School shootings

[DoomPatrol]

So the official count is in. We had 14 school shootings this year so far. What the fuck is going on? Last year there was around 65 shootings on campuses. I remember when Columbine was a crazy incident, now it seems to be happening all the time. In January, there was better odds of a school shooting occurring than not somewhere in America each school day.

What do you think this we can do to change this? If gun bans are off the table, how can we change this horrifying trend?

 

[loyalyolayal]

What school districts? Who did they vote for before I unleash my faux outrage.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Nothing is going to stop a determined shooter other than another armed individual.

Nothing.

End the prohibition against the carrying of arms in as many places as possible.

 

[nostradumbass]

If the shooters are minors, guns are already banned for them to buy, and they're in gun free zones.

 

[LMP]

I think there might be more due to having to deal with bullying through social media such as Facebook and texting. Used to home was a safe space. Now kids have access to each other all the time. Parents maybe more disconnected from there kids due to all the media we have access to through the advances in technology.

I was reading more kids are being exposed to porn at younger ages.

Shooting in schools have also become more normalized, so the stigma of using violence against one another may have also been lessened.

In short it's technology's fault, let's ban it.

 

[all caps]

Be good people and raise our kids to be good people.

 

[welcometohavoc]

So the official count is in. We had 14 school shootings this year so far. What the fuck is going on? Last year there was around 65 shootings on campuses. I remember when Columbine was a crazy incident, now it seems to be happening all the time. In January, there was better odds of a school shooting occurring than not somewhere in America each school day.

What do you think this we can do to change this? If gun bans are off the table, how can we change this horrifying trend?

Short of putting armed guards in every school, arming school officials, and installing metal detectors, how do you stop it?

Gun control doesn't even work when criminals are the main target, let alone the average disgruntled psycho high school student.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Also worth this forums consideration:

Weapons and drugs are still readily available in prisons. This means that even if we were to turn all of our society into a prison, we would still be unable to stamp out the presence of weapons or drugs.

 

[all caps]

How long are we gonna keep looking for someone or something else to fix us when the problem and the solution is us

 

[scoopj]

Ban schools.

 

[Jopious Extronimous]

Metal detectors and more security. If anyone's concerned with how it looks or what it will cost, tell me what the price of a kid dying at school is.

It's not a cure-all, but nothing is.

 

[LMP]

How long are we gonna keep looking for someone or something else to fix us when the problem and the solution is us

A lot of the problems start at home. Parents have to take an active role in teaching their children right and wrong. There are so many stories about young kids attacking their teachers when they get mad. This behavior if often accepted at home so it cares over to school.

Nobody is going to be able to stop people from killing one another. Even if guns weren't an issue people would still act out violently, but maybe not as often.

How do we stop people from being shitty parents? We can't force a parent to love their child and raise them to respect other people. Then those shitty kids grow up and often times produce shittier kids and the cycle continues.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Increase teleconference capabilities where it comes to online education. Not ideal but you're not going to reduce access to guns nor angst among teens.

Mandatory psych evaluations for students -- determine if you can predict red line cases

 

[LMP]

Increase teleconference capabilities where it comes to online education. Not ideal but you're not going to reduce access to guns nor angst among teens.

Mandatory psych evaluations for students -- determine if you can predict red line cases

There isn't enough people specializing in mental health to cover every kids getting a psych evaluation. I'm big on mental health and wish it were a big priority in this country, giving every kid a psych evaluation seems out of the question sadly.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Why? You can give every kid a standardized test as is, you can't craft a national personality evaluation and then weed out probable cases for further analysis from there?

There isn't enough people specializing in mental health to cover every kids getting a psych evaluation. I'm big on mental health and wish it were a big priority in this country, giving every kid a psych evaluation seems out of the question sadly.

 

[LMP]

Why? You can give every kid a standardized test as is, you can't craft a national personality evaluation and then weed out probable cases for further analysis from there?

Evaluating mental health isn't a standard test. You may get red flags, that upon further evaluation aren't there. The biggest hurdle is the time and lack of qualified people to evaluate the children. I do agree that it would be worth looking into though and investing in.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Evaluating mental health isn't a standard test. You may get red flags, that upon further evaluation aren't there. The biggest hurdle is the time and lack of qualified people to evaluate the children. I do agree that it would be worth looking into though and investing in.

Reread what I said -- I didn't say mental health evaluations are a standardized test, I said you already have the capacity to reach vast majority of students, so get a consortium to craft a personality "test" that will give insight to which students may be red lined cases and proceed from there with further evaluation. It's not a fix all -- but goes way beyond your suggestion of "end technology"

 

[NickNick]

I pretty much have to bend over with my cheeks spread to get into a sporting venue these days. How are kids getting guns into schools in the first place?

 

[hiphopnazi]

A big hurtle is access to information via the internet. I remember years ago a book, I think called The Anarchist Cookbook which had detailed instructions to create explosives, weapons etc. Kids can now just google such information with ease.

Limiting access to the internet is the last thing I'd do.

Also social media has it's issues.

 

[Gregolian]

Don't most schools in the cities, especially dangerous cities like LA, Detroit and stuff have metal detectors and shit?