Dear Haters,Do you consider Conor as the GOAT when he knocks out Khabib?

[NotoriousMillions]

he'll always have a case against him cause of the loss to Nate. it's impossible to deny and it'll always be argued

Yes because going up two weight classes and losing on short notice is comparable to getting KOed by someone two weight classes smaller. Lmao

 

[NotoriousMillions]

MMA absolutely has a merit based pay system. Otherwise how do you explain GSP being the GOAT with GOAT pay (in contention with Silva, who also happened to be neck in neck with GSP in terms of career UFC pay) before Conor showed up?

Boxing is the sport most similar to MMA and Mayweather reigns along at the top of boxing career earnings, and he's absolutely in contention for boxing GOAT.

Conor is basically the MMA equivalent of Floyd Mayweather. At a bare minimum he's disputed GOAT.

Most people would agree Conor is the GOAT. That’s the only confirmation I need!

 

[T. Hope]

Conor hasn’t fought in what? 600+ days? Some GOAT...
He’s a flash in the pan who will be forgotten.

 

[DoopidyDawesome]

Over Jones or DC or GSP or Anderson or Fedor? You'd be a fucking idiot to think he's the GOAT of anything except being inactive and ducking fights, granted, he is probably second best to the GOAT Jones when it comes to snorting coke out of strippers assholes.

 

[benebox]

If he beat Khabib, defends against Tony and moves up to win a third title against GSP he will be GOAT.

 

[imarayda]

No. He needs to fight. He'll never have the longevity to be the goat.

 

[ImLovinIt]

Hmm let's see:

Basketball GOAT: MJ, highest career pay of his generation
Golf GOAT: Tiger Woods, highest career pay of his generation
Tennis GOAT: Nadal (disputed), highest career pay of his generation
UFC GOAT pre-Conor: GSP, highest career pay pre-Conor

The whole point of professional athletics is you get paid based on your performance. Therefore the athlete with the highest career pay is either GOAT or in GOAT conversation.


https://www.businessinsider.com/highest-paid-nfl-players-2015-11

Highest career pay in NFL: Peyton Manning, in GOAT conversation.

Give me an example of a pro sport where an athlete who gets paid significantly more than everyone else in his career is not at least in GOAT conversation. I'll wait.

Goat = greatest of all time. All time. Not just now. Conor can be arguably the best now (although I think DC is). Of all time, gsp, Jones, Fedor, Anderson easily beats conor.

Was Kobe better than Michael Jordan because Kobe was making more money when Jordan was retired? Your argument has holes.

Is Jeremy Lin better than Larry bird because Larry bird makes less money now?

 

[MrJPayne]

Connor is a prize fighter, and he is the undisputed GOAT of the UFC and only second to Floyd in combat sport history at bringing home the prize. His skill set is irrelevant.

 

[Aforo88]

That's not even close to a GOAT resume

1. He won't beat Khabib
2. Compare that with the depth of GSP and Fedor's resumes and if you can still argue that Conor is the GOAT with a straight face, there is something wrong with you.

Goat debate is stupid imo, but I chime in anyway. GOAT to me has to factor in the skills of the game at the time. Mma at the highest level when GSP was goat was todays top 10-15 level of skill imo. The best example of this in an other sport is snowboarding where in the early 2000s the best snowboarders wouldnt stand a chance in todays comps cuz they simply didnt do the high level tricks they do today. Mma is the same. Great strikers back in the day with a dynamic jab was like fish out of water on the ground and vise versa. Today its a whole different ball game in terms of the skill level.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

Hmm let's see:

Basketball GOAT: MJ, highest career pay of his generation
Golf GOAT: Tiger Woods, highest career pay of his generation
Tennis GOAT: Nadal (disputed), highest career pay of his generation
UFC GOAT pre-Conor: GSP, highest career pay pre-Conor

The whole point of professional athletics is you get paid based on your performance. Therefore the athlete with the highest career pay is either GOAT or in GOAT conversation.


https://www.businessinsider.com/highest-paid-nfl-players-2015-11

Highest career pay in NFL: Peyton Manning, in GOAT conversation.

Give me an example of a pro sport where an athlete who gets paid significantly more than everyone else in his career is not at least in GOAT conversation. I'll wait.

Federer $117m, djokovic $114, Nadal $101 career earnings really missed the mark there.

 

[HoFF]

Nah

 

[Hugh G Rection]

GOATs don't get embarrassed by ten days notice Diaz.

No but GSP lost to an old, unranked Serra and Fedor got beat by a blown up MW in Henderson. Both embarrassing but given the nature of MMA understandable.
I don't see why you should hold CM to a different standard though.

 

[LouisBolanos]

Federer $117m, djokovic $114, Nadal $101 career earnings really missed the mark there.

Roger Federer GOAT tennis career pay

-20 grand slam titles - all time record for male tennis players
-ATP no.1 rank for 310 weeks total, 237 consecutive weeks - all time records for male tennis players

Tell me again how the recipient for GOAT pay in tennis isn't in tennis GOAT conversation.

 

[kevinramsdell]

Someone can be goat without 1 title defense? lol the mental stress is to much for Conor which is why we haven’t seen him defend a title once yet.

 

[VVarhead]

LOL what kind of meltdowns are Conor nuthuggers having these days?
Take your hypothetical shit threads and fuck off, Conor hasn't signed a MMA fight in 2 years.

 

[moreorless87]

No, he's along way from that kind of discussion, he would need at least 4-5 LW title defences.

 

[LouisBolanos]

Is Derek Carr better than Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers??

https://www.businessinsider.com/highest-paid-nfl-players-2015-11#1-peyton-manning-qb--2447-million-1

Well he's not better than Peyton Manning.

I never said getting paid more = better, there's way too much middle of the road fluctuation for that to be true. What I said was GOAT pay = GOAT or GOAT conversation.

Now of course, if you go back too far in time you'd have to take inflation and other factors into account, but MMA is a fairly young sport and most of the fighters in the GOAT discussion have overlapping careers that are separated by no more than a few years, so that's not a concern.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

This doesn't make any sense. Because even if you said Mayweather or Ronaldo were the greatest currently, that doesn't make them the best of all time. Ronaldo isn't even the consensus best footballer right now and Mayweather has always had a question mark over his head.

I'm almost convinced you're making a bad argument, that you don't even agree with.

Ronaldo is approaching the end of his career and IS still considered to be the best in the world by many.
If Messi were not around he would be considered the best by most.

Roger Federer GOAT tennis career pay

-20 grand slam titles - all time record for male tennis players
-ATP no.1 rank for 310 weeks total, 237 consecutive weeks - all time records for male tennis players

Tell me again how the recipient for GOAT pay in tennis isn't in tennis GOAT conversation.

I think you're correct for the most part.
There's always exceptions to a general rule.

 

[Strijfy]

MM, GSP, Fedor, AS what do they fighters considered among the "GOATS" all have in common?
They where/ are all long time defending champs...
It takes more than winning a fight or two to become "GOAT".

Spot on ..
Conor will never be GOAT,

 

[brokenjaw]

No but GSP lost to an old, unranked Serra and Fedor got beat by a blown up MW in Henderson. Both embarrassing but given the nature of MMA understandable.
I don't see why you should hold CM to a different standard though.

GSP hasn't lost since and his last fight was in a division he never fought before, against the champ. Fedor went a whole decade before someone actually beat him. Let's see if Conor even fights again before we declare him the greatest thing since internet porn.