Jon Jones 2nd drug test failure, backed by research

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Yet so many believe his bs story. The guy is a coward and will never be seen as the best. He is a roid head and always will be. He could not have done it without roids. Yes he is talented but without those enhancements he would not be at the top.
 
Only when I was selling fake mushrooms to hippies at a Grateful Dead concert back in 1994, otherwise I've always been honest about my drugs.
at least that, you're already better than Jon
 
USADA do failure after failure, and they get money from UFC.
They're incompetent, unreliable and biased
UFC made the choice to pay USADA to bust people
Then the UFC paid USADA to let fighters off the hook

Hustling backwards
 
44 athletes tested positive for 2008. Of the 44 they got 14 bronze 13 silver 3 gold
Strangely 44 athletes again test positive for 2012. Of the 44 they got 6 bronze 9 silver 3 gold.

But all of them passed their original tests in 2008 and 2012 and only failed when their samples were retested in 2016 and 2017 which suggests that the testing methods in 2016 and 2017 were better at detecting it.

So your hypothesis that he was using it the whole time from 2015-2017 would appear to be wrong as he'd have been caught in 2016 because if the test they were using at that time was capable of getting it from blood taken in 2008 and 2012 it would have found it in his blood tests too.
 
But all of them passed their original tests in 2008 and 2012 and failed when their samples were retested in 2016 and 2017 which suggests that the testing methods in 2016 and 2017 were better at detecting it.

So your hypothesis that he was using it the whole time from 2015-2017 would appear to be wrong as he'd have been caught in 2016 because if the test they were using at that time was capable of getting it from blood taken in 2008 and 2012 it would have found it in his blood tests too.
jones must be using a masking agent of some sort. also for his 2015 test he failed and claimed it was on dick pills. Turinabol reduces your sex drive so he used something to pump it up. Also jones managed to pass the pre fight test and post fight test. He failed the post weigh in test. He must have some form of drug which accelerates the cycle at an obscene rate. You can't just magically get busted for turinabol. And study show if you are using turinabol your definitely stacking it with some other drug. But turinabol is a drug who's weakness is its half life its much higher than others and easier to detect
 
you forgot one important thing tho

- Jones is a complete idiot

You mean a man who puts his foot in his mouth every time he steps infront of a camera, can't drive a car to save his life, causes accidents and then runs away from them only to return for the weed, evades the police, fathers children out of wedlock whilst tattooing a new passage from the Bible to his body and fills all the boxes in the sociopath checklist is an idiot. No my friend we're not talking about a mere idiot here, this is War Machine territory... Again great OP, very in depth information about turinabol and all other substances as well.
 
jones must be using a masking agent of some sort. also for his 2015 test he failed and claimed it was on dick pills. Turinabol reduces your sex drive sohe used something to pump it up. Also jones maanged to pass the pre fight test and post fight test. He failed the post weigh in test. He must have some form of drug which accelerates the cycle at an obscene rate. You can't just magically get busted for turinabol. And study show if you are using turinabol your definitely stacking it with some other drug

Massive jump in logic there.
Didn't he pass blood tests but fail a piss tests because they don't test the blood for turinabol.
 
Massive jump in logic there.
Didn't he pass blood tests but fail a piss tests because they don't test the blood for turinabol.

correct turinabol does not show up in blood tests only urine tests
 
To the mods: Don't be such melodramatic prima-donnas, there are no rules i have broken here. I put alot of effort into this research for every sherdogger to read and enjoy and most importantly discuss. The opinions are based on research and are not baseless. And yes discussing Jon Jones drug test failures should fall under UFC discussion. This is not a hate thread. I am NOT directly saying Malki Kawa gave Jones the drugs tho it is highly suspicious a drug that comes from Russia where Malki has friends and that two of his most prominent fighters popped for the same drug is worth mentioning. Go ahead and yellow card me for this if your feelings are hurt. Also if you say you reposted this just delete the thread that you wastelanded within seconds of uploading. Seriously have some courage to admit your wrong sometimes, it would benefit everyone here.

Anyway

Jon Jones failed a 2nd drug test on August 22 2017 four weeks after they collected his sample on July 28th. Both samples A and B tested positive for Turinabol.

History of Turinabol and its effects per flex lab: https://www.flexxlabs.co/turinabol/
Snippets from Flexlab:
-It is an oral drug with a half life estimated to be 16 hours
- made in East Germany in the 1960's and was the cause for their dominance in the olympic games
- It's benefit is used for cycles. It is not recommended for bulking. It is used to achieve athletic results without any significant weight gains (sounds like something a combat athlete would love especially a large 6'4 male that could easily be a heavyweight).
- Tighter muscles, greater strength, greater lean muscle mass
- Is meant to be used in stacks ie other drugs are used in conjunction with it
- It is not a drug that you can legally acquire ie it is most likely a criminal offence in the USA to be dealing with acquiring this drug

From Fitness UK: http://www.fitnessuncovered.co.uk/performance-drugs/turinabol-cycle-the-guide
- An often overlooked quality of Turinabol is its ability to reduce SHBG levels. To explain, SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) is a protein that binds to the sex hormones androgen and oestrogen. By reducing its level we can bring about an environment in which there is a greater quantity of free testosterone and an enhancement of other steroids you may be taking.

More in depth information for guides on injestion and detection:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...c-american-guide-to-cheating-in-the-olympics/

Notes:
- Detection with new testing specifies it can detect turinabol within 3 month period. It's obvious Jones can circumvent this somehow.

Lady that won shot put in 1986 European games was doping with Turinabol since she was 16. The doping abuses are believed to have made it easier for her transition into a man


Reports have said Turinabol hasn't been used for 2-3 decades. This is completely false.
Just from the 2008 and 2012 olympic games. these are the athletes that tested positive for turinabol. Per Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Olympic_Games
This is just a sample from 2008
PMQpwAg.jpg


44 athletes tested positive for 2008. Of the 44 they got 14 bronze 13 silver 3 gold

This is just a sample from 2012
xLccfSb.jpg

Strangely 44 athletes again test positive for 2012. Of the 44 they got 6 bronze 9 silver 3 gold.

From this we can see that turinabol is mainly used by Russian athletes and post soviet countries. Its clearly a drug manufactured in the eastern continents. We can also see exactly what some athletes used in conjunction with turinabol for further analysis. Remember it's been established that is used in stacks with other drugs.

Oxandrolone - growth of muscle tissue. Oxandrolone is used to help you regain weight lost after surgery, severe trauma, or chronic infections. Oxandrolone is also used in people who cannot gain or maintain a healthy weight for unknown medical reasons. 11 hour life. Oral drug

Stanozolol - Same thing as Oxandrolone just a little bit different chemically but more potent ie stronger and efficient. 9 hour life. Oral drug. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5979936/ "Use of Stanozolol can lead to premature aging of the liver due to reduced activity of Telomerase"

The facts:
- Jones passed the pre fight test, post fight test. He failed the post weigh in test with both samples.
- Both tests found traces of turinabol
- Turinabol is definitely used in conjunction with other drugs. The reason it why it pops is simply because it's half life compared to other drugs is that much higher.
- Jones managed to get an illegal drug into his system. It cannot be bought and is used in post soviet countries and russia.
- Jones submitted 14 samples to USADA and not one of them was cleared. Yoel Romero sent one sample and was cleared and suspension reduced
- Jones entered a plea bargain to reduce his suspension for information regarding athletes using drugs and how they get it.
- Both he and Frank Mir tested positive for Turinabol. Both are managed by Malki Kawa.
- Malki Kawa's brother and Frank Mir are friends with Ramzan Kadyrov of Chechnya Russia. Alot of athletes aligned with Kadyrov have failed drug tests.
https://deadspin.com/why-are-ufc-champions-hanging-out-with-an-accused-russi-1705763244
- Jones claimed his first failure was due to dick pills. This could be true as his first failure was due to clomifene and letrozole which are used for oestrogen blockers and for women who don't ovulate

My hypothesis:
- Jones has been cheating this whole time from 2015-2017. What's worse is he probably has been cheating with the exact same substances lmaoooo. I base this on Turinabol reducing your sexual activity hormones (SHBG levels) so he used dick pills to bring his drive up. He failed the test and blamed it on pills so it sounds rational to believe his cover up is what caught him and not exactly the real PED's in his system. So he actually was telling the truth here hahahahahahahahaha WTF.
- Turinabol being present and detected in Jones system' is probably due to its higher half life compared to other drugs that are used in conjunction by a period of 6 hours which is incredibly long. This explains why it was found but nothing else.
- Jones MAY have got this drug through Malki Kawa's connections in Russia (khadyrov). Frank Mir is managed by Kawa, was seen in Russia with Kadyrov himself. I have to make a conclusion that Kawa was giving Jones the right connections in Russia or post soviet countries to obtain the drugs.
- Jones plea bargain with USADA is not to detail other athletes taking the drugs. I think it's more of telling USADA exactly how he get illicit drugs and who is the supplier.
- As years go by, if we hear Jones get illnesses relating to liver problems. We then know this mofo took Stanozolol in conjunction with Turinabol as it causes liver aging.

Hope you enjoyed the ride,

Peace

Read the whole thing and I appreciate the work you have put into this. Jones getting PEDs from Russia via Malki doesn't seem implausible to me at all. If he's not caught again and banned for life, he's gonna pay up with his health eventually...

And I don't see anything in the OP that would warrant a thread deletion. Not even the added complain about mods.
 
UFC made the choice to pay USADA to bust people
Then the UFC paid USADA to let fighters off the hook

Hustling backwards

You really don't understand what is happening or you're just pretending?
 
no one had the courage to say which mod did it, but you can see me arguing with them on their support page on merge/deleted threads
mods have been power tripping as of late

Almost 30 percent of sherdog was yellow carded in the past 3 months
 
Why is TS pleading to mods ?

Did they wasteland his previous thread?
 
To the mods: Don't be such melodramatic prima-donnas, there are no rules i have broken here. I put alot of effort into this research for every sherdogger to read and enjoy and most importantly discuss. The opinions are based on research and are not baseless. And yes discussing Jon Jones drug test failures should fall under UFC discussion. This is not a hate thread. I am NOT directly saying Malki Kawa gave Jones the drugs tho it is highly suspicious a drug that comes from Russia where Malki has friends and that two of his most prominent fighters popped for the same drug is worth mentioning. Go ahead and yellow card me for this if your feelings are hurt. Also if you say you reposted this just delete the thread that you wastelanded within seconds of uploading. Seriously have some courage to admit your wrong sometimes, it would benefit everyone here.

Anyway

Jon Jones failed a 2nd drug test on August 22 2017 four weeks after they collected his sample on July 28th. Both samples A and B tested positive for Turinabol.

History of Turinabol and its effects per flex lab: https://www.flexxlabs.co/turinabol/
Snippets from Flexlab:
-It is an oral drug with a half life estimated to be 16 hours
- made in East Germany in the 1960's and was the cause for their dominance in the olympic games
- It's benefit is used for cycles. It is not recommended for bulking. It is used to achieve athletic results without any significant weight gains (sounds like something a combat athlete would love especially a large 6'4 male that could easily be a heavyweight).
- Tighter muscles, greater strength, greater lean muscle mass
- Is meant to be used in stacks ie other drugs are used in conjunction with it
- It is not a drug that you can legally acquire ie it is most likely a criminal offence in the USA to be dealing with acquiring this drug

From Fitness UK: http://www.fitnessuncovered.co.uk/performance-drugs/turinabol-cycle-the-guide
- An often overlooked quality of Turinabol is its ability to reduce SHBG levels. To explain, SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) is a protein that binds to the sex hormones androgen and oestrogen. By reducing its level we can bring about an environment in which there is a greater quantity of free testosterone and an enhancement of other steroids you may be taking.

More in depth information for guides on injestion and detection:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...c-american-guide-to-cheating-in-the-olympics/

Notes:
- Detection with new testing specifies it can detect turinabol within 3 month period. It's obvious Jones can circumvent this somehow.

Lady that won shot put in 1986 European games was doping with Turinabol since she was 16. The doping abuses are believed to have made it easier for her transition into a man


Reports have said Turinabol hasn't been used for 2-3 decades. This is completely false.
Just from the 2008 and 2012 olympic games. these are the athletes that tested positive for turinabol. Per Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Olympic_Games
This is just a sample from 2008
PMQpwAg.jpg


44 athletes tested positive for 2008. Of the 44 they got 14 bronze 13 silver 3 gold

This is just a sample from 2012
xLccfSb.jpg

Strangely 44 athletes again test positive for 2012. Of the 44 they got 6 bronze 9 silver 3 gold.

From this we can see that turinabol is mainly used by Russian athletes and post soviet countries. Its clearly a drug manufactured in the eastern continents. We can also see exactly what some athletes used in conjunction with turinabol for further analysis. Remember it's been established that is used in stacks with other drugs.

Oxandrolone - growth of muscle tissue. Oxandrolone is used to help you regain weight lost after surgery, severe trauma, or chronic infections. Oxandrolone is also used in people who cannot gain or maintain a healthy weight for unknown medical reasons. 11 hour life. Oral drug

Stanozolol - Same thing as Oxandrolone just a little bit different chemically but more potent ie stronger and efficient. 9 hour life. Oral drug. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5979936/ "Use of Stanozolol can lead to premature aging of the liver due to reduced activity of Telomerase"

The facts:
- Jones passed the pre fight test, post fight test. He failed the post weigh in test with both samples.
- Both tests found traces of turinabol
- Turinabol is definitely used in conjunction with other drugs. The reason it why it pops is simply because it's half life compared to other drugs is that much higher.
- Jones managed to get an illegal drug into his system. It cannot be bought and is used in post soviet countries and russia.
- Jones submitted 14 samples to USADA and not one of them was cleared. Yoel Romero sent one sample and was cleared and suspension reduced
- Jones entered a plea bargain to reduce his suspension for information regarding athletes using drugs and how they get it.
- Both he and Frank Mir tested positive for Turinabol. Both are managed by Malki Kawa.
- Malki Kawa's brother and Frank Mir are friends with Ramzan Kadyrov of Chechnya Russia. Alot of athletes aligned with Kadyrov have failed drug tests.
https://deadspin.com/why-are-ufc-champions-hanging-out-with-an-accused-russi-1705763244
- Jones claimed his first failure was due to dick pills. This could be true as his first failure was due to clomifene and letrozole which are used for oestrogen blockers and for women who don't ovulate

My hypothesis:
- Jones has been cheating this whole time from 2015-2017. What's worse is he probably has been cheating with the exact same substances lmaoooo. I base this on Turinabol reducing your sexual activity hormones (SHBG levels) so he used dick pills to bring his drive up. He failed the test and blamed it on pills so it sounds rational to believe his cover up is what caught him and not exactly the real PED's in his system. So he actually was telling the truth here hahahahahahahahaha WTF.
- Turinabol being present and detected in Jones system' is probably due to its higher half life compared to other drugs that are used in conjunction by a period of 6 hours which is incredibly long. This explains why it was found but nothing else.
- Jones MAY have got this drug through Malki Kawa's connections in Russia (khadyrov). Frank Mir is managed by Kawa, was seen in Russia with Kadyrov himself. I have to make a conclusion that Kawa was giving Jones the right connections in Russia or post soviet countries to obtain the drugs.
- Jones plea bargain with USADA is not to detail other athletes taking the drugs. I think it's more of telling USADA exactly how he get illicit drugs and who is the supplier.
- As years go by, if we hear Jones get illnesses relating to liver problems. We then know this mofo took Stanozolol in conjunction with Turinabol as it causes liver aging.

Hope you enjoyed the ride,

Peace

Some personal experience if thats worth anything aka «bro science» :)
Turinabol is a very easy and cheap drug to get a hold on world wide, all though the pros that gets caught for it comes from some spesific countries. I can go online and order it now if I wanted to. A friend of my used it 10 years a go and gave 1 10mg pill to hes step father and said it was vitamins. Hes step father became energised and worked around the house like a mad man, at night he stayed up banging hes gf. I was there and he was mos def a charged version of himself. Point being, the side effects of turinabol (energy, confidence, appetite) kicks imidently whers the intended effect which is mucle building takes a bunch of days and you have to take a whole lot more than 10mg. When researching drugs the ammount and time/mg it takes for that drug to «work» is focused on the intended effect and not side effects. The side effects is very usefull for a fighter needing a confidence booster 24 hrs before a fight or just get through one hard day in training camp, making you more energised and better appetite for recovery. When u get caught for using an obscure small ammount (which works) you can refer to a the research where it says it takes a whole lot more of this drug to actually «work».
 
Why are people so hyped for Johnny Walker saying he can beat Jones?

Jon took 3 shots of JW and ending up running into a pregnant lady and crashing his car.

Pretty clear cut TKO already we know he can beat him.
 
"If that's what they found they missed the good stuff."

-Chael P Florian
 
To the mods: Don't be such melodramatic prima-donnas, there are no rules i have broken here. I put alot of effort into this research for every sherdogger to read and enjoy and most importantly discuss. The opinions are based on research and are not baseless. And yes discussing Jon Jones drug test failures should fall under UFC discussion. This is not a hate thread. I am NOT directly saying Malki Kawa gave Jones the drugs tho it is highly suspicious a drug that comes from Russia where Malki has friends and that two of his most prominent fighters popped for the same drug is worth mentioning. Go ahead and yellow card me for this if your feelings are hurt. Also if you say you reposted this just delete the thread that you wastelanded within seconds of uploading. Seriously have some courage to admit your wrong sometimes, it would benefit everyone here.

Anyway

Jon Jones failed a 2nd drug test on August 22 2017 four weeks after they collected his sample on July 28th. Both samples A and B tested positive for Turinabol.

History of Turinabol and its effects per flex lab: https://www.flexxlabs.co/turinabol/
Snippets from Flexlab:
-It is an oral drug with a half life estimated to be 16 hours
- made in East Germany in the 1960's and was the cause for their dominance in the olympic games
- It's benefit is used for cycles. It is not recommended for bulking. It is used to achieve athletic results without any significant weight gains (sounds like something a combat athlete would love especially a large 6'4 male that could easily be a heavyweight).
- Tighter muscles, greater strength, greater lean muscle mass
- Is meant to be used in stacks ie other drugs are used in conjunction with it
- It is not a drug that you can legally acquire ie it is most likely a criminal offence in the USA to be dealing with acquiring this drug

From Fitness UK: http://www.fitnessuncovered.co.uk/performance-drugs/turinabol-cycle-the-guide
- An often overlooked quality of Turinabol is its ability to reduce SHBG levels. To explain, SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin) is a protein that binds to the sex hormones androgen and oestrogen. By reducing its level we can bring about an environment in which there is a greater quantity of free testosterone and an enhancement of other steroids you may be taking.

More in depth information for guides on injestion and detection:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/...c-american-guide-to-cheating-in-the-olympics/

Notes:
- Detection with new testing specifies it can detect turinabol within 3 month period. It's obvious Jones can circumvent this somehow.

Lady that won shot put in 1986 European games was doping with Turinabol since she was 16. The doping abuses are believed to have made it easier for her transition into a man


Reports have said Turinabol hasn't been used for 2-3 decades. This is completely false.
Just from the 2008 and 2012 olympic games. these are the athletes that tested positive for turinabol. Per Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Olympic_Games
This is just a sample from 2008
PMQpwAg.jpg


44 athletes tested positive for 2008. Of the 44 they got 14 bronze 13 silver 3 gold

This is just a sample from 2012
xLccfSb.jpg

Strangely 44 athletes again test positive for 2012. Of the 44 they got 6 bronze 9 silver 3 gold.

From this we can see that turinabol is mainly used by Russian athletes and post soviet countries. Its clearly a drug manufactured in the eastern continents. We can also see exactly what some athletes used in conjunction with turinabol for further analysis. Remember it's been established that is used in stacks with other drugs.

Oxandrolone - growth of muscle tissue. Oxandrolone is used to help you regain weight lost after surgery, severe trauma, or chronic infections. Oxandrolone is also used in people who cannot gain or maintain a healthy weight for unknown medical reasons. 11 hour life. Oral drug

Stanozolol - Same thing as Oxandrolone just a little bit different chemically but more potent ie stronger and efficient. 9 hour life. Oral drug. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5979936/ "Use of Stanozolol can lead to premature aging of the liver due to reduced activity of Telomerase"

The facts:
- Jones passed the pre fight test, post fight test. He failed the post weigh in test with both samples.
- Both tests found traces of turinabol
- Turinabol is definitely used in conjunction with other drugs. The reason it why it pops is simply because it's half life compared to other drugs is that much higher.
- Jones managed to get an illegal drug into his system. It cannot be bought and is used in post soviet countries and russia.
- Jones submitted 14 samples to USADA and not one of them was cleared. Yoel Romero sent one sample and was cleared and suspension reduced
- Jones entered a plea bargain to reduce his suspension for information regarding athletes using drugs and how they get it.
- Both he and Frank Mir tested positive for Turinabol. Both are managed by Malki Kawa.
- Malki Kawa's brother and Frank Mir are friends with Ramzan Kadyrov of Chechnya Russia. Alot of athletes aligned with Kadyrov have failed drug tests.
https://deadspin.com/why-are-ufc-champions-hanging-out-with-an-accused-russi-1705763244
- Jones claimed his first failure was due to dick pills. This could be true as his first failure was due to clomifene and letrozole which are used for oestrogen blockers and for women who don't ovulate

My hypothesis:
- Jones has been cheating this whole time from 2015-2017. What's worse is he probably has been cheating with the exact same substances lmaoooo. I base this on Turinabol reducing your sexual activity hormones (SHBG levels) so he used dick pills to bring his drive up. He failed the test and blamed it on pills so it sounds rational to believe his cover up is what caught him and not exactly the real PED's in his system. So he actually was telling the truth here hahahahahahahahaha WTF.
- Turinabol being present and detected in Jones system' is probably due to its higher half life compared to other drugs that are used in conjunction by a period of 6 hours which is incredibly long. This explains why it was found but nothing else.
- Jones MAY have got this drug through Malki Kawa's connections in Russia (khadyrov). Frank Mir is managed by Kawa, was seen in Russia with Kadyrov himself. I have to make a conclusion that Kawa was giving Jones the right connections in Russia or post soviet countries to obtain the drugs.
- Jones plea bargain with USADA is not to detail other athletes taking the drugs. I think it's more of telling USADA exactly how he get illicit drugs and who is the supplier.
- As years go by, if we hear Jones get illnesses relating to liver problems. We then know this mofo took Stanozolol in conjunction with Turinabol as it causes liver aging.

Hope you enjoyed the ride,

Peace


Great post.
 
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