank you.. Read that line 3 times over and everything after and before this line is void...

If you can't test for re-adminstration then how can it be indisputable he didn't do it? Are these guys fucking dumb or don't hear themselves speak LMAO
most people aren't saying it's indisputable that he didn't do it.
 
Short or medium term metabolites

Have they been testing for these?

Has anyone stated that they did? Using plain English, not just implying they did?

And will Jones be tested more frequently to compensate for the fact he is allowed to have however much of the long term metabolite?

Question to all, not just you.
 
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