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Consider it yours, friend. You may have the thread back@sub_thug
@IngaVovchanchyn
@Jack V Savage
I just read just last two and a half pages.
I believe I deserve restitution.
Consider it yours, friend. You may have the thread back@sub_thug
@IngaVovchanchyn
@Jack V Savage
I just read just last two and a half pages.
I believe I deserve restitution.
@sub_thug
@IngaVovchanchyn
@Jack V Savage
I just read just last two and a half pages.
I believe I deserve restitution.
This entire exchange is why you got a, "Derp." post from me yesterday. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, and YOUR hubris has blinded you. If you think there's a liberal bias in mainstream media, then you're a complete moron and a jackass. Stick to being a thug for corporations. It's all you're good for.I completely agree. That's why I told him earlier on that he needs to put his ego aside. Hubris has caused the fall of many better than him, but that's just the way it goes sometimes. I hope that he can figure out a way to get past it. He's a sharp guy and an otherwise gentleman when he's not being too proud to admit that someone else has a point, but when he decides to bring out that quality, it's not good for him or anyone else.
This entire exchange is why you got a, "Derp." post from me yesterday. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, and YOUR hubris has blinded you. If you think there's a liberal bias in mainstream media, then you're a complete moron and a jackass. Stick to being a thug for corporations. It's all you're good for.
Plenty on here willing, but as far as ability goes...The whole thing definitely illustrates the benefits of just responding to derpery with "derp." I still like to hash it out for the benefit of everyone else and to sharpen my own thinking, but you need a willing and able dance partner.
Ah, the fool speaks! Glad to see you're doing well and here to school me up with some of that folksy Kansas wisdom. Banned from using the Rob Ford gifs, are we?This entire exchange is why you got a, "Derp." post from me yesterday. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, and YOUR hubris has blinded you. If you think there's a liberal bias in mainstream media, then you're a complete moron and a jackass. Stick to being a thug for corporations. It's all you're good for.
Ah, the fool speaks! Glad to see you're doing well and here to school me up with some of that folksy Kansas wisdom. Banned from using the Rob Ford gifs, are we?
You know, you're an interesting case study in how people adjust to their political environments. If you were to move to Argentina, you would, over time, adopt the viewpoints and attitudes of the Argentinians. It's normally like that wherever you go for all people, and this is pretty well-studied. Occasionally, you will find that people react completely the opposite of how you might expect them to, and I have a theory why. I believe that it really stems from a lack of community that person feels in the area, so when people hold views that are completely counter to their environment, say someone who is hyper-liberal in the middle of Kansas, it could be that those views are actually products born out of resentment for the community than what that person might actually believe on their own. Think my theory holds water?
And perhaps I struck a little too close to home. I seem to be doing a lot of that today.
Nice.
And that is exactly my point with Jack when he says 'give me proof'.
What is the point when I know regardless of proof and how much support there is, even if overwhelming he will stand by his opinion as correct regardless. And he has every right to. On matters of opinion 1 person (Jack) can be at odds with all other 7B on the planet and say they stand behind their opinion and that is ok.
But others then need to step away from that person because while it is entirely possible they are the ones right and EVERYONE ELSE is wrong, it certainly is not likely. When you have a guy in the room who always says no matter the weight of the countervailing opinions that 'everyone is wrong but me' you have to accept that person might have such a strong ideological bent or bias that they simply cannot separate themselves from it and analyse things without that bias. I mean the CNN poll linked could not be more clear. Remove the ones who had no view as they don't watch it and its as close to a consensus as you are ever likely to get. And I am sure Jacks response to it 'I am right, all those other people are wrong'.
Funny that Jack accuses @IngaVovchanchyn of that type of bias when I have not seen that from her but i have always seen that from him.
The funny thing about the whole "CNN is biased towards Trump" thing, is that @Jack V Savage himself used to deny ever saying it.
What happened was that he originally stated that CNN favored Trump during the election in some random thread. This was shortly after the election, and I'm sure it was said out of frustration and devastation over Hillary losing, and his world view coming crashing down on him. He didn't actually believe it though.
I mean just look at trumps actions then see his delusional fanbase that rationalizes everything he does.
Remember Trump's line about shooting somebody in the street and not losing any votes?
Look at all his Fake News bullshit.....Most people believe that all Mainstream news is 100% fake now.
I honestly think, Trump can come out tomorrow, say that the deep state is controlling America and we need an armed revolution....and his supporters will do it....and even military commanders will follow him....eventually he will have total control of the government with a huge portion of citizens supporting him.
So I don't understand liberals.......Trump is the biggest reason to have an AR-15.
Ah, the fool speaks! Glad to see you're doing well and here to school me up with some of that folksy Kansas wisdom. Banned from using the Rob Ford gifs, are we?
^This...
Now, you're just stamping your foot like a child instead of accepting defeat graciously.
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^and this.Jack' s fallen prey to a vice that makes fools out of the wise: pride. But no, anyone and everyone who disagrees with him must be biased and tribal, but not him.
<Lmaoo>
Never change, Jack.
You state you think you are the least partisan person on this forum and yet many see you as arguably the most. You are fine stating your position on Inga and others as proven and if they disagree and say what you are offering is not the proof you say it is you dismiss it but when others give their view on you, you dismiss it as wrong.
The humor is that the gross mischaracterization of my views is precisely the sort of logical fallacy that any number of posters might jump on, and rightly so. The ironies today have been pouring through, somewhat unexpectedly. I’m noticing a major trend across a number of WR posters lately where bitterness is becoming significantly more pronounced. I called a few folks out on it the other day (accusing all conservatives of acting in a purposefully evil manner instead of acting with well-meaning but different manner), but it feels like it’s a matter of trying to save a sinking ship with nothing more than a bucket. I’m starting to really believe that things aren’t going to get better.^This
^and this.
Sorry Jack but even as something as simple as that CNN poll and the general acceptance by almost all talking head pundits that the MSM media tends left of centre you dig in and say 'everyone in the world is wrong but me' and there is no evidence any one can show, no amount of poll data showing you stand nearly alone that will change your mind.
You state you think you are the least partisan person on this forum and yet many see you as arguably the most. You are fine stating your position on Inga and others as proven and if they disagree and say what you are offering is not the proof you say it is you dismiss it but when others give their view on you, you dismiss it as wrong. you want us to accept that you must be right in both instance, because it is you. Sorry but your entire argumentation style is that of a political partisan such that we've seen evolve to deal with the MSM in the last decade. Just simply state your view as if fact. Dismiss other views as if not correct. And let no amount of evidence (poll on MSM) sway you because if it counters your view, say they are all wrong and go back to point 1.
The humor is that the gross mischaracterization of my views is precisely the sort of logical fallacy that any number of posters might jump on, and rightly so.
Haha, no that is you Jack.It doesn't even apply to the discussion, does it? My claim is that partisanship is shown when someone abandons their principles in defense of politicians, the way Inga does. Sub Thug is just defining it as holding a position that one party disagrees with (the clear implication of the claims made in this thread is that only partisanship can explain a failure to accept the absurd liberal media CT). But I think we can both agree that that is a poor definition. So where's an example of me ever showing real partisanship?
It's like your position in the Peterson thread. It's not simply that you think you're right because XYZ, and someone else thinks that they are right because ABC; you're insisting that no one can possibly disagree with you, and yet none of the people making the claim can actually defend it reasonably.
Does it matter if he spends time to show which of his views he says you have mischaracterized or call strawman or is it a futile exercise like you asking for 'proof' when we know you will dismiss all truth.What views of yours do you feel were mischaracterized?
What I'm seeing is that you responded to respectful disagreement with childish personal attacks, and now you're trying to climb on your high horse.