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That actually I can agree with, Obama should have sent someone else.
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That actually I can agree with, Obama should have sent someone else.
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Even GOP Senators think this impeachment inquiry is a complete waste of time.
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This is why they dont have the votes if this is the smoking gun
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Shokin wasn't doing such a bad job in June 2015.
While there were some accusations that Mr. Shokin was corrupt, the U.S. government seemed satisfied with his performance. Just weeks before the vice president’s visit, a joint task force of U.S. State, Treasury, and Justice Department officials deemed Ukraine’s progress on anti-corruption sufficient to earn it another $1 billion loan guarantee. In addition, Victoria Nuland, then-assistant U.S. secretary of state, wrote to Mr. Shokin in June 2015 that “we have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government.”
While there were some accusations that Mr. Shokin was corrupt, the U.S. government seemed satisfied with his performance. Just weeks before the vice president’s visit, a joint task force of U.S. State, Treasury, and Justice Department officials deemed Ukraine’s progress on anti-corruption sufficient to earn it another $1 billion loan guarantee. In addition, Victoria Nuland, then-assistant U.S. secretary of state, wrote to Mr. Shokin in June 2015 that “we have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government.”
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Post a source when you copy and paste something. Please.
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Can't watch, is there mention of when the House vote will take place?
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I hope this isn’t what you guys are pinning your hopes on. An email, that in all this time since being reported by the NY Post, apparently hasn’t even been confirmed as authentic, which alleges a meeting with Joe, that in all the time he’s been under house investigation, hasn’t been confirmed as ever taking place, let alone revealed any record of what might have been said.
It’s been years since that story was printed. This is still all we have? I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
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Politicians kids have been profiting of their Dads since the beginning of time. A crack head kid of a politician is going to be the worst with it. Junkies are schemers and manipulative. Hunter is guilty of some bullshit but you can’t impeach Hunter. If Ole Man Biden is guilty of profiting off it then impeach him, but as of right now there is no solid evidence just innuendo.
McCarthy got worked into a shoot by the Freedumb Caucus and all the evidence he has shows Hunter is a piece of shit which everybody already knows.
There is a reason the adults from the GOP in the Senate want no part of it because the evidence they have makes the impeachment a political loser.
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Authored by Petr Svab via The Epoch Times FUCKIN' LOL [emphasis mine]
I stopped reading here,
"The centerpiece of the allegations goes back to 2016, when then-Vice President Biden used a $1 billion loan guarantee as leverage to have Ukraine fire prosecutor Victor Shokin, who was investigating Ukrainian energy company Burisma."
But was he though?
UHHHHH NOPE
"While there had been an investigation of the company, Shokin's former deputy, Vitaliy Kasko, has said that it was dormant at the time of Joe Biden's intervention. (The former US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, and the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, George Kent, testified in Trump's impeachment inquiry that Shokin was corrupt; the US and its allies had made a coordinated effort to oust him.)"
You lot constantly fall for these dodgy stories because they feel like they should be true because you want them to be true. Wake the fuck up and see reality, children. You're being duped by people who don't give a fuck about you.
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Why would our bi-partisan Senate Ukraine Caucus want him out?
https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110331/documents/HMKP-116-JU00-20191211-SD1330.pdf
"We similarly urge you to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General's office and judiciary"
And the EU want him out?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190
"The European Union has welcomed the dismissal of Ukraine's scandal-ridden prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption"
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2015/12/9/ukraine-new-government-same-corruption
"Since he was appointed as prosecutor general by Poroshenko in February, Shokin has not brought any cases of corruption to court involving Yanukovich or his partners. Nor has he prosecuted the hundreds of high-level corruption cases that have been brought to his office by Ukraine’s parliamentary committee on preventing and combating corruption."
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an anonymous source is not a source...
its 2023 and these dorks still take zerohedge and epoch times seriously <45>
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So it seems like the typical far right circus posters are really supporting the Impeachment Inquiry process. Fair enough
Then, when it amounts to no evidence and not moving further into the process for some reason they will condemn the process they called for. Call it a sham. Use child like logic to show how being cleared of something actually means they are still guilty.
Imagine advocating for these very specific formal processes over & over again. Then NEVER accepting the results or outcomes after bragging about how they will finally prove your agenda. Its the text book overused definition of insanity.
-Trump will win the 2020 election...Nope he didn't win so now the election process i bragged about was stolen...
-Trump will get the election overturned with all the evidence presented. Release the kraken....Nope, no evidence laughed out of court by conservative judges. Somehow that was a leftist plot.
-Trump stealing and refusing to turn over nuclear classified documents is a nothing burger. There is no evidence or rules. Nope, indicted. Now its a witch hunt.
-Trump wasn't trying to steal the election....Nope. Evidence. Indicted. Now this is also another "witch hunt."
-Not to mention his hush money cases or falsifying financial statements cases.
2 serious questions that the cowards will never answer.
1. Aren't you a little embarrassed or worried about being wrong every step of the way so far?????
2. If you are using 1 impeachment inquiry to keep score or as a slight on Joe B....Why would you ignore the above about Trump? The score is literally like 91 to .5...... At least call the game fair when you're getting your asses kicked.
Then, when it amounts to no evidence and not moving further into the process for some reason they will condemn the process they called for. Call it a sham. Use child like logic to show how being cleared of something actually means they are still guilty.
Imagine advocating for these very specific formal processes over & over again. Then NEVER accepting the results or outcomes after bragging about how they will finally prove your agenda. Its the text book overused definition of insanity.
-Trump will win the 2020 election...Nope he didn't win so now the election process i bragged about was stolen...
-Trump will get the election overturned with all the evidence presented. Release the kraken....Nope, no evidence laughed out of court by conservative judges. Somehow that was a leftist plot.
-Trump stealing and refusing to turn over nuclear classified documents is a nothing burger. There is no evidence or rules. Nope, indicted. Now its a witch hunt.
-Trump wasn't trying to steal the election....Nope. Evidence. Indicted. Now this is also another "witch hunt."
-Not to mention his hush money cases or falsifying financial statements cases.
2 serious questions that the cowards will never answer.
1. Aren't you a little embarrassed or worried about being wrong every step of the way so far?????
2. If you are using 1 impeachment inquiry to keep score or as a slight on Joe B....Why would you ignore the above about Trump? The score is literally like 91 to .5...... At least call the game fair when you're getting your asses kicked.
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it's really sad how easily manipulated these dorks are. They even spell it out in their posts but never connect the dots. They keep saying things like "where there's smoke there's fire". Ok, what is the smoke? The smoke is a bunch of republicans making up shit. That isn't smoke. That's a smoke screen. it's manufactured smoke. And that's just one of the pitiful tactics these dorks fall for every time.
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Typical deflection to Trump.....Do you really think there is nothing underhanded with Biden and his son? Reallly? ANYONE would move forward, the whole thing stinks. Why are people ignoring the IRS whistleblowers? Where did the money come from? Take the politics out of it.....I don't care if you are Dem or Rep, look at the money.....look at Hunter. How could there not be issues here? At this point I think Biden couldn't even handle a trial. He doesn't even know where he is. But stop deflecting...it is possible BOTH sides can be crooked and dishonest. One does not preclude the other.
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So you take a crack head son who gets jobs he is NO WHERE near qualified for with foreign entities, and there is huge amounts of money that can be tracked by the IRS going to multiple family members.....and because you hate Trump and are a political fan boy, you just ignore it? Come on man, Biden is a PROVEN liar. He lied about his education, his intelligence his involvement in civil rights marches---FFS he was REMOVED from an election for plagiarism. If you do not question this, you are a fucking idiot. 1. CRACKHEAD 2. LIAR 3. MONEY......so silly this bi partisan bullshit has become.
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So why the quick change in sentiment from June to November. Remember Shokin just started in Feb of 2015.
- Hunter was in 2014 to Burisma
- 3 months later Joe is designated point -man against Obama's better judgement no less.
-Feb 2015 Shokin is hired and later that year starts prepping case against Burisma.
-June 2015 Nuland states they have been impressed with the anti-corruption progress.
-On Nov. 2, 2015, Hunter Biden received an email from Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky’s adviser, Vadym Pozharskyi, demanding “deliverables” and saying that the “ultimate purpose” was to “close down any cases or pursuits” against Zlochevsky.
- Late Nov Joe threatened to withhold aid if Shokin isn't fired. Which he was.
Unfortunately you stopped reading the article. Again none of this info is new, just ignored.
But if that doesn't raise one's suspicion that something isn't right I don't know what to tell you.
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I don't.
There are lots of contradictory statements which only adds to the confusion.
Now I'm not saying Joe is guilty, but there is a lot of odd happenings that should make people ask questions instead of getting defensive.
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so why is there not vote? why aren't all the GOP house members ready to impeach? The adults realize this is all political theater to appease one person. Having a crackhead piece of shit son isn't impeachable.
