Does anyone else think Bryce had a 10-8 in every round?

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2/3 gave Bryce 10-8 for the 2nd and 1 judge for the 3rd as well. Of course it was Sal Damato whos a fucking dumbass who has no idea what hes doing who had it 30-27. But IMO all 3 rounds couldve been 10-8. 2nd and 3rd mostly for grappling dominance Bryce just dominated moved to multiple dominant positions and landed a boatload of GNP. 1st round grappling wasnt as dominant as the other 2 but that was the round he dropped Edson too.
 
Newer judges tend to give out 10-8 according to new guidelines on scoring. Sal is an older judge so he is probably one of those you gotta kill someone to get a 10-8
 
1st is as 10-8 as it gets basically, I'd have given 10-8's across the board but I'm biased as I really dislike how ample and all-encompassing the 10-9 is.
 
If the first round is a 10-8 then they're being handed out too easily.
 
The third definitely was. Second has a case. I didn’t think the first was.
 
He had one, maybe two 10-8 rounds? The first round was easily his but there wasn't enough damage done for it to be a 10-8.
 
I kind of assume the judges won’t give 10-8. So I just kinda go that way as well, unless it’s impossible to deny a 10-8. 10-9 from me usually. And then I either agree with the official scores or not. No big thing.
 
Every round? That's hilarious.

I'm still of the mind that 10-8s should include significant damage and be less dominant position inclined. They should not be given out liberally at all. It puts a guy in too much of a hole in a fight, especially a three round bout. I think it's a crutch for judges who don't even know what they're watching or how to score properly. It gives them even more room fuck up.
 
10-8 all of them.

Significant damage, as some of you are expecting, for 3 rounds = stoppage or death. Think.

A 10-7 is a reason to start thinking about stopping the fight.

This is not the NBA, a big score difference is literally a matter of life and death.
 
10-8s should be the reward for dominating the round and nearly finishing the fight. Basically the ref saw fit to give the nail the benefit of the doubt but the hammer came razor close to finishing it
 
10-8s should be the reward for dominating the round and nearly finishing the fight. Basically the ref saw fit to give the nail the benefit of the doubt but the hammer came razor close to finishing it

So how do you get a 10-7?
 
10-8 plus a point deduction for an infraction.

A 10 – 7 Round in MMA is when a fighter completely overwhelms their opponent in Effective Striking and/or Grappling and stoppage is warranted.” A 10 – 7 round in MMA is a score that judges will rarely give.

{<shrug}
 
The Unified Rules are pretty clear on what a 10-8 is. It just means a dominant showing by one fighter throughout the course of the round. It doesn't have to be dominance throughout the entire 5 minutes, it doesn't have to be absurd amounts of damage, they just have to essentially work to shut out the other fighter's game while working their own. I mean here's the direct text from the handbook, with some relevant bolded sections of my own:

A 10 – 8 Round in MMA is where one fighter wins the round by a large margin. A 10 – 8 round in MMA is not the most common score a judge will render, but it is absolutely essential to the evolution of the sport and the fairness to the fighters that judges understand and effectively utilize the score of 10 – 8. A score of 10 – 8 does not require a fighter to dominate their opponent for 5 minutes of a round. The score of 10 – 8 is utilized by the judge when the judge sees verifiable actions on the part of either fighter. Judges shall ALWAYS give a score of 10 – 8 when the judge has established that one fighter has dominated the action of the round, had duration of the domination and also impacted their opponent with either effective strikes or effective grappling maneuvers that have diminished the abilities of their opponent. Judges must CONSIDER giving the score of 10 – 8 when a fighter shows dominance in the round even though no impactful scoring against the opponent was achieved. MMA is an offensive based sport. No scoring is given for defensive maneuvers. Using smart, tactically sound defensive maneuvers allows the fighter to stay in the fight and to be competitive. Dominance of a round can be seen in striking when the losing fighter continually attempts to defend, with no counters or reaction taken when openings present themselves. Dominance in the grappling phase can be seen by fighters taking DOMINANT POSITIONS in the fight and utilizing those positions to attempt fight ending submissions or attacks. If a fighter has little to no offensive output during a 5 minute round, it should be normal for the judge to consider awarding the losing fighter 8 points instead of 9. Judges must CONSIDER giving the score of 10 – 8 when a fighter IMPACTS their opponent significantly in a round even though they do not dominate the action. Effectiveness in striking or grappling which leads to a diminishing of a fighter’s energy, confidence, abilities and spirit. All of these come as a direct result of negative impact. When a fighter is hurt with strikes, showing a lack of control or ability, these can be defining moments in the fight. If a judge sees that a fighter has been significantly damaged in the round the judge should CONSIDER the score of 10 – 8.

In the absence of dominance in the grappling phase, as set forth in paragraph 3 of the
promulgated rules, to be considered dominate, there must be a singularly or in combination,
some types of submission attempts, strikes, or an overwhelming pace which is measured by
improved or aggressive positional changes that cause the losing fighter to consistently be in a defensive or reactive mode

I went to score the fight thinking I was going to give Bryce a 30-26, maybe at 30-25 at most. But then I thought about how much Barboza's game got shut down and re-read the Unified Rules and realized that there actually is a legitimate case for the 10-8 in every round. Am I 100% sold on it? No, I'm not, because there is some subjectivity to these standards at the end of the day. But I mean what was Edson's best round? Round 1 where he landed 11 significant strikes (most of which were low kicks) before getting cleanly dropped at which point Bryce jumped on him and grinded on him against the fence for three minutes, raining down GnP?

Round 2 was straightforward. Early takedown and basically the entire five minutes of the round spent in control time by Bryce, Barboza only had three total strikes. At best you could say that Mitchell didn't do anything with top position since only 7 of his 78 total strikes during his round were considered "significant" and he didn't attempt any submissions. But that's a stretch. Round 3 was more of the same, frankly.

I picked Edson to win, by the way, before anybody calls me biased.
 
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