Media Jones was scared of Ngannou and here's proof on Steve-O's Wild Ride show.

Davidjacksonjones said:
You can call a fighter Scary and still want to fight them

Mike Tyson said he was terrified walking into the ring with some of his boxing matches, but he still did it. I have no doubt Jones would have done the same.
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I think you are on to something here. Tyson has also said he was on coke during all of his fights adding another common data point that separates these two GOAT fighters from everyone else.
 
mjfan23 said:
Jon Jones has been saying he’s going to HW since 2013 and only stepped up when Francis was gone, stipe was a geriatric and Gane was his opponent lol
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Jones stepping up is why Francis is gone. The facts are pretty clear from Francis himself. The contract was offered. 3 fights, huge money, no extension clauses, two of those fights against Jones. Jones v Gane was announced the same time as Francis's release. Jones didn't decide to come back, negotiate and book the Gane fight overnight. "All that muscle with a big ass pussy"
 
Shilajit said:
Who's he been training and gaining weight to fight for 2 years? Who's the one who first called out Ngannou?

Who's the one who signed the contract?

Get your head out of the sand kid
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Cartiac said:
Jones stepping up is why Francis is gone. The facts are pretty clear from Francis himself. The contract was offered. 3 fights, huge money, no extension clauses, two of those fights against Jones. Jones v Gane was announced the same time as Francis's release. Jones didn't decide to come back, negotiate and book the Gane fight overnight. "All that muscle with a big ass pussy"
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Fact remains : Jon Jones didn’t fight Francis. Francis fought his contract out. Francis could have been forced to fight Jones or anyone of UFCs liking, but Jones didn’t want that smoke
 
mjfan23 said:
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Fact remains : Jon Jones didn’t fight Francis. Francis fought his contract out. Francis could have been forced to fight Jones or anyone of UFCs liking, but Jones didn’t want that smoke
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Your posting quality and level of bias is what I would expect to see in a casual. Someone like OP.

Yet here you are, still thinking like this 20 years later.

I've been watching for 20 years too. But I have a brain and actually understand the sport.

Jones signed to fight for the HW title. Francis is the guy he'd been preparing to fight. Who he's been gaining weight and training as a heavyweight to fight for two years.

Ngannou had the opportunity to take the fight and didn't sign the contract. So they went with Gane instead.

At the end of the day, Jones is the one who signed. He's the one who first called out Ngannou for a super fight 2 years ago and initiated that discussion in the first place.

Everything else is just delusion.

The only way someone could think this is if you genuinely believe with absolute confidence that Ngannou beats him.

Which is just a sign of someone who knows nothing about MMA. 20 years of watching and you don't know how to analyze a fight.

That was never a good matchup for Frank. He had a punchers chance. Which goes down drastically after the first and second round. Against one of the best defensive and least cleanly hit fighters in the history of the sport.

Like Smith said, he would struggle to find him. And that's someone who has fought him and knows.

He's one of many fighters who would say the exact same thing.
 
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mjfan23 said:
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Fact remains : Jon Jones didn’t fight Francis. Francis fought his contract out. Francis could have been forced to fight Jones or anyone of UFCs liking, but Jones didn’t want that smoke
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And no. They could not force Ngannou to fight Jones.

When Jones first called out Ngannou, he did it under the pretext that he was paid in accordance with the super fight that it was. Understandably so.

But this created a cascade effect which propelled Ngannou and his management to initiate his own quest for big money.

That was a very difficult contract negotiation on both sides of the fence, no matter how it played out.

Even before Frank fought Gane, his team was already deeply entrenched in negotiations for a new contract with the Jones fight at the helm.

The fight was being negotiated behind the scenes and they tried to make it happen for a long time, before it finally did.

And at the end of the day, Jones signed. Ngannou didn't.

The idea of "Jones not wanting that smoke" is easily one of the most delusional takes I've seen for a while, because all he had to do was sign and the fight would've happened right then.

All of the most obvious signs point to Frank and his team being the biggest hindrance to the fight happening. Not Jones.
 
Jones would never face healthy knee Francis

He saw an opportunity after knee surgery (oblique kicks)

Francis knew this and chose to preserve his knee with his long-term career in mind.
 
Shilajit said:
And no. They could not force Ngannou to fight Jones.

When Jones first called out Ngannou, he did it under the pretext that he was paid in accordance with the super fight that it was. Understandably so.

But this created a cascade effect which propelled Ngannou and his management to initiate his own quest for big money.

That was a very difficult contract negotiation on both sides of the fence, no matter how it played out.

Even before Frank fought Gane, his team was already deeply entrenched in negotiations for a new contract with the Jones fight at the helm.

The fight was being negotiated behind the scenes and they tried to make it happen for a long time, before it finally did.

And at the end of the day, Jones signed. Ngannou didn't.

The idea of "Jones not wanting that smoke" is easily one of the most delusional takes I've seen for a while, because all he had to do was sign and the fight would've happened right then.

All of the most obvious signs point to Frank and his team being the biggest hindrance to the fight happening. Not Jones.
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You had to reply to the same post twice with lengthy rants. Insecure much?

Fact remains: Jones announced desire to go up to HW in 2013 and only conveniently did so after Francis had fought out his contract. Francis would have been stripped for not fighting Jones while on contract if Jones had actually signed the deal and Francis refused (GDR Vs cyborg ) !
 
not a coincidence jones went hw as soon francis left
 
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svmr_db said:
Fear of getting smoked by one of the hardest hitting punchers in MMA history is natural, that doesn't equal fear to sign the contract to face the challenge. Not coping at all, and you didn't even try to poke any holes in all the facts I dropped.
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It's odd, because a few of you are getting the standard "copium" treatment, but you're really just throwing facts.

Wtf is there to cope over with Jones? If you're a hater you prob have some serious coping going on cause dude just keeps winning.
 
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