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Ozark on Netflix

Mohawk Mauler said:
Just finished watching,i gotta say If i have ever wanted a Heisenberg ending it would have been for both Marty/Wendy...Would suck for the kids but they are better off.
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I'd rather they spare Marty and instead off Jonah with his mom. i hate that little prick. He's the Skylar of Ozark.
 
TheNinja said:
I had some empathy for Ruth and a little bit for Wyatt. I mean....look at their upbringing? A bunch of trailer living hicks who's family was known for crime and just being all around terrible in the community. I would say the gene pool didn't have a ton of intelligence, or moreso a ton of real world knowledge of how things worked. They didn't understand the scale of what they were dealing with with the cartel b/c they grew up ignorant and sheltered in their world.

I think once Wyatt was killed, Ruth didn't care what happened. Sure, she wanted to not die and seemed like she wanted to clear her name and set up the casino as a legit operation. But i believe she understood the potential consequences when she went after Javi. And I believe she was OK with those consequences and wasn't going to give Javi's mom the satisfaction of begging for her life or being scared of her . She was tired and she was done with it all after Wyatt.

Wyatt made dumb choices b/c he was an ignorant kid being manipulated by much smarter and more mature peopel.
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To me, Ruth very much fits within the tradition of the tragic hero; the hero who is doomed to a tragic end because of a fundamental part of their character.

Ruth is smart, loyal and caring but born into a family mired in criminality and futility. Her character arc is very much about whether it is possible to escape that legacy.

Ruth has opportunity after opportunity to escape her environment but the tragedy, of course, is that her history has made it impossible for her to actually take those opportunities. She is smart enough to open the door to escape but fundamentally unable to walk through it.

During the last season, every chain holding Ruth in place is cut one by one. She learns that Ben is dead and therefore there is no reason to wait for him to return. She begs Wyatt to leave with her and his refusal is almost immediately rendered moot by his murder. She attains money and a clean record. Rachel pleads with her to leave while also demonstrating that escape is possible.

Ruth has the money and the skills to go anywhere she wants but she can’t leave because at her core she cannot imagine another life. The woman who figured out how to control a casino cannot figure out how to get on a plane to somewhere else. She has no family left to chain her down but she is no freer. She can choose to leave Javi for another day but instead she chooses hillbilly family vengeance. She can choose to flee in the aftermath of Javi’s murder but instead remains easy to find in the only home that she has ever known.

Every time somebody asks Ruth where she might go and what she might do when she gets there, Ruth replies with some variation of “fuck if I know”.

Her freedom of action is limited to reshaping the family compound but even the boundaries of that transformation are made obvious by the continued presence of the crappy sofa.

Camilla kills Ruth against the backdrop of Ruth’s futility – the incomplete renovation of Ruth’s family home with the corpse of a Mexican hit man buried under the pool. The message is clear - you cannot change this place.

Ruth’s tragedy is that she despite all of her brains she remained just as stuck as every other generation of her family.

She could not leave without her family but the death of her family made it impossible for her to leave.

The parallel to the Byrde kids is striking. They too are given the chance to escape but in the end they are just as stuck. Jonah killing Mel is the final act that will close that door forever.
 
I didn't love the last episode, but i didn't hate it.

Seemed....rushed. Too many important folks dying and navarros sister taking over? Bah.
 
eddymotto said:
To me, Ruth very much fits within the tradition of the tragic hero; the hero who is doomed to a tragic end because of a fundamental part of their character.

Ruth is smart, loyal and caring but born into a family mired in criminality and futility. Her character arc is very much about whether it is possible to escape that legacy.

Ruth has opportunity after opportunity to escape her environment but the tragedy, of course, is that her history has made it impossible for her to actually take those opportunities. She is smart enough to open the door to escape but fundamentally unable to walk through it.

During the last season, every chain holding Ruth in place is cut one by one. She learns that Ben is dead and therefore there is no reason to wait for him to return. She begs Wyatt to leave with her and his refusal is almost immediately rendered moot by his murder. She attains money and a clean record. Rachel pleads with her to leave while also demonstrating that escape is possible.

Ruth has the money and the skills to go anywhere she wants but she can’t leave because at her core she cannot imagine another life. The woman who figured out how to control a casino cannot figure out how to get on a plane to somewhere else. She has no family left to chain her down but she is no freer. She can choose to leave Javi for another day but instead she chooses hillbilly family vengeance. She can choose to flee in the aftermath of Javi’s murder but instead remains easy to find in the only home that she has ever known.

Every time somebody asks Ruth where she might go and what she might do when she gets there, Ruth replies with some variation of “fuck if I know”.

Her freedom of action is limited to reshaping the family compound but even the boundaries of that transformation are made obvious by the continued presence of the crappy sofa.

Camilla kills Ruth against the backdrop of Ruth’s futility – the incomplete renovation of Ruth’s family home with the corpse of a Mexican hit man buried under the pool. The message is clear - you cannot change this place.

Ruth’s tragedy is that she despite all of her brains she remained just as stuck as every other generation of her family.

She could not leave without her family but the death of her family made it impossible for her to leave.

The parallel to the Byrde kids is striking. They too are given the chance to escape but in the end they are just as stuck. Jonah killing Mel is the final act that will close that door forever.
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What a post my man! Thank you.
 
I hated the ending. Honestly I can't say there was much I enjoyed about Part 2. Ruth dying was ok, and I think it needed to happen. Wasn't a fan at all of bringing Rachel back into the fold, although it was good to see Tuck. Nelson's death was wasted, and totally just blown over. Getting one cartel leader to take an FBI deal is believable. Getting two is a stretch. Getting three? You are really pushing it. The second part just felt really lazy.

How I would have ended it:
Charlotte should have died in the car accident. That makes Wendy finally lose it, and ends up in the mental hospital for real. Camila finds out the truth about Javi's death, and kidnaps Ruth. Marty and Jonah go to try and rescue Ruth, and Marty begs for Ruth's life. Camilla gives Marty the choice between Jonah or Ruth, as the death needs to be avenged. Marty says he knows what it is like to lose a child, and Camilla shoots Jonah out of anger, as she lost her only child. Now that Marty knows what it is like to be childless, he says that he is done with the cartel, and to forget about him moving their money. Camilla says that somethings are more important than money, and shoots Ruth. As she is about to shoot Marty, the cops break in and arrest them both.

Wendy lives out her days in the place where she always pretended that she needed to be. Marty goes to prison, dealing with the one thing he tried to fight the entire time. Losing his family. In the end Marty and Wendy were just pawns in the game, and not the King and Queen they tried to play.
 
Ruth has one of the funniest duck walks I have ever seen. I think they would frame her lower half out just cause it looked so funny. I didnt mind the ending. The show was about how money and evil usually win. I called it about Jonah at the beginning of the episode.
 
Just finished the last episode of the 4th season. Was putting it away for some reason.

What a stupid fucking season!
Huge dissapointment.
 
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fungi said:
Just finished the last episode of the 4th season. Was putting it away for some reason.

What a stupid fucking season!
Huge dissapontment.
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The last episode and ending of the show was such a let down
 
Has nothing to do with the main narrative whatsoever but love how Rachel makes a massive deal out of Marty forgetting about Tuck and him being jobless when she returns, followed by her running the Casino and forgetting about Tuck and not getting him a job.
 
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