Ok. Won’t lie, I thought he went limp. Replay, he repositioned his hand. Herb wanted vocal response from someone getting his jaw cranked. Really? He didn’t check his arm for a physical response until AFTER calling the fight. He very well may have went out, but when the fight started a casual in the room was wondering how long herb had been around, my response was “WHY is he still around” sure as shit he fucked up again. Personally I believe this was a robbery, at the very least it was prooof that the worst ref in the sport needs to be removed. If you think someone is being chocked out, why in the world would you ask for a verbal response?