Opinion On the subject of western Maoism

[Rational Poster]

Because they don't have the power. But they'd do ALL of that, if they could. You're mistaking the belief in Maoism to the application of it. The social justice freaks ABSOLUTELY want to do all of what you listed.

Sick fan fiction loser.

 

[Rational Poster]

I am sure there were many in tsarist Russia who thought so about the communists too. Your response by the way proves my point - when faced with someone who disagrees with you, u have nothing but contempt and mockery instead of trying to reason with them.

Have you tried making a drawing in MS paint? I think that's more your speed than politics and ideologies.

 

[tastaylvr]

At least you joined the discussion. Lmao

You think the Trans Community have replaced African Americans as the preferred agents of change in the Western Maoist Utopia known as Joe Biden’s America? @tastaylvr

Why are you @Ing me while quoting my post?

Why can't you string a sentence together without it having multiple mistakes? Even the simplest sentence seems to be out of reach for you as sad as it is. It must hurt your soul that an immigrant can come into this country and surpass your writing ability within a few months. Do you think it's the unfair advantage they have from the "woke" agenda? If you also had access to these systems would you be able to write a sentence as well as them?

Also why do you continue to prove my point by providing zero input? Is writing your thoughts onto paper too difficult a task for you?

Can you at least tell me the key points that resonate with you in the video you posted? Why do we need to watch a full video then make assumptions about what you thought about it?

 

[Tatra]

Sick fan fiction loser.

What is this babble? Some new leftist lingo I'm not aware of because I have a life?

 

[Rational Poster]

What is this babble? Some new leftist lingo I'm not aware of because I have a life?

There is no way someone that would say what you said to me has a life. lmao

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

There is no way someone that would say what you said to me has a life. lmao

What?

 

[Rational Poster]

What?

I'm calling you all losers basically.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Some elements of the right tend to have a proclivity to believe in fringe conspiracy theories but it's not because they are "crazy". The leftists like to think so but this comes from an incipient egotistical arrogance on their part where they think that the right are dumb and stupid and unlearned and that they are naturally smarter. The truth is that this is a lie that the leftists have trained those who have swallowed their ideology to believe to make them a good deal easier to manipulate and lead by the nose by authority figures.

The reason why many on the right tend to ascribe more truth than what most conspiracy theories ddeserve because they lost faith in the legacy media long ago thanks to the media's clear left bias and war against the values that the right hold dear. This is something that most left leaning people don't realise becsuse they have been well trained by that same media. However when the media abrogated its duty to remain impartial and to only pursue factual truth and not ideology, the media also surrendered the unimpeachable moral authority that such independence and impartiality gsve it and gave up the right to be the fifth estate. Instead tle media became the Pravda of the woke left- a propaganda arm.

We don't actually disagree that much here. When I say the right is crazy, I'm not talking about individual delusions. It's just a completely broken collective reality detector. And it is true that distrust and hatred for non-partisan information sources (not just the MSM, but academia, public-sector data gathering, law enforcement, etc.) is a big part of the cause of that disconnection from reality.

The distrust therefore became more and more entrenched until many on the right lost all confidence in the legacy media. As a result that the very few legacy media organisations that promoted right perspectives became polarised against the vast majority which were promoting increasingly more and more extreme leftist views. Thus in these days the pre existing differences between left and right in America has become a yawning ideological chasm and there are now essentially two nations - the leftist America that controls the pop culture, academic viewpoints and the media and thus corporate culture, and Middle America that continues to embrace traditional values and democracy and capitalism.

Well, the right definitely doesn't support democracy! I think we've also been seeing a shift on capitalism, with the left supporting it more and the right supporting it less. It's not actually a good fit with rightism, but the right professed support for it because of the Cold War (and that was probably why some on the right used to profess support for democracy, though that was always a stretch and is pretty much dead).

The fact is that those on the right still believe in logic and reason and objective facts and that there is right and wrong.

Who? That's definitely not mainstream on the right the way it is on the left.

 

[Tatra]

There is no way someone that would say what you said to me has a life. lmao

Imagine thinking that kind of speech is typical for people who have a life... "fan fiction". LMFAO you fucking loser, get out more.

 

[Belaya Smert]

Why are you @Ing me while quoting my post?

Why can't you string a sentence together without it having multiple mistakes? Even the simplest sentence seems to be out of reach for you as sad as it is. It must hurt your soul that an immigrant can come into this country and surpass your writing ability within a few months. Do you think it's the unfair advantage they have from the "woke" agenda? If you also had access to these systems would you be able to write a sentence as well as them?

Also why do you continue to prove my point by providing zero input? Is writing your thoughts onto paper too difficult a task for you?

Can you at least tell me the key points that resonate with you in the video you posted? Why do we need to watch a full video then make assumptions about what you thought about it?

I would seriously recommend seeking a qualified mental health professional if this is the civil discourse you are capable of here, or anywhere else in life.

 

[Eusung]

Roots of woke = Marxism

Video from a history buff channel.

 

[Rational Poster]

Imagine thinking that kind of speech is typical for people who have a life... "fan fiction". LMFAO you fucking loser, get out more.

Yeah you're all online only losers telling each other fan fiction about your political opponents because your life is trash. Get out more fucking loser.

 

[Sanserif]

We don't actually disagree that much here. When I say the right is crazy, I'm not talking about individual delusions. It's just a completely broken collective reality detector. And it is true that distrust and hatred for non-partisan information sources (not just the MSM, but academia, public-sector data gathering, law enforcement, etc.) is a big part of the cause of that disconnection from reality.



Well, the right definitely doesn't support democracy! I think we've also been seeing a shift on capitalism, with the left supporting it more and the right supporting it less. It's not actually a good fit with rightism, but the right professed support for it because of the Cold War (and that was probably why some on the right used to profess support for democracy, though that was always a stretch and is pretty much dead).



Who? That's definitely not mainstream on the right the way it is on the left.

Your perception is very different from mine. The right continues to support democracy and refuses to put strictures on personal liberty and scope of action as far as possible. In particilsr the right continues to uphold freedom of speech and freedom of religion very strongly. I don't see any diminution in the rights support for capitalism.

On the other hand the left is now much more socialist than they are democratic nor capitalist. Woke culture means that many on tbe left - particularly the young social justice warrior types - don't believe in freedom of speech anymore and instead practice cancel culture in the name of suppressing "hate" speech redefined as Any philosophy they don't agree with. They definitely don't accept freedom of religion in any meaningful way. Innfsct the left is so wedded to the dialectic of postmodernism that just having a rational discussion with many on tbe left is an uphill task.

 

[Sanserif]

Have you tried making a drawing in MS paint? I think that's more your speed than politics and ideologies.

Your posts are the antithesis of the name u have chosen as your moniker here. Have a nice life...

 

[Rational Poster]

Your posts are the antithesis of the name u have chosen as your moniker here. Have a nice life...

I think it's pretty spot on, especially in this context. It doesn't take much energy or effort to dismiss this type of online only bullshit, nor should it.

Hell, you aren't even American.

 

[jx820]

This guy is a clown shoe. I got 5 minutes into that train wreck and I have no idea what he means by "woke".

Admittedly that is in part because when a conservative says "woke" they may mean a black person appeared in a film, that a person belives the minimum wage should be pegged to living wage, or that a person is OK with the existence of homosexuals.

I don't know which of these or the 10,000 other things that are woke makes one a maoist in this guys mind, and if I'm being honest after 5 minutes of his babbling nonsense, I don't care.

If he wants to be taken seriously he should talk like an adult and say what he means instead of trying to co-opt slang.

 

[Sanserif]

This guy is a clown shoe. I got 5 minutes into that train wreck and I have no idea what he means by "woke".

Admittedly that is in part because when a conservative says "woke" they may mean a black person appeared in a film, that a person belives the minimum wage should be pegged to living wage, or that a person is OK with the existence of homosexuals.

I don't know which of these or the 10,000 other things that are woke makes one a maoist in this guys mind, and if I'm being honest after 5 minutes of his babbling nonsense, I don't care.

If he wants to be taken seriously he should talk like an adult and say what he means instead of trying to co-opt slang.

Perhaps this link to what lindsay appears to define wokeness as may help...

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-woke-wokeness/

 

[Jack V Savage]

Your perception is very different from mine. The right continues to support democracy and refuses to put strictures on personal liberty and scope of action as far as possible. In particilsr the right continues to uphold freedom of speech and freedom of religion very strongly. I don't see any diminution in the rights support for capitalism.

The last Republican president literally tried to overthrow democratic rule in America, with the support of a lot of the party. Republican justices just took a long-established right away from people. Another major GOP contender is arguing that millions of people should have their voting rights taken. WTF are you talking about? There's a lot more that one can say on the subject. The GOP also has been pushing hard against freedom of speech.

On the other hand the left is now much more socialist than they are democratic nor capitalist.

???

Woke culture means that many on tbe left - particularly the young social justice warrior types - don't believe in freedom of speech anymore and instead practice cancel culture in the name of suppressing "hate" speech redefined as Any philosophy they don't agree with.

"Cancel culture" = "people being allowed to disagree with rightists," no? Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism or from being out of step with the culture. It means you're free to speak.

They definitely don't accept freedom of religion in any meaningful way. Innfsct the left is so wedded to the dialectic of postmodernism that just having a rational discussion with many on tbe left is an uphill task.

In what sense do you think the mainstream left doesn't accept freedom of religion?

 

[Jack V Savage]

This guy is a clown shoe. I got 5 minutes into that train wreck and I have no idea what he means by "woke".

Admittedly that is in part because when a conservative says "woke" they may mean a black person appeared in a film, that a person belives the minimum wage should be pegged to living wage, or that a person is OK with the existence of homosexuals.

I don't know which of these or the 10,000 other things that are woke makes one a maoist in this guys mind, and if I'm being honest after 5 minutes of his babbling nonsense, I don't care.

If he wants to be taken seriously he should talk like an adult and say what he means instead of trying to co-opt slang.

It's a classic motte and bailey fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Bad links? First one goes to a story about people supporting a doctor who was fired for spreading false claims. Second just goes to the wiki page for the proposed Disinformation Governance Board. Again, I think people should be allowed to say when others are saying something untrue. I don't think you can accomplish anything good or productive by trying to stop freedom of speech.

Anyway, it's kind of moved off the point. I was just saying that I think liberals are much more likely to want to seriously investigate ideas. Rightists don't believe in truth to the same extent and so are more likely to lie about what people believe or resolve disagreement with force or personal attacks.

The doctor is Peter McCullough, a renowned Cardiologist. Who gets to decide what is a false claim (disinformation/misinformation)? It was early on in the pandemic and there was consensus but not settled scientific evidence of what was true or false (lab leak, nature etc... for example).

I think you are way off the mark by saying rightists don't believe in truth and are more likely to lie about what people believe or resolve a disagreement with force or personal attacks. Can you give an example of people on the right gtrying to resolve a disagreement with force?