NYT Article: "New Hampshire, 94% White, Asks How Do You Diversify a Whole State?"

[WTF2008]

I didn't say "everyone in the whole state of New Hampshire" and you should punch yourself for such a lousy response.

I said this is New Hampshire's initiative. It's their program, their studies, their statistics, their worries. It's not a fiction of the NYT.

Who's initiative?
It just popped up?
They're a bunch of evil white male conservatives, shit doesn't just pop off, up.

Would you say it would be kind strange for something like that to suddenly come up there?

 

[bushman505]

Whiteness is a problem but blackness is cool????

 

[NoDak]

I do believe that there's some weird shit going on now that is trying to paint white people as evil.

Real Leftist shit.

"White Privilege" from the dude who coined it circa late 1960s.

"Does this mean that the white workers have no revolutionary potential, that they should be written out of the ranks of the revolutionary forces? Does it mean that, as far as the white workers are concerned, we must sit passively and wait until the ruling class, of its own necessity moves to cut its losses at the expense of some of the white workers’ racial privileges and attempts to reduce them to or near the level of black, brown and yellow workers?

It does not mean either of these things. In spite of their privileges, the white workers (except for the aristocracy of labor) are exploited proletarians, victims of “the stupid system of violence and robbery which we call Law and Industry”. (G.B. Shaw). In the struggle for socialism, as well as the struggle for immediate reforms, without which the working class will never achieve socialist consciousness, the white workers, like their black, brown and yellow brothers, have a “world to win”.

Context: It was originally described as a bribe of higher social status by the ruling class as a means of preventing worker unity and keeping 'ordinary white people' more entrenched in their condition of exploitation precisely by accepting it. It also anticipated its deconstruction which we are seeing now, eh?

A first-gen Pakistani-American Muslim of all people separating what is what.

"The fact that the idea of white privilege is used today to show why we can’t possibly unify—that’s quite an amazing phenomenon, that it’s turned into essentially its opposite. Now in an organizing meeting, any discussion that takes place between a white person and a person of color will be tense and guarded, because at any time the white person may be accused of white privilege, and thus denounced for bringing irreconcilable political interests into the group.

That is a very different kind of politics, and not one that tends to result in open strategic discussions, building trust between activists, or effectively broadening towards a mass movement. But socialists have to understand that this also cuts in the other direction! If accusations of white privilege are made, it’s usually a sign that something is missing in that organizing. The problem is that just responding by saying “Check your privilege” doesn’t actually change the situation—you’re still centering the whole discussion on them, instead of increasing participation. We have a tendency to overestimate the importance of people’s spontaneous ideas, at the expense of the material practices which really produce those ideas.

There are a great deal of white people in this country who are just as excluded from left movements, and we should take that seriously. We have a poor white population that is dying of opioid addiction and is struggling under the crushing weight of economic inequality, and those people also have to be incorporated into our movements. If we have movements that are entirely based around English majors and web designers, we’re not reaching the majority of the American population no matter what their skin color is. So I think that’s a problem that has to be really carefully considered alongside the racial composition of left groups."

 

[WTF2008]

Real Leftist shit.

"White Privilege" from the dude who coined it circa late 1960s.

"Does this mean that the white workers have no revolutionary potential, that they should be written out of the ranks of the revolutionary forces? Does it mean that, as far as the white workers are concerned, we must sit passively and wait until the ruling class, of its own necessity moves to cut its losses at the expense of some of the white workers’ racial privileges and attempts to reduce them to or near the level of black, brown and yellow workers?

It does not mean either of these things. In spite of their privileges, the white workers (except for the aristocracy of labor) are exploited proletarians, victims of “the stupid system of violence and robbery which we call Law and Industry”. (G.B. Shaw). In the struggle for socialism, as well as the struggle for immediate reforms, without which the working class will never achieve socialist consciousness, the white workers, like their black, brown and yellow brothers, have a “world to win”.

Context: It was originally described as a bribe of higher social status by the ruling class as a means of preventing worker unity and keeping 'ordinary white people' more entrenched in their condition of exploitation precisely by accepting it. It also anticipated its deconstruction which we are seeing now, eh?

A first-gen Pakistani-American Muslim of all people separating what is what.

"The fact that the idea of white privilege is used today to show why we can’t possibly unify—that’s quite an amazing phenomenon, that it’s turned into essentially its opposite. Now in an organizing meeting, any discussion that takes place between a white person and a person of color will be tense and guarded, because at any time the white person may be accused of white privilege, and thus denounced for bringing irreconcilable political interests into the group.

That is a very different kind of politics, and not one that tends to result in open strategic discussions, building trust between activists, or effectively broadening towards a mass movement. But socialists have to understand that this also cuts in the other direction! If accusations of white privilege are made, it’s usually a sign that something is missing in that organizing. The problem is that just responding by saying “Check your privilege” doesn’t actually change the situation—you’re still centering the whole discussion on them, instead of increasing participation. We have a tendency to overestimate the importance of people’s spontaneous ideas, at the expense of the material practices which really produce those ideas.

There are a great deal of white people in this country who are just as excluded from left movements, and we should take that seriously. We have a poor white population that is dying of opioid addiction and is struggling under the crushing weight of economic inequality, and those people also have to be incorporated into our movements. If we have movements that are entirely based around English majors and web designers, we’re not reaching the majority of the American population no matter what their skin color is. So I think that’s a problem that has to be really carefully considered alongside the racial composition of left groups."

That was really long and all over the place lol.

I think anyone actually watching could agree though that there's a reason these things go in waves.

Use what works. Racial tension, drug addiction etc.
It's not new, just more "sophisticated"

Opioids and Twitter over crack and burning crosses.

 

[Darth_Inv1ctu5]

New Hampshire is a flourishing state that has a very low crime rate, produces some of the nations highest SAT scores, one of the country's lowest incarceration and unemployment rates, and has a lot of guns, but the homicide rate less than 1/10 of the that of Washington DC.

One lady said that when she moved there from Colombia that she couldn't find enough Spanish speaking people there. According to the article New Hampshire's whiteness is offensive and needs to be addressed quickly.

Spoiler: Full article here

Diversifying by what means? Tax breaks based on race/ethnicity? What the hell is going on anymore?

On a separate note, that cocksucker Carlson continues with misleading segment titles, NYT didn't say NH whiteness was offensive at any point in the article, it relayed what peoples' opinions were, not theirs

 

[NoDak]

That was really long and all over the place lol.

I think anyone actually watching could agree though that there's a reason these things go in waves.

Use what works. Racial tension, drug addiction etc.
It's not new, just more "sophisticated"

Opioids and Twitter over crack and burning crosses.

Ha, I actually tried to make it succinct as possible but yeah anyone that isn't completely entrenched in this game and has the capacity to think for themselves can see it for the divide and conquer that it is. That's my fundamental problem with the 'anti-white' rhetoric (and I'm not really talking about this thread), not because I am white and it triggers me or something.

What the hell is going on anymore?

So much attention, white ppl stay #trending.

 

[Brodels]

I fucking hate being alive. When the fuck are people going to start crying about all the Asians in China? You think the Chinese would give a rats ass if I loved there and couldn't find enough English speaking people? No. And they wouldn't be wrong for not giving a shit. Fuck diversity.

 

[NoDak]

I fucking hate being alive.

:-/

 

[NoDak]

I notice a trend

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/n...-a-whole-state.3808865/page-16#post-143600657



It probs inadvertently came off as some kind of sales pitch, but I'm just proud of where I'm from and how far we made it from really being no more than humble, barefooted farm people stock.

The natural & social environment was always top notch and why the southern twin is on there, but the state wouldn't be seeing the kind of economic success it has over the last decade if it didn't hit the jackpot with shale and siphon billions of it towards the public good, which is yet another parallel it shares with Norway (actually one of the poorer countries on the continent prior to petro-resource wealth). I dunno how much being white actually has to do with it tbh.

 

[InternetHero]

Education.

Work on a new diversity of ideas, and put less credence upon mismanaging cultural groups.

 

[SaiWa]

I fucking hate being alive. When the fuck are people going to start crying about all the Asians in China? You think the Chinese would give a rats ass if I loved there and couldn't find enough English speaking people? No. And they wouldn't be wrong for not giving a shit. Fuck diversity.

Oh wow your life must be so miserable!... lol.

I don't recommend it but you could just kill yourself if you hate being alive ya dramatic lil biatch...

 

[JonesBones]

Catalina is selective and ignorant in her outrage. Why isn't she more upset about no Hungarian (her fathers language) speakers in New Hampshire. Spanish is a white mans language while arguably Hungarian isn't. Ez a csaj bolond.

Jesus buddy. Hungarians are more white than Spanish. Hungarian comes from near Finland. They are the whitest people in the area and are often confused as Slavs. Which they aren't.

 

[Rygu]

The world is 10-15% white.

Why must these liberal cucks whine about diversifying everywhere where whites are the majority but never in places where other races are a majority?

 

[JonesBones]

Why the word for word copy then? Both of you get the Soros weekly recommended thread starters at the same time?

Soros is Hungarian and a fuckin saint. That guy crushes economies in the palm of his fuckin hand. Love him. Soros is a legend.

 

[Bald1]

Jesus buddy. Hungarians are more white than Spanish. Hungarian comes from near Finland. They are the whitest people in the area and are often confused as Slavs. Which they aren't.

Tell me more...

 

[NoDak]

more white

the whitest people

Hungarian

Spanish

Finland

Slavs

Shocking it took 20 pages.

 

[ocfightfan]

Why do they need to diversify? Why is this a worthy goal?

 

[ocfightfan]

Oh wow your life must be so miserable!... lol.

I don't recommend it but you could just kill yourself if you hate being alive ya dramatic lil biatch...

Did you know that white people are human beings with their own problems and challenges? Not all of them are rich industrialists cackling evilly while they sail on their yacht and twirl their mustaches as they put the screws to black and brown people.

 

[Shoemaker]

New Hampshire is 95% white.
African Americans are more likely to get divorced than white people.


One, and only one, of those statements has to be racist depending on what party you identify with. Crazy time to be alive.

 

[John Du Pont]

White people you have allowed the nation to build a cage around you and they are putting you at the bottom of the pile USA will look like south Africa and Brazil had a baby. This is supposed to be a humanitarian endeavor, we will see lol.