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Some judicious help from a super plague to thin the global ranks would do much to change the perspective of both sides of the argument. It really is about time for another proper pandemic.
I'm really not. The left-wing always called right-wingers 'crazy conspiracy theorists' when they said that Europe would eventually be completely flooded with huge amounts of Africans and others. But now we see that the right-wingers were right all along.
Can you understand why Europeans would be opposed to the total demographic transformation of their continent (Europe having an African population of between 150-200 million by 2050)?
By an air plane you dumb fuck.
Thanks for admitting it is possible to keep this flood of migrants out... "even IF Japan wanted you"... Japan DOESN'T want them, therefore it doesn't allow them in. Mission accomplished.
are you angry?
did you see the map that i posted of percentages of how many people live on less than a dollar a day in these very same countries where people are leaving? how many are getting on airplanes if they made $100 all year last year smart guy? shit lol, would you get on "syrian air" at this point lol?
if you think all these migrants can just hop on a plane, then i guess we shouldnt spend money on walls right?
Don't forget the Soros ferry service then ushered through land-bridge Italy.They could, but they wouldn't make it without passport. That's why they pay a ton of money to smugglers so that they can come in illegally.
The job argument is shit because automation will take over, there is also no reason why one should settle for low quality immigrants from 3rd World Shitholes instead of lets say Asians or Eastern Europeans, there is also no reason to take in immigrants with culture and religion not compatible with Western (now dying) culture. Lastly there is no reason to take in military aged men, that will do nothing for the demographics of the country, the whole thing will only result in sexual frustration.
That is why the right calls the left cucks, because you want males from another tribe to come into your country so you could share your females with them (<-- metaphorically speaking of course).
They could, but they wouldn't make it without passport. That's why they pay a ton of money to smugglers so that they can come in illegally.
when their population starts aging, we'll see.
this is that outgroup homogeneity issue again. youre making the assumption that i like diversity for the sake of diversity. india is developing. its like the USA right around 1900. we had overcrowded shitty cities then too. this is a process all countries go through.
japan's leaders have literally said that economic growth is no longer a national goal lol. they are seeking to maintain, and thats basically it.
south america is already ultra diverse.
most people in africa/syria etc cannot get to south america even if they wanted to.
have you seen tokyo? where would these immigrants go?
england's population density is not comparable.
and again......im not suggesting that places like england open the floodgates. im saying that they should take people they need.
lol. you're being F'ing silly again. how much is airfare?
thats a part of it, but also proximity. if japan were located where europe is, theyd have a much tougher time of it. it goes back to that mobility issue. most desperate migrants of the middle east, africa, and south america cannot F'ing walk or float to japan lol. you'd think this would be obvious, but i guess not.
brain drain is also near inevitable. im not opposed to letting in a few albert einstein's from india and africa. if you want to keep them out because you feel so strongly for the countries that they leave behind, be my guest.
what about now....NOW? italy's population is literally going backwards lol. their death rate exceeds their birth rate. they need people working NOW.
japan has tried propaganda, incentives, threats, begging......but none of it will change that basic math that i posted in the previous post. people....will.....not....make.....more.....babies.....against....their....own....personal....interests. denmark will never again exceed a fertility rate of 2. never. you can turn them into amish zealots and ban condoms, and it will not happen.
no. i explained it to you. its very simple.
more agricultural economy = kids are an asset.
right. the same thing happened in every other country initially. when you make that jump from rural agriculture to urban industry, it takes people one generation to realize......"holy shit. i shouldnt have 10 kids. theyre expensive as hell now. they cannot feed themselves on my farm. now I have to buy all of their food. now they have to go to school. school costs money. holy shit."
no lol. average cost of raising a kid in the USA is now estimated at $200k +. how much do you think it is in senegal? stop being silly.
lmao. see above.
this is a luxury that most people cannot afford in an industrialized economy. you may want your country to go back to 1950, but it cant, and it wont. its just math.
yet, you cannot explain how traditional values will suddenly make people overlook the fact that a child now costs 200k in the USA.
you cannot explain how people in developed countries notice the fact that they have pensions and reitrement plans, not needing to rely on 8 kids to care for them. you cannot explain how traditional values will make many people in tokyo realize that they live in an apartment the size of a closet (literally), and cannot house 3 kids. shit......1 kid.
immigrants try to move to places nicer than their country, as they always have. job opportunities. safety. no one from sengal wants to go to india. people are leaving india to go to other places. net out migration for a reason.
are you stupid or what? most countries with LOTS of people leaving are coming from the middle east and africa. you can literally float on a piece of foam across these bodies of water and probably live. you can hitchhike and ride from algeria to croatia and not even see the water. can you get to japan from senegal if you made $100 as your salary last year? gtfo.
new yorkers in 1890 felt the same way about the irish. the horror. all of those drunk anarchist terrorists. how did they ever survive?
im pointing out that cultures always change, and evidently, in a wide variety of ways with wide ranging outcomes.
they took the place over and created the yuan dynasty.
most chinese today have mongol blood in them
yea it does. look at a map before ww2, and after ww2 in europe. nation states before.....multiethnic after.
you can contain it and slow it.
the notion that youre going to maintain some pure culture (that doesnt exist and never has) though, is silly.
japan has tried propaganda, incentives, threats, begging......but none of it will change that basic math that i posted in the previous post. people....will.....not....make.....more.....babies.....against....their....own....personal....interests. denmark will never again exceed a fertility rate of 2. never. you can turn them into amish zealots and ban condoms, and it will not happen.
It's not. But some people are fearful so they feel the need to put their fears into words.Why is this important?
There will be wars long before it happens. Some of the current EU countries will be torn apart, and multiple muslim countries will be formed in western parts of Europe. At some point, the push will meet the shove and it is really hard to predict how it all turns out.
What say I? Increased trade and economic opportunity.
I say over and over again - people cannot realistically expect to operate economically between 2 countries and still attempt to shut down the transfer of people.
If a country wants to isolate, it has to be both socially and economically.