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What makes you think Golf is niche? Because you don't like it?
There's a reason no UFC fighter is ever going to be a bigger name than Tiger Woods.
***Comparing UFC pay to Golfers***
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What makes you think Golf is niche? Because you don't like it?
There's a reason no UFC fighter is ever going to be a bigger name than Tiger Woods.
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Well duh, golf is more popular than MMA
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It's because MMA has never had someone THAT dominant over the sport and the highest level. Not without controversy at least
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Golf has tones of mainstream blue chip corporate sponsors > which in turn tip the pay scale of golf athletes. UFC has ..... Venum..... Hmmm wut? I mean who knows venum? and what's their revenue copared to FedEx, Coke, etc (major sponsors)
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I personally golf (well not in the last couple of years, because too busy with kids), but only a segment of the population will watch golf
ufc is supposedly the bigger attraction among key demo such as young men 18-50
i'm not comparing top to top, i'm comparing median to median,
top 10 ufc fighters to top 50 on the lpga
if you're ambition is to be bigger than soccer, your talent getting paid less than female golfers doesn't align
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I think that's highly dependent of what country you're in, Anderson Silva is a bigger name in Brazil than Tiger Woods.
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There is a problem comparing sports pay because how many games do basketball, football, and baseball players play in a season while they don't even play 12 out of 12 months of the year? Compared to MMA fighters who some by their own choice fight once or twice a year (and also pick and choose their opponents vs a real tournament bracket). It's also hard to quantify the risk to their health because in the worst cases the problems they could face are problems money can't fix. Give them a billion dollars but that won't reverse their memory loss and speech problems.
I don't know if there is a dollar amount per se but let's say the UFC made an alleged $750M in revenue last year. Between 550 fighters they could pay $1.3M each. Just once. And that is ALL the money the organization made for the WHOLE year. And some of these guys are holding out for several million each fight? Not everyone can be making bank while fighting and that's the hard truth. It's impossible to say right now with the UFC being a private company how much money is coming and going but if what a report in the past showed that they paid out a small percentage of their revenue is true then they should really increase the base pay substantially. But not every fighter can be making several hundred-thousand per fight.
I don't know if there is a dollar amount per se but let's say the UFC made an alleged $750M in revenue last year. Between 550 fighters they could pay $1.3M each. Just once. And that is ALL the money the organization made for the WHOLE year. And some of these guys are holding out for several million each fight? Not everyone can be making bank while fighting and that's the hard truth. It's impossible to say right now with the UFC being a private company how much money is coming and going but if what a report in the past showed that they paid out a small percentage of their revenue is true then they should really increase the base pay substantially. But not every fighter can be making several hundred-thousand per fight.
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you missed the beginning of my OP, i specifically did not compare it to basketball, football and baseball players
i'm comparing it to golfers; both are contractors, pay is not fully guaranteed, if you get cut you don't get paid, sponsorship element (even though ufc does it centrally, golfers are free to negotiate with whoever they want).
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That's sort of an unfair question(to a lot of us). Because truth is, we're MMA fans. We'll watch the sport at it's highest level no matter the promotion. If the fighters were generally getting overpaid, and the promotion was getting screwed, not one of us would care. There'd be zero threads made about that. But that's not the case. Personally, in business, I'll probably always side with the lower man/woman on the totem pole. I think it's atrocious that we find it acceptable to be greedy, selfish, horrible human beings all in the name of "business".Dana and company are straight up crooks, we know this, yet we still watch and love the UFC fights, what does that make us as fans...?
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It's faulty logic as golfers play many more events to get to that number. And along with that, playing so many events to make 150K also means a ton of travel, as well as paying their caddy.
If anything it highlights how much better MMA fighters are paid.
If anything it highlights how much better MMA fighters are paid.
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I agree that MMA fighters get paid peanuts but you didn't even factor in training fees for golfers and other expenses. Then you based your percentages after the fees. As if golfers have zero coaching or other expenses too..
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I assume he meant it's more difficult to get to the top, which is probably true.
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UFC fighters fight 2-3 times per year.
Most PGA golfers plays in between 20-30 tournaments per year.
They're competing 10 times as often. Unfortunately, the economics will never be huge for lower tier professional fighters as they simply are unable to compete as often. There's obviously other factors as well, but it's as simple as that really. If fighters were able to compete 20 times per year, they would all be compensated quite well on an annual income basis, but unfortunately it's not possible in this sport.
Most PGA golfers plays in between 20-30 tournaments per year.
They're competing 10 times as often. Unfortunately, the economics will never be huge for lower tier professional fighters as they simply are unable to compete as often. There's obviously other factors as well, but it's as simple as that really. If fighters were able to compete 20 times per year, they would all be compensated quite well on an annual income basis, but unfortunately it's not possible in this sport.
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It's exponentially more difficult than MMA....
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Golf has 10 times the revenue the UFC has.
They should do theme ppv events like everyone fights wearing golf attire- WWF- outfits etc.
