BJ Penns old coach (Parillo) working with RDA

[Cold Front]

Title run/reign for both

BJ Penn
Pulver, Sherk, Stevenson, Florian, Sanchez

RDA
Cerrone 2x, Bendo, Nate, Pettis

Huge BJ fan, but RDA's runs seem better on paper.

+ I think RDA would have been a nightmare match up for BJ
high volume striker, leg kicks and wrestling... geez.

In his heyday, BJ also fought Hughes (x2), GSP (x2), and Machida. Yes, he lost most of those fights, but part of the legend of BJ was how competitive he was against much bigger men.

To put it in perspective, BJ gave GSP a better fight in 2006 than Bisping gave GSP in 2017.

What does RDA have in his fighting history which is comparable to that?

 

[Ares Black]

Lmao rda would make bj cry.

You have literally no idea what you are talking about. Prime BJ Penn was light years better than RDA.

 

[Cold Front]

BJ was damn slow compared to RDA and broke in every fight where the going got tough. He also never learned how to check kicks and you bet your ass he couldn't keep pace with RDA.

In the first ten years of his career, the only times BJ was finished in a fight were the two times he was finished by strikes on the ground. And both times those were to bigger men (GSP and Matt Hughes).

I do agree that BJ was a frontrunner in his fights, even as a champion. But what a frontrunner.

 

[Cold Front]

lol you're delusional... BJ's competition at LW was garbage and he got destroyed by a natural FW 3 times who was ran out of the LW division

Yeah, after 2009.

I don't care who the fighter is, if he sticks around long enough, he'll get beat by inferior fighters. That doesn't make Leon Sphinx, Trevor Berbick, and Larry Holmes greater fighters than Ali.

 

[Cold Front]

Most of you newbies don't understand how you criminally under-appreciate just how good BJ Penn was in his prime.

 

[Deleted member 245586]

Georges St-Pierre and Frankie Edgar are undefeated against Parillo's fighters.

 

[Alanf7]

You have literally no idea what you are talking about. Prime BJ Penn was light years better than RDA.

haaahhahahaahahahhhaha.


Thanks for the laugh. That quitter would just quit again.

 

[rjmbrd]

^^ WTF? RDA when he went on his tear at lightweight was legit the most skilled fighter we've ever seen, Bj Penn has a 500 record.

... and RDA was cartoon knocked out by Stephens, completely out classed by Khabib and then knocked dead in the first round by Alvarez, all in his prime.

I'm a RDA fan and he's both fun to watch and highly skilled, no doubt one of the best lightweights of his generation, but there is nothing to consider him an all time great.

BJ Penn was an all time great in his prime, and fought well past his expiration date. At his best, he was one of the most naturally gifted and highly skilled fighters in the history of the sport.

 

[rjmbrd]

Georges St-Pierre and Frankie Edgar are undefeated against Parillo's fighters.

Georges is pretty close to undefeated in general, if you consider he took back both of his losses in emphatic fashion. I don't think it really mattered who trained Georges opponents in his prime, he was just a full step ahead of the competition.

Theoretically his win over Hendricks was controversial, at best we can call it 'close' but by then Georges had already suffered some substantial injuries and the burnout factor.

While I'm thinking of it, still really burns my ass how the UFC treated Georges after the Hendricks fight. Kicked him in the ass on his way out the door, the guy who was always a consummate professional and company man, that made the UFC tens of millions every fight.

I hope he took home a substantial chunk of PPV money from that Bisping fight.

 

[DanMMAleague]

BJ was damn slow compared to RDA and broke in every fight where the going got tough. He also never learned how to check kicks and you bet your ass he couldn't keep pace with RDA.

If BJ doesn't clip RDA early he's fucked

Did you even watch BJ fight?

GSP said in the Octagon immediately after the second fight he wanted to turn the first round into a wrestling match because he was worried about BJ's hand speed.

He was also much better at checking kicks than most MMA fighters. Better at checking inside leg kicks than outside because of his boxers stance.

 

[Ares Black]

Did you even watch BJ fight?

GSP said in the Octagon immediately after the second fight he wanted to turn the first round into a wrestling match because he was worried about BJ's hand speed.

He was also much better at checking kicks than most MMA fighters. Better at checking inside leg kicks than outside because of his boxers stance.

None of these idiots actually watched him fight.

 

[Andre Xiong]

Title run/reign for both

BJ Penn
Pulver, Sherk, Stevenson, Florian, Sanchez

RDA
Cerrone 2x, Bendo, Nate, Pettis

Huge BJ fan, but RDA's runs seem better on paper.

At the time, Sherk, Stevenson, Florian and even Sanchez were deserving contenders, B.J. just destroyed them.

Also, B.J. had dominated the earlier Lw division so he had two eras where he was able to beat great fighters during different times (from Uno, Din, Gomi era to the “TUF” era).

 

[MaulingMyClown]

RDA is better than BJ was IMO

Curious how old you are? No doubt under 35

 

[Robert Munch!]

 

[BEER]

Motivated BJ Penn was the best fighter we've ever seen. Unfortunately, we only saw him like twice.

 

[ExitLUPin]

On his best day, RDA couldn't handle the 2001-to-2009 BJ Penn on a mediocre day.

Delusional

RDA at his best mops the floor with BJ

Hes not as good a boxer but hes better everywhere else. BJs best best is to land a counter that starches him or begins the end

RDA is one of the best kickers in MMA and BJ always struggled with those

 

[Cold Front]

Delusional

RDA at his best mops the floor with BJ

Hes not as good a boxer but hes better everywhere else. BJs best best is to land a counter that starches him or begins the end

RDA is one of the best kickers in MMA and BJ always struggled with those

When did the BJ Penn of 2001 to 2009 struggle with kicks? Which of the nearly 20 opponents BJ faced in that nine years beat him with kicks?

Like most Newbies to the sport, you project the present back into the past. Since BJ has recently struggled against kicks (and much else - what does the present-day BJ not struggle against?), you figure the BJ of old must've also struggled against kicks.

Legendary BJ struggled against nothing other than cardio and the weight of being a frontrunner.

 

[xentreos]

Title run/reign for both

BJ Penn
Pulver, Sherk, Stevenson, Florian, Sanchez

RDA
Cerrone 2x, Bendo, Nate, Pettis

Huge BJ fan, but RDA's runs seem better on paper.

+ I think RDA would have been a nightmare match up for BJ
high volume striker, leg kicks and wrestling... geez.

Florian> cerrone nate Diaz and Pettis imo.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

^^ WTF? RDA when he went on his tear at lightweight was legit the most skilled fighter we've ever seen, Bj Penn has a 500 record.

You should be booted off this forum for not understanding the legend that is BJ Penn, there's a reason so many people hold him such a high regard. RDA is incredible, but history will most likely look at him as kind of another guy unless he does something at WW (which he won't because he is too small for the class.) Hall of Famer, but not legend status like BJ.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

When did the BJ Penn of 2001 to 2009 struggle with kicks? Which of the nearly 20 opponents BJ faced in that nine years beat him with kicks?

Like most Newbies to the sport, you project the present back into the past. Since BJ has recently struggled against kicks (and much else - what does the present-day BJ not struggle against?), you figure the BJ of old must've also struggled against kicks.

Legendary BJ struggled against nothing other than cardio and the weight of being a frontrunner.

"Like most Newbies to the sport"
Exactly right. People have a tough time understanding it was the wild west era. Everyone looks bad compared to guys now just because the sport has evolved so much.