International Rebellion brewing in the State Department about the Israel-Palestine policy

Should America's policy towards Israel change to include more the needs of Palestinians?


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Interesting article from the Huffington Post, according to which there's significant discontent inside the State Department regarding the US policy concerning Israel. The dissenting voices say it's irrelevant who's in charge, Dem or Rep, policy is mostly the same. this dissent has apparently been exacerbated by the latest events in Palestine.

"Exclusive: ‘Mutiny Brewing’ Inside State Department Over Israel-Palestine Policy
Morale is low, and some staffers are preparing to formally express their opposition to President Joe Biden's approach, officials told HuffPost. President Joe Biden’s approach to the ongoing violence in Israel and Palestine is fueling mounting tensions at the U.S. government agency most involved in foreign policy: the State Department.

Officials told HuffPost that Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his most senior advisers are overlooking widespread internal frustration. Some department staff said they feel as if Blinken and his team are uninterested in their own experts’ advice as they focus on supporting Israel’s expanding operation in Gaza, where the Palestinian militant group Hamas is based.

“There’s basically a mutiny brewing within State at all levels,” one State Department official said.

Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel, fighting in the region has killed more than 4,000 people, and Israel is preparing a ground invasion of Gaza that is expected to claim tens of thousands of additional lives.

Biden and Blinken say they want to help Israel decisively defeat Hamas, but that they do not want to see suffering among ordinary Gazans or a broader regional conflict. Both have recently visited Israel, and Blinken is prioritizing an attempt to open the Gaza-Egypt border to allow humanitarian aid into the besieged region and let some civilians out.

Two officials told HuffPost that diplomats are preparing what’s called a “dissent cable,” a document criticizing American policy that goes to the agency’s leaders through a protected internal channel.

Such cables are seen within the State Department as consequential statements of serious disagreement at key historical moments. The dissent channel was established amid deep internal conflict during the Vietnam War, and diplomats have since then used it to warn that the U.S. is making dangerous and self-defeating choices abroad.

The cable would come in the wake of Josh Paul, a veteran State Department official, announcing his resignation on Wednesday. After more than a decade of working on arms deals, he said, he could not morally support the U.S.’s moves to supply Israel’s war effort.

“In the last 24 hours, I’ve been getting an immense amount of outreach from colleagues... with really encouraging words of support and a lot of people saying they feel the same way and it’s very difficult for them,” said Paul, whose departure was first reported by HuffPost.

Paul described that as surprising: “My expectation was that no one would want to touch me with a 10-foot barge pole... because of the sensitivity of anything to do with Israel.”

Contacted for comment for this story on Thursday, a State Department representative directed HuffPost to remarks earlier in the day from agency spokesperson Matthew Miller.

“One of the strengths of this department is that we do have people with different opinions. We encourage them to make their opinions known,” Miller said in those remarks. “It, of course, is the president that sets policy, but we encourage everyone, even when they disagree with our policy, to let... their leadership know.”

“Secretary Blinken has spoken to this on a number of occasions, when he’s said that he welcomes people exercising the dissent channel,” he went on. “He finds it useful to get conflicting voices that may differ from his opinion. He takes it seriously, and it causes him to reflect on his own thinking in terms of policymaking.”

Biden and Blinken have publicly spoken of both Israel’s right to defend itself and their expectation that Israel will “abide by all international law,” Miller said.
“Multiple officials said they have heard colleagues talk about quitting.”

Key decisions are made at the highest level by Biden, Blinken and a handful of others. But rank-and-file State Department officials are involved in an array of other important and controversial elements of the American response to the Israeli-Palestinian violence.

On Wednesday, the U.S. mission to the United Nations ― a State office ― vetoed a U.N. resolution backed by many countries that condemned all violence against civilians, including by Hamas, and endorsed humanitarian aid for Gaza. State will also help administer the additional military aid for Israel and humanitarian assistance for Palestinians that Biden has authorized.

State Department staff are trying to simultaneously conduct delicate diplomacy, respond to calls from Congress to demonstrate huge support for Israel and regard for Palestinian lives, and manage global outrage over the impression that the U.S. is providing cover for excessive Israeli force.

Counterparts in Arab governments are telling State Department officials the U.S. is at risk of losing support in their region for a generation, a U.S. official told HuffPost.


It’s unclear whether Blinken — who returned to Washington on Wednesday after a five-day trip across the Middle East, during which he met with officials in seven countries — understands the crisis of morale in his department.

“There’s a sense within the workforce that the secretary doesn’t see it or doesn’t care,” a State Department official said, saying that the feeling extends to high-ranking figures at the agency. “And it’s almost certain he’s not aware of just how bad the workforce dynamics are. It’s really quite bad.”

The negativity is surfacing in a variety of ways. One official described peers as “depressed and angry about it all,” while another said some staff are experiencing “resignation.” That official recalled a colleague in tears during a meeting over their view “that U.S. policy statements emphasized support for Israel over the lives of Palestinians.”

Senior State Department officials have privately discouraged the agency from using three specific phrases in public statements, HuffPost revealed last week: “de-escalation/ceasefire,” “end to violence/bloodshed” and “restoring calm.”

In one office, a manager told their team that they know staff with extensive international experience are unhappy with Biden’s plan ― particularly the sense that the U.S. will do little to ensure Israeli restraint ― but they have little chance of changing it, an official present at the meeting said.

Multiple officials said they have heard colleagues talk about quitting as Paul did. One U.S. official described Paul’s decision as a shock and a major loss for the department.

The severity of the language in the dissent cable, and the number of State Department officials who sign it, will offer a picture of how alarmed staffers are at America’s response to the situation in Gaza and how broad the disagreement with Biden’s policy is ― and could determine whether it actually inspires a change in course.

Such cables often attract dozens or even hundreds of signatures, and the dissent channel is seen as a vital way to elevate opposing views without fear of retaliation because State’s policies bar retaliation against those who use it.

“I think it does make a difference to senior leadership,” Paul said.

But the process has been under threat this year, as House Republicans have pushed to access a dissent cable prepared amid Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan.

“The efforts to obtain the Afghanistan dissent cable by Congress do make it more difficult to talk about dissent cables in general, and do make some people think twice,” Paul said.

Global affairs professionals, particularly those with ties to the Muslim-majority world who worry about being targeted, have long been concerned about being seen as taking a stand on Israel-Palestine.

That anxiety has often affected policymaking, according to Sarah Harrison, a former Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security official now at the nonprofit Crisis Group.

“This is an environment that has been cultivated by Democratic and Republican administrations alike,” Harrison recently wrote on X. “If you work in the federal government and question anything Israel does you are sidelined and silenced.”


Staff across the Biden administration have told HuffPost they are experiencing a chilling effect at work. One person said there was “a culture of silence” around expressing their views on Israel-Palestine, and another said they felt “shame” at working within the U.S. government at this moment.

Some State Department staffers place particular blame for the bubbling discontent on Blinken’s deputy chief of staff for policy.

Tom Sullivan ― a powerful figure who is the brother of Biden’s top national security adviser, Jake Sullivan ― has “consistently overruled” the idea of greater outreach from the secretary to State Department personnel, one official said.

In high-level meetings, Tom Sullivan usually focuses on asking what Israel wants or highlighting its needs ― upsetting colleagues who feel the priority in crafting a plan for support should be on U.S. interests, a U.S. official told HuffPost.

Staffers do not feel comfortable challenging Sullivan because of his brother’s rank, the official continued.

On Thursday evening, Blinken sent out an all-staff message reviewing State Department contributions to his trip. HuffPost obtained the note.

“We asked a lot of you. And once again, under tremendous pressure, you delivered,” the secretary wrote. “I know that, for many of you, this time has not only been challenging professionally, but personally ... You are not alone. We are here for you.”

“Let us also be sure to sustain and expand the space for debate and dissent that makes our policies and our institution better,” the message continued."

Exclusive: ‘Mutiny Brewing’ Inside State Department Over Israel-Palestine Policy | HuffPost Latest News



the replies to the author's tweet seem to indicate a strong preference towards the NO of the thread poll.
 
Read the entire post. It read like a typical article about office politics in Foggy Bottom. But, seeing that the crux of this issue is nepotism, that threw me for a loop.

Other than being Jake's brother, what's Tom Sullivan's qualifications for being on the seventh floor?
 
Read the entire post. It read like a typical article about office politics in Foggy Bottom. But, seeing that the crux of this issue is nepotism, that threw me for a loop.

Other than being Jake's brother, what's Tom Sullivan's qualifications for being on the seventh floor?
i mean, nepotism is perhaps a wrong word in this case. these are the new administrative nobility. bread since childhood to occupy administration functions within the government, in times of plenty, or shift to the usual CFR/Brookings revolving door ecosystem.
they're soldiers of the status quo, whatever that may be.

Also, reminder that Jake said, a few days before the Hamas attack, that the region was quieter than it has ever been. is he not given the info that appears to have already been circulating in the intelligence sector? The National Security Advisor?
 
Gotta say, much of that article reminds me of the culture at Main State during Tillerson's time as Sec State. The complaints from HQ was that he brought in his own team and refused to listen to those with 20+ years of experience as FSOs in regards to the reality of how things are.

At some point, Sec State should be an actual current or former FSO.

With that said, all American diplomats know two things:

1. You do not make policy.
2. You simply report what's going on to those that do make policy.
 
Gotta say, much of that article reminds me of the culture at Main State during Tillerson's time as Sec State. The complaints from HQ was that he brought in his own team and refused to listen to those with 20+ years of experience as FSOs in regards to the reality of how things are.

At some point, Sec State should be an actual current or former FSO.

With that said, all American diplomats know two things:

1. You do not make policy.
2. You simply report what's going on to those that do make policy.
usually it works well when a politician of standing and clout inside his own political party becomes secretary, and uses the entire strength of the diplomatic corps under him.
when it DOESNT work is when there's some know-it-all politician that disconsiders the diplomats, locks himself in the office with a coterie of ass kissers, and proceeds to dismantle what the diplomats have worked years for, like Tillerson, Pompeo, maybe even the current one, who i consider an abysmal secretary of state.
 
I would say US policy should be more critical of Israel and Zionism in general
Certainly have a more nuanced approach. Israel has a right to exist, but it doesn't have the right to enact apartheid measures nor genocide. Hamas leaders need to be taken into custody and a two-state system needs to be negotiated.
 
Certainly have a more nuanced approach. Israel has a right to exist, but it doesn't have the right to enact apartheid measures nor genocide. Hamas leaders need to be taken into custody and a two-state system needs to be negotiated.


Fully agree but please explain how you do the bolded? Considering Hamas are radical, suicidal Muslims who will gladly wipe out anyone who comes near them to arrest them along with anyone else in the vicinty, and themselves?
 
Interesting article from the Huffington Post, according to which there's significant discontent inside the State Department regarding the US policy concerning Israel. The dissenting voices say it's irrelevant who's in charge, Dem or Rep, policy is mostly the same. this dissent has apparently been exacerbated by the latest events in Palestine.

"Exclusive: ‘Mutiny Brewing’ Inside State Department Over Israel-Palestine Policy
Morale is low, and some staffers are preparing to formally express their opposition to President Joe Biden's approach, officials told HuffPost. President Joe Biden’s approach to the ongoing violence in Israel and Palestine is fueling mounting tensions at the U.S. government agency most involved in foreign policy: the State Department.

Officials told HuffPost that Secretary of State Antony Blinken and his most senior advisers are overlooking widespread internal frustration. Some department staff said they feel as if Blinken and his team are uninterested in their own experts’ advice as they focus on supporting Israel’s expanding operation in Gaza, where the Palestinian militant group Hamas is based.

“There’s basically a mutiny brewing within State at all levels,” one State Department official said.

Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel, fighting in the region has killed more than 4,000 people, and Israel is preparing a ground invasion of Gaza that is expected to claim tens of thousands of additional lives.

Biden and Blinken say they want to help Israel decisively defeat Hamas, but that they do not want to see suffering among ordinary Gazans or a broader regional conflict. Both have recently visited Israel, and Blinken is prioritizing an attempt to open the Gaza-Egypt border to allow humanitarian aid into the besieged region and let some civilians out.

Two officials told HuffPost that diplomats are preparing what’s called a “dissent cable,” a document criticizing American policy that goes to the agency’s leaders through a protected internal channel.

Such cables are seen within the State Department as consequential statements of serious disagreement at key historical moments. The dissent channel was established amid deep internal conflict during the Vietnam War, and diplomats have since then used it to warn that the U.S. is making dangerous and self-defeating choices abroad.

The cable would come in the wake of Josh Paul, a veteran State Department official, announcing his resignation on Wednesday. After more than a decade of working on arms deals, he said, he could not morally support the U.S.’s moves to supply Israel’s war effort.

“In the last 24 hours, I’ve been getting an immense amount of outreach from colleagues... with really encouraging words of support and a lot of people saying they feel the same way and it’s very difficult for them,” said Paul, whose departure was first reported by HuffPost.

Paul described that as surprising: “My expectation was that no one would want to touch me with a 10-foot barge pole... because of the sensitivity of anything to do with Israel.”

Contacted for comment for this story on Thursday, a State Department representative directed HuffPost to remarks earlier in the day from agency spokesperson Matthew Miller.

“One of the strengths of this department is that we do have people with different opinions. We encourage them to make their opinions known,” Miller said in those remarks. “It, of course, is the president that sets policy, but we encourage everyone, even when they disagree with our policy, to let... their leadership know.”

“Secretary Blinken has spoken to this on a number of occasions, when he’s said that he welcomes people exercising the dissent channel,” he went on. “He finds it useful to get conflicting voices that may differ from his opinion. He takes it seriously, and it causes him to reflect on his own thinking in terms of policymaking.”

Biden and Blinken have publicly spoken of both Israel’s right to defend itself and their expectation that Israel will “abide by all international law,” Miller said.
“Multiple officials said they have heard colleagues talk about quitting.”

Key decisions are made at the highest level by Biden, Blinken and a handful of others. But rank-and-file State Department officials are involved in an array of other important and controversial elements of the American response to the Israeli-Palestinian violence.

On Wednesday, the U.S. mission to the United Nations ― a State office ― vetoed a U.N. resolution backed by many countries that condemned all violence against civilians, including by Hamas, and endorsed humanitarian aid for Gaza. State will also help administer the additional military aid for Israel and humanitarian assistance for Palestinians that Biden has authorized.

State Department staff are trying to simultaneously conduct delicate diplomacy, respond to calls from Congress to demonstrate huge support for Israel and regard for Palestinian lives, and manage global outrage over the impression that the U.S. is providing cover for excessive Israeli force.

Counterparts in Arab governments are telling State Department officials the U.S. is at risk of losing support in their region for a generation, a U.S. official told HuffPost.


It’s unclear whether Blinken — who returned to Washington on Wednesday after a five-day trip across the Middle East, during which he met with officials in seven countries — understands the crisis of morale in his department.

“There’s a sense within the workforce that the secretary doesn’t see it or doesn’t care,” a State Department official said, saying that the feeling extends to high-ranking figures at the agency. “And it’s almost certain he’s not aware of just how bad the workforce dynamics are. It’s really quite bad.”

The negativity is surfacing in a variety of ways. One official described peers as “depressed and angry about it all,” while another said some staff are experiencing “resignation.” That official recalled a colleague in tears during a meeting over their view “that U.S. policy statements emphasized support for Israel over the lives of Palestinians.”

Senior State Department officials have privately discouraged the agency from using three specific phrases in public statements, HuffPost revealed last week: “de-escalation/ceasefire,” “end to violence/bloodshed” and “restoring calm.”

In one office, a manager told their team that they know staff with extensive international experience are unhappy with Biden’s plan ― particularly the sense that the U.S. will do little to ensure Israeli restraint ― but they have little chance of changing it, an official present at the meeting said.

Multiple officials said they have heard colleagues talk about quitting as Paul did. One U.S. official described Paul’s decision as a shock and a major loss for the department.

The severity of the language in the dissent cable, and the number of State Department officials who sign it, will offer a picture of how alarmed staffers are at America’s response to the situation in Gaza and how broad the disagreement with Biden’s policy is ― and could determine whether it actually inspires a change in course.

Such cables often attract dozens or even hundreds of signatures, and the dissent channel is seen as a vital way to elevate opposing views without fear of retaliation because State’s policies bar retaliation against those who use it.

“I think it does make a difference to senior leadership,” Paul said.

But the process has been under threat this year, as House Republicans have pushed to access a dissent cable prepared amid Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan.

“The efforts to obtain the Afghanistan dissent cable by Congress do make it more difficult to talk about dissent cables in general, and do make some people think twice,” Paul said.

Global affairs professionals, particularly those with ties to the Muslim-majority world who worry about being targeted, have long been concerned about being seen as taking a stand on Israel-Palestine.

That anxiety has often affected policymaking, according to Sarah Harrison, a former Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security official now at the nonprofit Crisis Group.

“This is an environment that has been cultivated by Democratic and Republican administrations alike,” Harrison recently wrote on X. “If you work in the federal government and question anything Israel does you are sidelined and silenced.”


Staff across the Biden administration have told HuffPost they are experiencing a chilling effect at work. One person said there was “a culture of silence” around expressing their views on Israel-Palestine, and another said they felt “shame” at working within the U.S. government at this moment.

Some State Department staffers place particular blame for the bubbling discontent on Blinken’s deputy chief of staff for policy.

Tom Sullivan ― a powerful figure who is the brother of Biden’s top national security adviser, Jake Sullivan ― has “consistently overruled” the idea of greater outreach from the secretary to State Department personnel, one official said.

In high-level meetings, Tom Sullivan usually focuses on asking what Israel wants or highlighting its needs ― upsetting colleagues who feel the priority in crafting a plan for support should be on U.S. interests, a U.S. official told HuffPost.

Staffers do not feel comfortable challenging Sullivan because of his brother’s rank, the official continued.

On Thursday evening, Blinken sent out an all-staff message reviewing State Department contributions to his trip. HuffPost obtained the note.

“We asked a lot of you. And once again, under tremendous pressure, you delivered,” the secretary wrote. “I know that, for many of you, this time has not only been challenging professionally, but personally ... You are not alone. We are here for you.”

“Let us also be sure to sustain and expand the space for debate and dissent that makes our policies and our institution better,” the message continued."

Exclusive: ‘Mutiny Brewing’ Inside State Department Over Israel-Palestine Policy | HuffPost Latest News



the replies to the author's tweet seem to indicate a strong preference towards the NO of the thread poll.


The executive branch needs to support Israel so it can bundle that support with Ukrainian aid (for which authority, if not yet funds, have expired) - if US aid to Ukraine dries up, Europe will follow and Russia could win.
 
The executive branch needs to support Israel so it can bundle that support with Ukrainian aid (for which authority, if not yet funds, have expired) - if US aid to Ukraine dries up, Europe will follow and Russia could win.
this doesn't seem like it will work more than once.
give 50 billion to ukraine or israel doesn't get 500 million?
you can't seriously push that as financing strategy.
 
Fully agree but please explain how you do the bolded? Considering Hamas are radical, suicidal Muslims who will gladly wipe out anyone who comes near them to arrest them along with anyone else in the vicinty, and themselves?
That question is way above my pay grade and apparently above anyone else's. I agree it's the million dollar question. I just don't think it's something that could be compromised on. It would obviously be a long-term effort that could take several years. It would require talks of a two-state solution with the agreement that members of Hamas could not govern.

At worst you let Hamas officials flee to Iran and make no earnest to repatriate them. Give them an out to get what you want. Iran looks like winners internally for sticking it to Israel through supporting Palestinians. Hezbollah has no reason to come in at that point. Israel saves lives of their population but Netanyahu loses domestic political support so ultimately that's the biggest losing point, but Israel has dug themselves this hole.

Next time Middle East peace talks occur, Palestine needs to be invited to the discussions. I'm looking at you, Jared Kushner (I'm not accusing the Renaissance as being Jared Kushner hehe)
 
Well they don't make policy they carry out the policy voters support through the people they elect.

So if they don't like it man up and hand in your resignation.
 
this doesn't seem like it will work more than once.
give 50 billion to ukraine or israel doesn't get 500 million?
you can't seriously push that as financing strategy.

I think that’s what’s being proposed - it’s worked countless times before

Edit: I suppose it needs to be done once with enough to get through next years election - then it’s the new guys problem
 
In high-level meetings, Tom Sullivan usually focuses on asking what Israel wants or highlighting its needs ― upsetting colleagues who feel the priority in crafting a plan for support should be on U.S. interests, a U.S. official told HuffPost.

Title is a little clickbaity. There's always some baseline level of frustration with department heads who are political appointees from the actual SME workforce in government. That's nothing new. I did find this line interesting though. US interests in that specific area of the sandbox is essentially centered around the Suez Canal where 12% of all global trade passes through. Egypt runs it and Israel is its security guarantor along with being the location of a potential supplemental route (the proposed Ben Gurion Canal project). Seems to me that we have been in constant communication with both Egypt and Israel throughout this current crisis. And no, we are not really considering the needs of the Palestinians besides the usual platitudes. That's just geopolitical reality. Sucks for the Palestinians, but they're just not important enough to be a factor. Same thing goes for the Kurds, Armenians, Tibetans and a whole list of other ethnicities/groups of people.
 
The executive branch needs to support Israel so it can bundle that support with Ukrainian aid (for which authority, if not yet funds, have expired) - if US aid to Ukraine dries up, Europe will follow and Russia could win.
Ukraine is going to lose no matter what.
 
i don't think the "they don't make policy" is going to cut it for long.
the generations coming are very activist in their view of the world.
and as a politician you simply CANNOT work as a secretary of state if the diplomats aren't on your side. nothing would get done.
The person that wrote that op-ed became an ambassador after it was published.

The activists tend not to make it up the ladder at State. They will stay at a mid-level position in a country that isn't a high priority, or be sent to a massive embassy where they will be one of hundreds of FSOs. Or, they leave their job.
 
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I don't know what to make of the article, with it's anonymous sources. I can imagine though that some members of the State Department want to see a different policy put in place.

I'd like to see peace between the Palestinian people/Hamas and Israel. Sadly Hamas has stated they will not allow for a peace deal with Israel. As long as Hamas in in power there will be no peace. There will be no two state solution as a number of people believe possible. Sadly too killing Israel's makes Hamas a lot of money. I'm guessing Hamas doesn't want to give up that funding from the west.

I've read that there are around 40,000 Hamas armed fighting forces in Gaza. They are located in tunnels under Gaza. Trying to defeat the Hamas rapists, murders, is going to be a difficult task to say the least.

Biden Asks Billions for Victims of Hamas Attack… To Be Sent to Hamas
"Biden’s Deputy National Security Advisor couldn’t explain how the US can prevent Hamas from taking control of the goods"

https://www.frontpagemag.com/biden-asks-billions-for-victims-of-hamas-attack-to-be-sent-to-hamas/
 
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