Fedor's boxing

[MeBig]

All I have to say is:

and....

 

[MeBig]

and....

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[Sinister]

mma is as old as boxing but just recently came back in to popularity.

Not quite, there is archaeological evidence to the contrary.

 

[FreshPrince]

OOOH I want to try!

 

[anubismcdeath]

OOOH I want to try!

Gahhhh my eyes.......Lesner , say it ain't so? That was almost as gay as Regal smooching Vince McMahons bunghole.

 

[MeBig]

let's throw another one in there to illustrate how mma is not trying to be boxing:

 

[MeBig]

Because it's not. Seriously.

 

[Iosephus]

don't forget TUF-wear

 

[bradlee180]

Yeah, when the UFC began, it was more like REAL fighting, but then they introduced gloves, rounds, time limits, weight-classes, weigh-ins, etc, and now the UFC world-class grapplers are electing to stand and ultimate box in the cage, electing not to grapple because the UFC fans boo them too much when they do...

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[MeBig]

...... the 10 point must scoring, trunks instead of spandex tights, boxing cutmen, ring card girls, knockout of the night/fight of the night stand-up incentive,

 

[Iosephus]

there's no standup incentive bro, if there was, tyson griffin would be out about half a mil

 

[Dead_01**]

Fedor is a world class striker with heavy hands and knock out power. He's a high level kickboxer and an elite boxer.


That's what Joe Rogan would say.

 

[Apokalips]

Fedor is not a boxer, his standup may look funny but it works for him. He's not gonna be fighting in a boxing match anytime soon so there's really no point to critiquing his boxing, it would be as silly as critiquing Mayweather's wrestling.

 

[suizuri]

In Boxing, 201 lbs or more (unlimited upper end) is Heavyweight.

In Boxing, the Cruiserweight limit is 200 lbs which means some of these guys sweat off water to make weight, but are well above 200 lbs the next night for the fight.

Those 2 weight classes combined have about 2 thousand licensed professional fighters.

How can you say with certainty that Fedor could beat all 2 thousand of these professional fighters without suffering a single setback simply because the fight took place in a cage RE: "there isn't a boxer in the world that could last a single round against him in an MMA fight."

Fedor would be fighting legitimate world-class strikers, not grappling masters with relatively mediocre standup skills that they added later.
With a few notable exceptions like Machida or Anderson Silva, such is the case for most MMA fighters: outstanding grapplers with comparatively inadequate standup.
Their standup is not close to the level of their grappling.
Their standup is not close to the level of world-class strikers.

What if Fedor got caught by the first devastating punch of an old boxer who really knows how to punch like David Tua for instance?

The next lightest weight class in Boxing is Light-Heavyweight 175 lbs, but a Light-Heavy like 40 year old Antonio Tarver stands 6'2" and walks around at about 210 lbs or so between fights. There's over 700 professional Light-Heavyweights; maybe one of those guys could pull a surprise against Fedor too.


I think 6', 205 lb Vitor Belfort, primarily a boxer in style, would KO Fedor.
I made a thread about this last January.

The fight actually almost happened in August when Belfort accepted the fight on 10 days notice after Barnett failed the drug test.
Belfort was in shape as he was scheduled to fight on the undercard, but he was the first choice as a replacement for Barnett, and Belfort accepted the fight in a heartbeat. He had expressed interest in fighting Fedor earlier that year too.
In August, Dana White had already expressed interest in bringing in Belfort to the UFC as an opponent for Anderson Silva. Anderson really doesn't want the Belfort fight either.

Fans underestimate and write off Belfort, but the fighters don't.
The fighters recognize the serious danger this guy represents, and Belfort running hot-and-cold simply adds to the drama.

He'll never be as good a fighter as Fedor, he'll never have the legacy, but I've long thought he's a terrible style matchup for Fedor.
Fedor destroys big slow guys, but he's never fought a guy faster than himself with KO power in his hands like the explosive Brazilian southpaw.


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Dude, Belfort is good when he's good, but he's so bad when his weakness are capitalized on. The "what if Fedor gets caught? by elite strikers" is actually way less improbable than the "what if Vitor gets beat?".

And on the chance of the hundreds of boxers from whom one could catch Fedor, anyone can always speculate and dream about it (like you did). However, an MMA match where Fedor is the shit, where a lot of things are different from boxing, is not a venue for that dream.

 

[Steakeater**]

Dude, Belfort is good when he's good, but he's so bad when his weakness are capitalized on. The "what if Fedor gets caught? by elite strikers" is actually way less improbable than the "what if Vitor gets beat?".

And on the chance of the hundreds of boxers from whom one could catch Fedor, anyone can always speculate and dream about it (like you did). However, an MMA match where Fedor is the shit, where a lot of things are different from boxing, is not a venue for that dream.

Bas - "Fedor should still be a bit careful though, Fujita has been working heavily on his boxing with his coach Takeshi something"



then BOOM, catches Fedor with a counter. lol

doubt Rogers gonna do it though. I love Fedor too much

 

[suizuri]

Combining the Heavyweight and Cruiserweight divisions in pro boxing, there's about 2 thousand men.

Under MMA rules, maybe a few of them could pull a Ray Mercer on Fedor...
He's used to fighting grapplers with comparatively mediocre striking abilities relative to their grappling prowess.

Who's to say what a world-class striker in his prime could do in MMA, we haven't even seen a world-class striker in his prime in MMA yet...

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will you cut the "fighting grapplers with mediocre striking abilities" BS? Tell me what you think of Crocop, Goodridge, Hunt, Tim and AA then. There are world-class strikers in MMA, but they also throw kicks and kness. Not many of them have become p4p top 10 or 15, and its because striking alone is just as incomplete as grappling alone in MMA.

 

[Steakeater**]

will you cut the "fighting grapplers with mediocre striking abilities" BS? Tell me what you think of Crocop, Goodridge, Hunt, Tim and AA then. There are world-class strikers in MMA, but they also throw kicks and kness. Not many of them have become p4p top 10 or 15, and its because striking alone is just as incomplete as grappling alone in MMA.

lol Goodridge and Tim world class strikers? I agree that good in boxing or kickboxing =/ good in mma, but theres still a handfull of the top that can make the right adaptations

 

[MeBig]

good in boxing = great in mma

 

[Steakeater**]

good in boxing = great in mma

I'll agree when I see Winky KO everyone with right handed jabs

 

[uppercuts21]

good in boxing = great in mma

Good boxing = Excellent in MMA.

Just look at Aleks Emelianenko who MMA fans think has phenomenal boxing. He gets thrown in against some amateur making his pro debut and Aleks got worked and looked like an idiot.