New California law allows jail time for using wrong gender pronoun

Should there be legal penalties for using the wrong gender pronoun?

  • Yes. Montetary fine even if accidentally used

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  • Yes. Monetary fine if intentional

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Is this a violation of the right of free speech, or progress ? This bill was sponsored by State Senator Scott Wiener, who was involved in the recent change in CA law whereby it is no longer a felony crime to expose someone to HIV without their knowledge (and thus without their consent)
What say you, denizens of Sherdog ?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...pronoun-sponsor-denies-that-would-happen.html

California health care workers who “willfully and repeatedly” decline to use a senior transgender patient's “preferred name or pronouns” could face punishments ranging from a fine to jail time under a newly signed law.

California Gov. Jerry Brown signed the legislation last week.

The sponsor, Democratic state Sen. Scott Wiener, has argued adamantly that nobody is going to be criminally prosecuted for using the wrong pronoun.

“It’s just more scare tactics by people who oppose all LGBT civil rights and protections,” he said in a statement last month.

But the language seemingly allows for the possibility, however remote.

The bill itself is aimed at protecting transgender and other LGBT individuals in hospitals, retirement homes and assisted living facilities. The bill would ensure those facilities accommodate transgender people and their needs, including letting them decide which gender-specific bathroom they prefer to use.

"It shall be unlawful for a long-term care facility or facility staff to take any of the following actions wholly or partially on the basis of a person’s actual or perceived sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, or human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) status," the bill reads.

Among the unlawful actions are “willfully and repeatedly” failing to use a transgender person’s “preferred name or pronouns” after he or she is “clearly informed of the preferred name or pronouns.”

The law states that if provisions are violated, the violator could be punished by a fine “not to exceed one thousand dollars” or “by imprisonment in the county jail for a period not to exceed one year,” or both.

Wiener's office noted that violations for residential care facilities under existing law rarely resulted in criminal charges, especially for minor violations. Criminal penalties are meant more for violations that expose a patient to risk of death or serious harm, his office said.

Wiener’s office noted that the law “does not create any new criminal provisions,” but rather creates “new rights within an existing structure.”

One opponent of the law, the California Family Council's Greg Burt, slammed the measure when the bill was in its early stages.

“How can you believe in free speech, but think the government can compel people to use certain pronouns when talking to others?” he said to the California Assembly Judiciary Committee in August, according to CBN News.
 
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Perpetual fires, disease pit, sanctuary state, spawning ground and fortress of identity politics....wonderful place Cali has become.
 
Cali sure has a way of fucking up a very beautiful state.
 
-Law says there is a jail penalty for breaking it
-Lawmaker lies and says there isn't so it will pass

What a slimball
 
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lol California is so fucking backwards, using the wrong pronoun is worse than knowingly transmitting the AIDS virus.
 
Meh, it says for health care professionals to call patients by their preferred pronouns. And if they “willfully and repeatedly” don’t they get in trouble.

As a conservative I don’t think this is much to cry about. It’s generally a good idea not to taunt patients in general and while in care they should probably be catered to, as technically they are paying for the care.

Mentally unstable people should probably be addressed in a way that won’t agitate them, probably for the good of whoever is taking care of them.
 
Meh, it says for health care professionals to call patients by their preferred pronouns. And if they “willfully and repeatedly” don’t they get in trouble.

As a conservative I don’t think this is much to cry about. It’s generally a good idea not to taunt patients in general and while in care they should probably be catered to, as technically they are paying for the care.

Mentally unstable people should probably be addressed in a way that won’t agitate them, probably for the good of whoever is taking care of them.
Stop trying to downplay this.
 
California needs to push on their secession. In the meantime, all the freaks around the country should move to California.
 
Meh, it says for health care professionals to call patients by their preferred pronouns. And if they “willfully and repeatedly” don’t they get in trouble.

As a conservative I don’t think this is much to cry about. It’s generally a good idea not to taunt patients in general and while in care they should probably be catered to, as technically they are paying for the care.

Mentally unstable people should probably be addressed in a way that won’t agitate them, probably for the good of whoever is taking care of them.

It could be argued that doing so only nurtures their mental illness, and reinforces their delusions - which would be an unethical thing for a health care professional to knowingly do.

Would you say the same thing for a schizophrenic that wanted you to acknowledge the voices they were hearing?
 
California needs to push on their secession. In the meantime, all the freaks around the country should move to California.

That's a long way from home for most of them (Florida)
 
Hopefully liberals will wake up from their mass hysteria. Unfortunately confirmatiom bias will make them interpret these new laws as rational and somehow in alignment with their existing beliefs​
 
Sounds like it violates the first amendment, no? If not, that's the wonders of confederacy.
 
Meh, it says for health care professionals to call patients by their preferred pronouns. And if they “willfully and repeatedly” don’t they get in trouble.

As a conservative I don’t think this is much to cry about. It’s generally a good idea not to taunt patients in general and while in care they should probably be catered to, as technically they are paying for the care.

Mentally unstable people should probably be addressed in a way that won’t agitate them, probably for the good of whoever is taking care of them.
Sounds like this law makes it illegal for a mental health professional to counsel a transgender out of their mental illness.

I can't see any mental healthcare person taunting their patient with the correct pronouns. Telling someone the truth of their biology is not necessarily taunting trans people.
 
OP has to be a russian bot spreading fake news... this should lure in those retard trump voters though
 
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