Arguments against milk

[El_Jefe]

OMG! I'm just going to not eat anymore. The best way to avoid unnecessary carbs and bad food is just to stop eating. No more food for me!

 

[Sinister]

i like how milk is dangerous because it contains hormones and trace amounts of toxins incorporated in the environment, and yet somehow every other animal product contains hormones and trace amounts of toxins incorporated from the environment.

Also, anyone who believes that plants aren't subject to carrying toxins is plainly delusional.

 

[Jubacat]

Naw man, Brazilian breast milk is where its at.

This is a bit off topic, but when I was living in Brasil, I was told about a fight between two guys, where they beat the crap out of each other... over a bottle of breast milk.

Apparently some people had a thing for drinking it. (this instance was not the only time I heard about people drinking it there)

 

[seanshepard]

my favorite part was the 87% of milk is water so its super expensive water

if its just expensive water, why is it so bad for you?

man, people are paying waaaay too much for pretty much any liquid they buy - its mostly water for christ sakes!

 

[numberthirtytwo]

also... cantaloupes are 90% water. cauliflower is 92% water. totally meaningless. http://www.ca.uky.edu/enri/pubs/enri129.pdf

 

[SAIPULTURA]

Erm i never read it

 

[miaou]

Man this is funny timing. My father sent me an email only a few days ago with a horrible powerpoint presentation saying pretty much the same things. It had a link to this site: Milk Sucks ... Dump Dairy unhappy cows dairy-free vegan vegetarian lactose intolerance milksuckers

I spent a good 15 minutes explaining to him how this is utter bullcrap and how, using scientific-sounding terms and referencing articles to gain validity (articles that have often nothing to do with this website's claims but that most people will never bother reading), completely twists any kind of scientific sane knowledge. He finally realized it is a buch of complete misinformation (at least I hope he did).

I mean, please don't get me started again, there's so many people out there who will see that presentation and believe every single word of it...

 

[Benji Snap]

Also make sure you guys don't eat meat.. It's very unhealthy because of the death hormone located within the meat after the animal is killed.

 

[MASShole]

This is a bit off topic, but when I was living in Brasil, I was told about a fight between two guys, where they beat the crap out of each other... over a bottle of breast milk.

Apparently some people had a thing for drinking it. (this instance was not the only time I heard about people drinking it there)

hahahah, awesome! I was just making a joke about how amazing Brazilian breasts are, in those skimpy bikinis and such.

 

[bobthebuilder]

Naw man, Brazilian breast milk is where its at.

personally I like east asian breast milk

 

[Jaedong]

Ok cool, thanks guys, so I'll keep drinking my milk like a good boy .

 

[mimo]

Cows milk is only good for cows and is why i drink rice milk.

 

[mad-max98]

Vegetarians can go eat some tube steak, just leave us alone you fucks jeeeez!!!

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Got toxins? :-{)

 

[fittafeis]

What do you think about this "article" :


Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.

bullshit detector mildly beeping

1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP - stopped reading

 

[Benji Snap]

Cows milk is only good for cows and is why i drink rice milk.

Rice milk is only good for rice.

 

[XTrainer]

Rice milk is only good for rice.

It seems he would have thought of that before he posted something so ridiculous, huh? :icon_conf

 

[T_Money_]

Rice milk is only good for rice.

Well played.

 

[Metsudragon**]

Cows milk is only good for cows and is why i drink rice milk.

Funny how we can't consume milk produced by the cow but can eat its muscles? You're an idiot, Bro.

 

[DutchMafia]

What do you think about this "article" :


Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.

Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.

Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.

MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS

*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol.

Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).

LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICA
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadc… (1998)

Rank Total Description

1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and
mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the
kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)

(2a and 7a were added for completeness)

(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!)

CANCER FUEL

Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).

IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.

(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)

QUANTITY

Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.

MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)

Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).

Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.

Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at The Dairy Education Board (10/03/99) to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.

IGF-1 INCREASES

This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24 ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming 12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.

FAT

Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.

Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the 54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream, cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives (casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause for their weight and health problem.

CALCIUM

Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.

The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years?

Read more about it at:

The Dairy Education Board (03/07/99) Article on the 78,000 nurse study
The CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE (09/20/98) CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
GOT MILK = GOT BONE DISEASE! WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
NOTMILK File not found recovery Consolidated info

Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium.

Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:

Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794

The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable.

It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much one does not lose.

PROTEIN

Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Opinions, advice ?

Saw this study awhile back...

In conclusion, the results of this study suggest that, chocolate milk, with its high carbohydrate and protein content, may be considered an effective alternative to commercial FR and CR for recovery from exhausting, glycogen-depleting exercise.

http://www.milknewsroom.com/downloads/stager_chocmilk_study.pdf