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MMA yes, pure BJJ I don't know that that's true. Alliance and Gracie Barra are both from the Carlos/Helio side, and they've probably won more world titles than any other groups. Atos is an Alliance split off (mostly).
Though I agree that people who think Carlson's students aren't technical are totally wrong. Just because you prefer wicked TDs and crushing top game to sporty guard play doesn't make you less technical, it's just a stylistic choice.
He mentioned Carlos Jr., not Sr. in which case would hold true. Alliance and GB I don't think have any lineage from Helio although the founders may have trained with that side of the family
As for Atos, Ramon Lemos is straight up a Nova Uniao BB from Pederneiras, in turn from Carlson Sr. Although Galvao is the other leader of Atos, Ramon is the one who originated the team then Galvao jumped on later