Even if Khabib were to beat Tony that still doesn't solidify him as GOAT

[kl00p]

shut up contard

 

[DeathStroke]

he needs like 10+ title defences to be considered as a goat

This. What makes Andy, GSP, and Jones so unique (Fedor as well) is that they were dominant for years. Khabib is very very good. But to be the GOAT he needs to stay very very good for many more years.

 

[tekkenfan]

Only the fact that Khabib would have beaten a D1 NCAA wrestler.

lots of d1 guys arnt great mma wrestlers like bjj theirs many styles and certain styles dont work for mma well tyron woodley for instance only has 2 techniques in mma a double leg and front headlock besides that he isnt a great mma wrestler

 

[Skarsgard]

He could do all of that and you'd find some new criteria. That's how this shit works and why GOAT is completely subjective and silly.

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

The Lightweight GOAT? He most certainly would be.

But the GOAT GOAT? Yeah, he'd still have a ways to go before earning that.

 

[Sansnom]

He still needs to fight a wrestler to prove himself as legit. He is only on his 2nd defense and is talking about retiring soon. No. He needs to fight Tony, Justin or GSP and then rematch Conor. Then we can start putting him in GOAT talks.

What's with the Conor rematch?

Conor isn't even a top 10 LW at this point ffs. He's 1-1 in that division. And Khabib already molested him. So why in the world would he need to rematch him?

If he beats Ferguson, then yes, he is the GOAT LW. P4P GOAT, no.

 

[TapMachine]

lots of d1 guys arnt great mma wrestlers like bjj theirs many styles and certain styles dont work for mma well tyron woodley for instance only has 2 techniques in mma a double leg and front headlock besides that he isnt a great mma wrestler

Not arguing what you said, but if Khabib were to beat Justin, he would have technically beaten a D1 wrestler.

 

[TheAmericanCrack]

Khabib has 4 wins over BJJ black belts (Tibau, Tavares, Poirier, RDA)

He also has 6 wins over fighters with a wrestling background (Tibau, Trujillo, Healy, Johnson, Iaquinta, Shalorus).

Of course, he hasn't fought anyone with a high level college wrestling background because NONE of them are near a title shot rn, the closest is Gaethje.

Those guys you just listed aren't top high level wrestlers and don't use wrestling as a main tool in their fights. None of those BJJ black belts are davi ramos or brian ortega level.

 

[Sleepdancer]

Goat is not an official thing..

 

[bluntmaster6]

Khabib himself said that title defences define legacy, but Khabib isnt trying to become the Middleweight GOAT so he'll probably crush everyone at Lightweight

 

[toutadixballes]

That's your fifth thread trying to disminish Khabib accomplishements, you're desperate TS.

As a Khabib fan, I really enjoy this, thank you.

 

[BooBoyMan]

None of those BJJ black belts are davi ramos or brian ortega level.

Islam just outclassed Ramos and you're talking about him lol? Khabib would be a big favorite over both of those guys, especially Ortega.

As for the wrestlers, Tibau has the 2nd most TDs in UFC history. He's a high level wrestler, you're right on the other guys though.

 

[snackgod]

He still needs to fight a wrestler to prove himself as legit. He is only on his 2nd defense and is talking about retiring soon. No. He needs to fight Tony, Justin or GSP and then rematch Conor. Then we can start putting him in GOAT talks.

so what you need kevin lee to fight khabib to give him respect. when khabib fight justin people will say he not realyl a wreslter any more so it doesnt count. people will say tony not a wrestler so that doesnt count.

the gsp fight not happening so people will always bring that up but dont go blame gsp for it not happening.

 

[TheJohnnyWalkerEra]

Lol I'll be using this

 

[snackgod]

He also needs to beat a wrestler. Justin or GSP.

so 50-43 vs al doesnt count. al was a ncaa all american what more of a high level wrestler do you need. it not like there a bunch of ncaa gold medel winning coming to the ufc to fight khabib.

 

[TheAmericanCrack]

Islam just outclassed Ramos and you're talking about him lol? Khabib would be a big favorite over both of those guys, especially Ortega.

As for the wrestlers, Tibau has the 2nd most TDs in UFC history. He's a high level wrestler, you're right on the other guys though.

What are you talking about? Islam dropped ramos which had him rocked. Islam wanted no part of him on the ground which explains why Islam didn't try to take him down the whole fight.

Tibau definitely beat Khabib if you look back at the fight. Khabib couldn't land a single takedown. He potentially got exposed there but we look past it because Khabib was younger.

 

[Jimmy jump]

He still needs to fight a wrestler to prove himself as legit. He is only on his 2nd defense and is talking about retiring soon. No. He needs to fight Tony, Justin or GSP and then rematch Conor. Then we can start putting him in GOAT talks.

Whoever wins the fight between him and Tony is the GOAT LW without a doubt and arguably the best ever because LW has always been the most stacked division and going on a 13 fight win streak in that division against the fighters they have beaten would be unrivalled.

Silva was a roider
Jones is a roider
GSP tapped to a LW and fought one dimensional bums and was likely on roids too.

 

[Arqueto]

Lol I'll be using this

Go ahead bro. I made that one a good while ago.

 

[snackgod]

Not at the moment. Hasn't even fought the top guy in his division, Ferguson. But beating him , St Pierre , rematch Mcgregor and a possible Champ vs Champ later on at 170... No doubt the guy will be talked about for years... like the Russian GOAT, Fedor.

so it khabib fault that tony lost to a power cord or turned down the max fight and didnt fight sat.

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

He still needs to fight a wrestler to prove himself as legit. He is only on his 2nd defense and is talking about retiring soon. No. He needs to fight Tony, Justin or GSP and then rematch Conor. Then we can start putting him in GOAT talks.

Your an idiot for saying he needs to rematch Conor.