Jorge's 244 payout is a horrible look for the UFC

[DizzyKronic]

I was listening to a boxing show on sirius xm called Ak and Barak. Neither of these guys watch MMA and hardly know anything about it. But when a caller asked about Jorge calling out Canelo and asked why MMA fighters always do this, Barak said " When you're the biggest name in your sport and you're only making 500,000, of course you're going to call out boxers who make 15 mil in one night." This struck me. A guy who doesn't even follow MMA knows what's in these guys' pockets.

Does Dana not understand that this is just bad optics? You want to be taken seriously as a top org when women soocer players get paid more than your champs? Doesn't mean you have to pay everyone millions, but pay your top guys. Two of your biggest stars on the biggest stage of the year. Pathetic.

Masvidal is nowhere near the biggest name in the sport. /thread

 

[Istryker]

Canelo doesnt make 15 million a night. Hes no bum. He makes 33 million dollars from his DAZN-money alone, no matter who he fights.

Yeah idk where he got that number from lmao

 

[cann]

PPV numbers come out in 30-40 days according to him in an interview. Wait until those come out, he got a % of buys.

 

[Oeshon]

A boxer can spend his whole career building a undefeated record of bums.
If ufc fighters where able to pick and choose fights then there would be allot more undefeated fighters

If it's so easy, then why don't MMA fighters quit and go fight a bunch of bums so they can make 15mil a fight?

 

[today123]

what ever happened with the Ali act?

 

[theblackknight]

See my last post above

Honestly dude, they're paid pretty decently I'm sure and you're right with what you just said on the vacations thing too which should tell you all you need to know.

People hear stuff like this so much they believe it but honestly, why do so many continue to sign with the UFC time and time again, it's actually only very few who complain saying they're not getting much.

It's bullshit and it'll never be accurate, they're not going to tell you what's in their bank account but only what suits their argument at the time lol

I’m not saying your wrong personally I air on the side of I don’t really know anything beyond the % of revenue that goes to UFC fighters as opposed to other sports. If anything it makes it harder for me to have sympathy for them when they are constantly traveling, buying nice cars, eating out at nice restaurants, etc. and then complain about fighter pay. I think the what 12-15% of profits they get paid is pretty low compared to other sports no denying that.

 

[Trifick]

Canelo doesnt make 15 million a night. Hes no bum. He makes 33 million dollars from his DAZN-money alone, no matter who he fights.

His deal with dazn is 365 million actually

 

[chrass]

He has 1m Ig followers. Guy is a 50/50 journeyman who will fall back into irrelevance when he’s not fighting overrated fighters like Diaz and askren

That's a great opinion but the thread is about his pay for headlining the biggest event of the year

 

[theblackknight]

Oh and $520,000 + PPV points isn’t that similar to what Jon Jones makes?

 

[shortlefthook]

If it's so easy, then why don't MMA fighters quit and go fight a bunch of bums so they can make 15mil a fight?

Because its a corrupt sport thats dying? Boxing last big show was headlined by two YouTube guys fighting eachother.
And one of them got two points deducted and got his ass whooped yet still only lost by 1 point.
How the fuck does that happen?
Second stop being a retard who in boxing right now other than canelo is making that kind of money?? Please let me know how much loma makes a fight?
Keith thurman?
GGG?
The grass is always greener on the other side bud

 

[Fergelmince]

I was listening to a boxing show on sirius xm called Ak and Barak. Neither of these guys watch MMA and hardly know anything about it. But when a caller asked about Jorge calling out Canelo and asked why MMA fighters always do this, Barak said " When you're the biggest name in your sport and you're only making 500,000, of course you're going to call out boxers who make 15 mil in one night." This struck me. A guy who doesn't even follow MMA knows what's in these guys' pockets.

Does Dana not understand that this is just bad optics? You want to be taken seriously as a top org when women soocer players get paid more than your champs? Doesn't mean you have to pay everyone millions, but pay your top guys. Two of your biggest stars on the biggest stage of the year. Pathetic.

the ufc gives little to no shit about “opticS” when it comes to fighter compensation. “Optics” is something feminatzis and others who consider themselves oppressed talk about on PBS and NPR.

 

[Chok Sok Te]

Very top heavy pay structure as we all know. Perhaps Dana’s successor will be different, but til then if you wanna get paid you got to put in work

 

[Ronin13]

Dana gets away with it. When a capitalist monopoly gets away with it, don't expect change any time soon.

You could say that canelo is a capitalist monopoly too then. Let’s spread the wealth from him and all the lower tier boxers just to be fair.

 

[El Fernas]

I don't know why people always cry about how much fighters are getting paid

500k is a pretty good amount of money to make for a fight

As part of a huge business its not a lot, Canelo made like 30 million for his last fight, UFC should had been able to pay a bit more to the headliners of the card that made the 30million paid guy wait.

 

[GSP Rush]

I’m not saying your wrong personally I air on the side of I don’t really know anything beyond the % of revenue that goes to UFC fighters as opposed to other sports. If anything it makes it harder for me to have sympathy for them when they are constantly traveling, buying nice cars, eating out at nice restaurants, etc. and then complain about fighter pay. I think the what 12-15% of profits they get paid is pretty low compared to other sports no denying that.

That's what I mean, I think you're pretty much answering your own question there with what you say in your first paragraph.

I mean think about it, how are they able to do that then?

The percentage thing I have no idea of but again I wouldn't even take that on board because unless we've seen those contracts ourselves in hand we would never know, anything that's put out there isn't going to be accurate to our attention (or should it be really) and as I say so many fighters stay with the UFC for years so this also should tell you it's really not that bad as those who complain about pay make out.

I mean when did you last hear Cub Swanson complain about pay? What about Uriah Faber, Damien Maia and all those veterans that have stayed with the UFC for years and continue to do so all very happy to do so also, in fact think of most of the roster ... not many of them do actually complain or even talk about it and why, because they are happy and content with what they get and if they're not they find other avenue's and ways to make their money.

Look at it like this too, the UFC give you the platform to make a name for yourself also so you know the one's who are complaining are probably those who are pissing the money up the wall as opposed to investing and using the name they build to make money. People can love or hate Conor as much as they like but from a business and money making side he was very clever, sure he got to the highest of the high in the UFC and I get that but all those guys make a name for themselves in the sporting world and become recognised for that which is enough for them to invest and make money in other things such as gyms, clothing brands, sponsorship's etc...

The one thing I have heard which is a bit shitty (and I also don't know if this is true either) is that the UFC don't allow them to have sponsors while signed to them due to the Reebok deal however they definitely don't stop them endorsing in other ways, Cub Swanson does this with his Killer Cub franchise which he's not doing so much now but he did and he's also invested.

There's also other aspects too such as when they do events do they take a big team with them or a small team to pay and cater for (food, accommodation, travel and cut of the UFC pay on top) or do they take a smaller team and manage their finances more too, chances are some of those complaining aren't managing this either and are finding out they have less money due to big expenditures they're choosing to take with them on this whole journey, there's so many things that people never discuss or take into consideration

They're not paid that badly dude, it's a big misconception and it's only those who complain who shout the most.

They might not be earning millions but they're doing alright for sure

 

[burningspear]

You could say that canelo is a capitalist monopoly too then. Let’s spread the wealth from him and all the lower tier boxers just to be fair.

Absolutely. He has 30 mill to trickle down, Jorge has 500,000. Comparable size shows. 29,000,500 shortfall<45>someone's making bank at the UFC and it aint the fighters.

 

[burningspear]

Capitalism has its flaws but it is the best system there is. I could post some real amazing videos examining my point. They are a little boring but you won't be able to refute anything they say or claim. Have a great day

But the Capitalist/Socialist mix Scandinavian countries are the most successful in terms of well being and quality of life.

 

[Massapiece]

Terence Crawford makes 3.5 mil per fight. Boxers deserve the money theyre earning but mixed martial artists should be paid better.

 

[Oeshon]

Because its a corrupt sport thats dying? Boxing last big show was headlined by two YouTube guys fighting eachother.
And one of them got two points deducted and got his ass whooped yet still only lost by 1 point.
How the fuck does that happen?
Second stop being a retard who in boxing right now other than canelo is making that kind of money?? Please let me know how much loma makes a fight?
Keith thurman?
GGG?
The grass is always greener on the other side bud

Post is so dumb it's not even worth a legit reply. Lol.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

Another one of these "What they are paid" thread.

Nothing against you TS (You're an awesome poster here) but don't take any notice of people who think they know what fighters are and aren't being paid.

Even the shit in the media is not accurate and bullshit and it's all to do with either a narrative or creating an image.

This is not the stuff that would ever be legitimately discussed, specially to the public.

All these things such as pay and contracts and things like that are all highly confidential, some dude on a radio show definitely doesn't know what they are or aren't being paid neither do we.

It's like when you see those Net Worth things online too, they are all bullshit and made up figures which are more times than not massively exaggerated also.

I'd take no notice of things like this

Edit: Just to add Jorge has said numerous times before the fight he is being paid well and is very happy with the pay also, he also said a lot of fighters would be jealous if they knew the amount he was being paid (which obviously he didn't disclose)

The UFC is the only organization in sports for which the fans seem constantly compelled to make excuses concerning the mysterious nebula of the unknown that is fighter pay. We know what they're paid. It's posted. It's a fraction of basically every other organization.

I'm not even someone who frequently discusses this as it isnt really my concern, but give me a break with the "backroom bonus" bullshit.