International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

Btw Orban already is using this against Ukraine in EU political scene....
And worst thing that Ukraine with their playing with consular services had get Estonia in angry mode...and in the same time are asking them money and weapons...
Maybe Ukr will not get next batch from 🇪🇪.....and about money there too might be fun. Additionally Ukraine wants warrant letters for some loans....
 
I should add that ukrainian government most likely doesn't cares how seriously they had damaged Ukraine's reputation in Estonia ....their mentality and mindset always was : if country does have embassy/ consulate in Estonia, then consular services are provided.
Otherwise such country isn't assumed as...functioning country....
 
In worst scenario Estonian parliament might allow Ukr citizens living in Estonia denounce Ukr citizenship without taking in account Ukr opinions, laws or demands....and issue them stateless person status....BTW then naturalization process too will be faster and Ukraine never will see these guys and uncles.
In worst scenario case...I hope that this will not happen.
 
There also is reality that Putin had prepared special application forms for Ukr citizens who does wants to get Russia's citizenship& passport. For them process is quick and easy.
Estonia doesn't ban refugees to leave country and some transport to Russia does exist so they might travel to Russia and fill application formulars for Rus citizenship.
 
Russia today had installed in dumbass area next batch with reinforcement, size approx like 1 tank brigade and 1 motor rifle brigade....sadly.
 
SandisLL said:
There also is reality that Putin had prepared special application forms for Ukr citizens who does wants to get Russia's citizenship& passport. For them process is quick and easy.
Estonia doesn't ban refugees to leave country and some transport to Russia does exist so they might travel to Russia and fill application formulars for Rus citizenship.
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Not sure if would be best thing to do considering you never know where Putin is looking for next wave of meat to send in Ukraine

Would be tragic irony (and some karma) if they ran to Russia to duck their duty of serve as ukranian soldiers only to be forced to fight on same front against ukranians

But probably Putin is smarter and will use them as example of decent life to show ukranians that surrend could be more desirable outcome than war, he can likely find meat elsewhere
 
Bacco said:
Not sure if would be best thing to do considering you never know where Putin is looking for next wave of meat to send in Ukraine

Would be tragic irony (and some karma) if they ran to Russia to duck their duty of serve as ukranian soldiers only to be forced to fight on same front against ukranians

But probably Putin is smarter and will use them as example of decent life to show ukranians that surrend could be more desirable outcome than war, he can likely find meat elsewhere
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Yup.
And you are correct : in occupied areas Putin is conducting intensive campaigns : offering Ukr citizens to fill formulars in order to get russian citizenship.
More funny that passports are issued faster than ...for example in Moscow....and even faster than for example for Russian citizens in Moscow .

Putin also is offering to work in this special operation. While now he is using money as carrot in order to hire ppl.
 
Btw for me doesn't likes some pro Ukr obsession about Crimea bridge and also insisting that west fears russia damn a lot, critique about some supplies too makes me ...vomit sense....

1. Bad United States had supplied just old 165 km range ATACMS missiles with cluster warheads.

Damn idiotic critique: Ukr had claimed about helicopters airfields and radars close to frontline ....and jamming/ spoofing.
Since this 165 km range missile doesn't use GPS, Russia might jam till death, will be 0 impact.
Cos warhead is large, 950 submunitions , it is very effective on radars and airplanes, helicopters etc....
Ukr not statisfied.

Now some claims that bad west had supplied 300 km range missiles with cluster warheads....cos these will not be effective vs bridge...
Then why to cry in Pentagon about radars and airplanes located in range 180 km plus?
Cryed and get what had asked to be delivered.
 
What's your opinion guys on peace summit in Switzerland without Russia?
 
Nameless King said:
What's your opinion guys on peace summit in Switzerland without Russia?
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With or without Russia any peace talks are useless....absolutely. all this is to brainwash western mass media consumers.

Putin repeated that Special Military operation is going as had been planned and will be continued. This for Russian public in Russia.
And Putin on paper had annexed Kherson, Zaporozia , Luhansk and Donetsk oblastjs.
While de facto doesn't 100% any from these.
So will do all the best to get control in these.

All talks about peace are to convince ppl like you that assistance to Ukr might be reduced, delayed or stopped cos Russia is peaceful.

Putin can't step back otherwise he will be replaced with other monster. They does have replacement candidates and Putin might get real health problems and die...
 
While other nuances ofc might be negotiated, in order to save face ( and life ) in Russia he should deFacto annex oblastjs he had annexed on Paper.
 
Russia had lost 1 Su-34 and this isn't old junk. + with latest upgrades not allowed for export.

While bad news are that Russia had increased forces they are using and pressure ...on the ground and had in general a bit advanced....
 
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