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This"I want UFC fighters to make more money!"
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"No, not like that!"
This"I want UFC fighters to make more money!"
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"No, not like that!"
Bald fucker tricked meYeah because he’s never lied before lol
Tons of cross over in Japan as well back in the dayThis. Shamrock was a great in ring performer..
Chael's whole shtick was a wrestling persona. Shamrock, Severn and countless others have been in the WWE. Fighters using props like Kimo with the cross early on was a good example of WWE style self promo.
But hey, the sky is falling.
At the end of the day, if the fighters can utilize this opportunity to make more money, so be it.
Yeah, the prowrestling connection is one of the reasons people like us couldn't stand PRIDE, right? I like real sports, not people playing pretend like sakuraba. Real fans know what I mean.fake and lame. just because some MMA fighters did it after their prime, doesn't mean we all want to see lame ass, cross promotion, inevitable, WWE - UFC cards in the future. Some of us enjoy seeing particular skill sets, athleticism, with real ass fucking consequences, that are not pre-determined. we go from a max holloway vicious unbelievable KO to this shit? fuck pro wrestling, fake outcomes, everything else is cool.
Yes, MMA has always had strong links to pro wrestling. But the pro wrestling shit in Pride has people still calling it a fixed organization to this day. It compromised its legitimacy.
The UFC didn't die when they started hosting bumfights in an empty warehouse every week - but the product has become borderline unwatchable for many. The same principle applies here.
MMA is already a semi-joke of a sport infested with pro wrestling personas and matchmaking. Colby Covington repeat title shots make a mockery of the idea of a 'sport'. But it can get worse. Dialling up the WWE shit-dial will do that.
Yes, MMA has always had strong links to pro wrestling. But the pro wrestling shit in Pride has people still calling it a fixed organization to this day. It compromised its legitimacy.
The UFC didn't die when they started hosting bumfights in an empty warehouse every week - but the product has become borderline unwatchable for many. The same principle applies here.
MMA is already a semi-joke of a sport infested with pro wrestling personas and matchmaking. Colby Covington repeat title shots make a mockery of the idea of a 'sport'. But it can get worse. Dialling up the WWE shit-dial will do that.
K. Stop watching. Moving on.
Varelans apparently was offered a BJ by Missy Hyatt if he threw his match with Taz, which he did, only for her to reneg and says she doesn't job jobbers lmaoI loved when Dan Severn came to WWF, I remember a match between Dan Severn and The Rock, and obviously Rock has to look good and win, however at the start of the match Severn took Rock down for real and started wrestling him to death with real takedowns and just stretching him out, it was hilarious. Once he had a few minutes of fun he just let Rock do all the high flying sequence moves to him.
Shamrock was very good in WWF and had the personality for it and the look, he was more on script though in his matches, but Severn you could catch him from time too time just using real proper world class wrestling and throwing them around until he realized he had to stop and make em look good lol.
Mind you it was a good experience for those WWF wrestlers being in there with a guy with over 120 MMA fights and thousands upon thousands of real wrestling matches all over the world.
(I also remember Paul Varelans in ECW a few times, who remembers that?)
Translation: You made a valid point and I've got nothing.
the wrestling morons always state this. PRIDE IS PRO WRASSLING!!!! Bull fucking shit. Pride had promotion, Pride had walk outs, Pride had pageantry, Pride had a level of presentation that just didn't exist in MMA at that time. But where are the fake KOs? The fake submissions? The fake fights? The pre-determined outcomes? GTFO here with that weak ass argument. Just because a MMA promotion decides to show 2% effort in promoting their organization, doesn't mean all of a sudden, MMA fans from the old school days have to support fake ass pro wrestling. The dumbest thoughts all around. Nah, Nope.Yeah, the prowrestling connection is one of the reasons people like us couldn't stand PRIDE, right? I like real sports, not people playing pretend like sakuraba. Real fans know what I mean.
The fixed fights in pride made them call it a fixed organization.
Also, people that put quotation marks around mma as a sport aren't fans and will never be fans.
Reality: I could not care less about your perspective as all you do is whine, while here you're bringing up antiquated points from years ago which I don't agree with and omitting other factors. I have zero desire to engage you.
If you don't like the sport, don't watch. I don't understand why you keep coming to the forum to relay your disdain for the sport. Talk about a waste of time. Again, moving on.
They literally had pro-wrestlers fighting in the org and there are many accounts of fixed fights, several straight up verified. You didn't watch PRIDE, clout chaser.the wrestling morons always state this. PRIDE IS PRO WRASSLING!!!! Bull fucking shit. Pride had promotion, Pride had walk outs, Pride had pageantry, Pride had a level of presentation that just didn't exist in MMA at that time. But where are the fake KOs? The fake submissions? The fake fights? The pre-determined outcomes? GTFO here with that weak ass argument. Just because a MMA promotion decides to show 2% effort in promoting their organization, doesn't mean all of a sudden, MMA fans from the old school days have to support fake ass pro wrestling. The dumbest thoughts all around. Nah, Nope.
dumbest fucking take here. mr edited bullshit account response. fuck fake ass pro wrestling, and dumbasses like you that believe just because PRIDE had theatrics and non-fighters fighting, that we should all bow down to dumbass fake pro wrestling. did you inherit a brain or something? cause you should?They literally had pro-wrestlers fighting in the org and there are many accounts of fixed fights, several straight up verified. You didn't watch PRIDE, clout chaser.
And you weren't talking about fights being fixed, you were talking about an intermingling of prowrestling and real fighting, which was honestly the basis of PRIDE from the start. Did you inherit your account or something? I refuse to believe you've ever even watched a PRIDE dvd.