Anybody else think Kobe was better than Johnson?

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  1. mommas homeboy

    mommas homeboy Somebody’s Coming

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    I’ve seen a lot of all-time lists online and in some forums that put Johnson above Kobe.

    To me, Kobe was a much better player. He was right there with Jordan and LeBron. He was a much more clutch, more accurate, and more consistent scoring machine than Magic. Johnson may have been a better passer, but that’s about it. He’s part of the Bird, Isiah, Kareem group. A very good player, but not at the absolute top of the heap like a prime Kobe was.
     
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    berimBOWLoh Silver Belt

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    Scoring is the only thing Kobe did better offensively and that was on chucker %s. Magic was far more efficient scorer and when it comes to ball handling, passing, vision and rebounding Magic has a clear edge.


    If you wanna somehow rate Kobe over Magic you need to look at the defensive end.
     
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    What I know is people forgot about Kobe when he retired, for years it was Kobe vs Lebron, now its Lebron better than Jordan.

    Lebron is a better technical and team player than Kobe, Kobe is just a chucker, and ball hog

    This is what I disliked about Kobe, he even said I believe when criticized if you had to do it over again and you were triple teamed would you still shoot the ball or pass it to an open guy he said Id still shoot it every time and then he blames everyone else and got rid of all the guys on the Lakers

    Kobe has the world record for MOST MISSED shots in the NBA I believe

    Magic Johnson is way better, I grew up watching Magic and loved his style of play, fast break down the middle get the hoop to the big man, if Magic career wasn't cut short he would have had more numbers, he played like 10 years got the Aids and then retired.


    MAgic was a 6 foot 8 point guard/SG, he was unique he could move so smooth and fast like a little man but he was big, just enjoyed watching him play as a kid fast down the middle always making guys confused.

    1980 finals Magic played Center





    Id take Jordan, over Kobe, Id take Lebron over Kobe, Id take Magic over Kobe
     
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    If I'm starting a franchise from scratch, I'd take Kobe because of his team-carrying ability and individual brilliance.

    If I've already got good players on my team and need to turn a solid playoff side into a championship contender, I'll pick Magic because of his leadership and unselfish play.

    I do think that Magic is above Kobe on the all-time GOAT rankings.
     
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  5. Corona

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    Tragic played against a bunch of unathletic white guys in boxers and then got aids. Kobe via hilarious ease.
     
  6. TidWell

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    Magic played in a harder era, no flopping, just rough and fast team play, if you took the best players of the 80s and 90s and made a team today they would wipe the floor with these guys, the stamina, finesses, and skills were too much, the game has gotten soft.

    Now you watch the game and guys basically just clear way anytime lebron drives to the basket and they just let him score.
     
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    Magic 3rd best player all time behind Wilt and Kareem.
     
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    Rofl magic played in an era where you can have HIV and still be the most athletic guy on the court and a guy dunking from the free throw line with his tongue sticking out is some kind of athletic milestone. Kobe played against dudes who can windmill from the ft line and dunk over cars. The only reason magic could “guard all 5 positions” is because none of his competition was nearly as athletic. Lmfao at Tragic guarding Juice, snaq or dirk.
     
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    Stopped reading after you said Juice is more technical.
     
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    So Magic was better than MJ? I can see people arguing that Wilt and Kareem were better than MJ but not Magic.
     
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    Magic just paved the way for rich people to beat aids

    Look at that hotel chick Kobe raped in Colorado and tell me she didn't have at least a few diseases
     
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    Magic is easily the better player, both in relative and absolute terms.
     
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    Lmao this Tidwell goof is comedy. Thanks for the laughs.
     
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    Kobe is the second greatest player all time behind MJ imo. He played both sides of the ball, played through all kinds of injuries, and well he's a winner.
     
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    I love Kobe. He's one of my favorite players. But a point guard who fills in for Kareem Abdul Jabbar at center in the NBA finals and carries his team to victory, winning the finals MVP along the way AS A FREAKING ROOKIE????? Kobe has nothing to compete with that. Kobe couldn't even get on the court as a rookie. Even his 2nd year he was more of a role player.

    Plus Magic made his teammates better than Kobe made his.
     
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    The AIDSGOAT is so far ahead of Kobe it is unimaginable that you could even have those thoughts. Kobe is a scorer. Magic was able to play ALL FIVE positions. Magic made every teammate better. Kobe did not.

    Magic was insanely good. Kobe was an insanely good scorer.

    I would build around Magic 100% of the time.
     
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    Kobe was clutch...only in certain times. He was not as efficient as Bird or Magic when it came to scoring. Hell, Bird was way more clutch than Kobe.

    The only thing Kobe had over Magic was a better post game. Kobe was a fucking chucker, and too tunnel visioned to see how much of his ball hog tendencies affected his team.

    The guy couldn't win a ring without Shaq, and for years after he was a sub 30 winner by himself. Pau comes along, and he wins the title two more times. Please, he's one of the most overrated SG in NBA history. His accomplishments on paper speaks better of him than his actual skills.
     
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