STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER v.3 (Dragonlord's Review)

[Magooglie]

haha.

It just looks like resources come and go out of nowhere, no? In TLJ one of the bigger plotpoints is that they don't have enough fuel...that's some Star Trek concern, man- Star Wars never brought that sort of thing up. But if fuel is a concern, then who is gassing up Palps' fleet? And how much money does that cost?

I guess since he could use the Sith lightning as an EMP to kill the power on enemy ships, he can also charge them up like hybrids.

It's a big universe, apparently. Just because there's a shortage of something somewhere doesn't mean there isn't an abundance of it elsewhere.

Palps is the Elon Musk of Star Wars, always ahead of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if 10-12 is about him taking over Rey's body and giving birth to himself.

 

[Mr Mojo Lane]

Fell asleep through most of it

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

Personally, Star Wars was more than just movies I experienced/loved as a kid. I was pretty much Kyle Katarn in the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games as a young adult. I was dismembering Sith lords and storm troopers, fighting alongside Luke, and stealing death star plans, while being immersed in familiar and new locations. Through KOTOR games, I played myself during the old republic era, and played general in classic battles through a variety of strategy games. I stepped in the shoes of the most notable races/factions/characters in the classic Battlefront games.

It's an extended world that I've spent crazy hours of my life in, so it's an important property. Everyone has their own reason for loving this universe.

I hate what Kathleen Kennedy and Disney has allowed to happen to it, but thankfully a better regime is already in place

Yep I get that, I was the same in my own way. But that's where I think it ends. The originals are still great films to this day. We can rewatch them many time through childhood then again with our own kids. But this obsession with having to be given new material is just odd. It's not Lucas anymore. Its just money men churning out mass produced generic crap while pretending to be star wars.

 

[BisexualMMA]

But this obsession with having to be given new material is just odd. It's not Lucas anymore. Its just money men churning out mass produced generic crap while pretending to be star wars.

It's brutal the way Terminator and Star Wars have been sodomized. The last Terminator movie that was made because somebody had a story they truly deeply wanted to tell was Terminator 2, and with Star Wars, it's Revenge of the Sith or mayyyybe Rogue One.

Every single other movie was made because...well I guess it's time to make another one, the money's there. T3, T4, T5, TDarkFate, TFA, TLJ, Solo, TROS... Just the movie equivalent of a lips, eyelids and assholes pork sausage over and over again.

So you get these shit characters and shit stories. It's just brutal.

 

[Doomer]

Did they say Rey was the chosen one? Because in Rebels they say Luke i the chosen one.

The whole movie/trilogy is about her being the chosen one. Nothing need to be said, just see the movie and completely everything is clear.

What's important is what Lucas said... he even said it was always Anakin (Clone Wars is still canon and it has shown who Anakin truly is in episode Altar of Mortis, far beyond any Jedi or Sith ever and was chosen by The Father himself, the most powerful force user ever in canon SW universe). Now Lucas word is not important anymore, since it's not his anymore. Palpatine was alive, Luke was a joke of the highest order, Anakin saga became pointless and it was Rey who truly saved the day and ended Palpatine reign.
This new trilogy tried to continue story from the past, didn't want to start a new storyline. With TROS, what started from Episode 1 ended with Episode 9 and not with ROTJ.

 

[Smokes]

Cried when C-3PO said goodbye and laughed when I thought Rey Killed Chewie.


And not having him died for real pissed me to no end. What was the point of playing with the audience like that. Wasn't funny or emotional and no effect on the characters in any meaningful way

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

Any of you guys see this yet:

I hate this so much. It's made by somebody who doesn't understand the significance of that scene. "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" and Alec Guiness' smirk are the most important parts of that scene. The scene is perfect the way it is. The Darth Maul vs Obi Wan scene in Rebels is the best duel in Star Wars lore and is a great display of Obi Wan's style and the light vs dark. He uses Maul's rage against him and kills Maul with 1 strike.

 

[Amerikuracana]

The whole movie/trilogy is about her being the chosen one. Nothing need to be said, just see the movie and completely everything is clear.

What's important is what Lucas said... he even said it was always Anakin. Now Lucas word is not important anymore, since it's not his anymore. Palpatine was alive, Luke was a joke of the highest order, Anakin saga became pointless and it was Rey who truly saved the day and ended Palpatine reign.

But carried on his genes...

That's my big complaint. This movie was the best of the series, but there are, of course, things that could have been done better.

 

[Tabarnakos]

It's brutal the way Terminator and Star Wars have been sodomized. The last Terminator movie that was made because somebody had a story they truly deeply wanted to tell was Terminator 2, and with Star Wars, it's Revenge of the Sith or mayyyybe Rogue One.

Every single other movie was made because...well I guess it's time to make another one, the money's there. T3, T4, T5, TDarkFate, TFA, TLJ, Solo, TROS... Just the movie equivalent of a lips, eyelids and assholes pork sausage over and over again.

So you get these shit characters and shit stories. It's just brutal.

Terminator started going downhill Rise Of The Machines. But it look like a masterpiece compared to the other movies that came after it. The franchise is a huge pile of stinking shit now

It,s too bad because T1 and T2 were fantastic , especially T2.

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

Star Wars fucked up when it tried to turn Jedi into ninjas instead of samurai.

 

[Tabarnakos]

I hate this so much. It's made by somebody who doesn't understand the significance of that scene. "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" and Alec Guiness' smirk are the most important parts of that scene. The scene is perfect the way it is. The Darth Maul vs Obi Wan scene in Rebels is the best duel in Star Wars lore and is a great display of Obi Wan's style and the light vs dark. He uses Maul's rage against him and kills Maul with 1 strike.

I'm in the opposite camp. I think the remade scene is excellent and much more true to what a Obi Wan vs Vader 2 fight would look like

I have nothing against the original scene but honestly the fight look like crap even if it's a classic. It's like Obi Wan lost all his fighting skills or something. Yes he got older but getting older in Star Wars does not mean that you become a shit fighter (see Dooku , Yoda , Palpatine etc). I understand that back then they did not have the technology to have a duel with crazy stuff like Anakin vs Obi Wan in ROTS but Luke vs Vader in ESB is still a fantastic duel despite technology not being on par to what it is today.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

And not having him died for real pissed me to no end. What was the point of playing with the audience like that. Wasn't funny or emotional and no effect on the characters in any meaningful way

Because in the test screenings they had multiple deaths that people HATED, and Disney completely edited out OR edited them to be 'fake deaths.'

 

[ChucksGlassJaw]

I'm in the opposite camp. I think the remade scene is excellent and much more true to what a Obi Wan vs Vader 2 fight would look like

I have nothing against the original scene but honestly the fight look like crap even if it's a classic. It's like Obi Wan lost all his fighting skills or something. Yes he got older but getting older in Star Wars does not mean that you become a shit fighter (see Dooku , Yoda , Palpatine etc). I understand that back then they did not have the technology to have a duel with crazy stuff like Anakin vs Obi Wan in ROTS but Luke vs Vader in ESB is still a fantastic duel despite technology not being on par to what it is today.

The whole point is that scene has nothing to do with a "duel." The scene is about one dude finding peace and balance and the other being consumed with rage and hate. That's the point of Star Wars, not re-imagined light saber dancing. Samurai, not ninja. In the OG, Obi Wan doesn't even put up a fight. That's intentional.

 

[GSP_37]

Palp talked about healing with the force

"Learn to know the dark side of the Force, and you will be able to save your wife from certain death."

I thought that referred to reanimation or transferring consciousness rather than healing which happened in the Star Wars books.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Well he was in movie shape as he was doing Call of The Wild.


Would have redeemed the whole franchise if Baby Yoda was the reincarnated actual Yoda.




To be fair, the horses weren't actually in space. Or did you mean as a species in general?

Spaces horses in general - yeah I guess they weren't really horses but that is the image that is projected when watching.

And they used the Mando tv series and Baby Yoda to justify the healing's (to the casual fanbase).

And LOL at Kylo finally going to avenge his metaphorical castration in Epi 1 (of this series) and have rey defeated only to have it snatched from him by Space Mary Poppins (then get basically killed by then saved (ouch!) by mary rey).

 

[GSP_37]

I get ya though. It was just shoehorned into this movie. I guess we are to believe the year she had to train was enough to learn the healing powers.

Don't forget she salvaged the ancient Jedi books before ghost Yoda zapped them.

 

[GSP_37]

And yeah I want to know what Rey is gonna do now. So she destroyed every part of the Sith and now there will be no more Sith ever and yet she becomes a Jedi Guardian to protect and pass on the Jedi serects if she feels someone is Jedi or that Jedi are needed again in the Galaxy but without sith what kinda new threat would cause for the Jedi to rise again? Not cool to just have a bunch good guy running around without no one to fight

What's to stop another force sensitive bad guy from self teaching himself or self discovering Sith force powers?

 

[GSP_37]

I think none from the Star Wars Rebels characters or ship showed up. Or even Ahsoka. But according to reports, you can hear the voices of Ahsoka, Kanan Jarrus and other past Jedis in the ending fight.

Post #201 has a report of seeing Mando's Razor Crest and Rebels' Ghost ship.

 

[Smokes]

What's to stop another force sensitive bad guy from self teaching himself or self discovering Sith force powers?

Will there be anymore force sensitive people left. Everyone but Rey thinks it's all make believe. No one left to teach it other than Rey. So it would have to be THE ONE type dude to feel something strange and go looking for answers in sith or Jedi teachings but that sounds boring. You need a Master and and student and only way that happens now is if Rey pick some one and they turn like Count Dooku but he needed master to turn to. Mace learned the dark side by reading but without a Master he never turned full sith. You need that master to push to the dark side.

 

[GSP_37]

Will there be anymore force sensitive people left. Everyone but Rey thinks it's all make believe. No one left to teach it other than Rey. So it would have to be THE ONE type dude to feel something strange and go looking for answers in sith or Jedi teachings but that sounds boring. You need a Master and and student and only way that happens now is if Rey pick some one and they turn like Count Dooku but he needed master to turn to. Mace learned the dark side by reading but without a Master he never turned full sith. You need that master to push to the dark side.

I saw an article the other day that cited the one movie where Finn & Rose go to the casino planet and liberate the slave jockey children and Rose gave her Rebels ring or something to one kid who was force sensitive, but I didn't really get the impression he was when I saw the movie.

I'm sure the sky's the limit for the right person even without having a master. It's like real life where some can learn on their own via reading the instruction manual or trial and error and some absolutely need a human to explain every little thing to them multiple times.

The only Star Wars book I finished was Darth Bane 1 and even without knowing what the force was or having a Sith teacher, he could do things like forsee things to help him win at cards and make his abusive father die of heart attack.