The official Hip Hop thread v1: Bump in the whip edition

Discussion in 'Music Discussion (BAM'S Bieberverse)' started by Hyperglide, May 8, 2016.

  1. 21 Savage

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    listened to the track found it surprisingly good tbh i had zero idea who he was but i looked at some of his tracks and hes doing pretty good numbers. impressive to be a up and coming canadian rapper that big without the XO/OVO co-sign. im guessing by his sound that hes not from toronto either.

    and damn that sounds crazy bruh i hope u went mad
     
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    Yeah he's a social media wizard. He's been grinding hard for probably 10 years building a fan base. I remember how hyped he was when he was 16 and got his first KOTD battle. He got slaughtered but it made him work harder. Now he's got all of KOTD riding his nuts.
     
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    Young Scooter, Jesus there’s a name i haven’t heard in awhile. I just remember Gucci talking about him before Gucci went to jail.
     
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    The bass in this track should be banned from car systems worldwide

    Couldn't hear shiite grabbing groceries with this one



    The sarcasm in these lyrics is amazing
     
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    joyner should be banned from hip hop
     
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    why, you still mad about that racism track lol

    what a bunch of fragiles
     
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    lmao all his songs are bad
     
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    I meant to follow up from the other thread @RoosterShooter

    Some examples of good newer rap (Too bad there aren't many)









    Okay, well maybe The Reunion isn't that new.
     
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    These are all half a decade old.
     
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    <{1-13}>

    I'll take that as a yes, you were triggered by a pretty straightforward narrative-swap poem about racism

    Meanwhile he made ross cappiccioni



    And now you're going to need to lie to yourself to make yourself feel better by dismissing the rest of his tracks in a lump sum; keep us updated on how stretching to prove that goes for you



    Good luck with that
     
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    bro what are u talking about i literally could not give less of a fuck about his corny "im a racist" track its just another of 500 fake deep forgettable tracks hes put out. his entire discog is pathetic on god
     
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    "Ross Cappiccioni"
    "Keep It 100"

    are fake deep to you? get the fuck outta here with that salty fake sauce mate

    you sound like this is about some petty grudge you already had about him

    there's no way you're seriously mad at that meter variation across tons of his tracks

    maybe you hate lyrical rap styles, lyric longform combos brand new, nothing metronome or mumble or repetitive chant heavy like 80% of what's trending these days

    you honestly think kendrick lamar, 21 or lil pump, any of the rappers whose tracks he clowns on have better lyricism

    good luck going track vs track down the lyrics sheets on that one

    90% of what's big right now is essentially rap minimalism, less story-oriented more repeat-shamanic in vibe which is its own style absolutely, but far less complicated in execution or design than a lyrical rap style, which is definitely what Joyner does every track

    I'm not crazy about one or two tracks like any artist I listen to right now but there's no way you honestly believe his album's lyrics or production is sum total trash without some salty previous bias

    that doesn't sound substantiated by anything you've said yet

    specifics make arguments
     
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    See if you recognize anything repeat-shamanic from that post in 21 Savage's "Bank Account"



    Now look at how much more material Joyner fits into that beat



    The variation in that is 50 times more intricate than anything I've heard 21 savage ever do, ever. With the added bonus of not repeating "ready to gun ya down" 70 times in a row like bitchass filler

    [<cena1}

    I like minimalism in my music too, but that original sounds like it's begging to get the song over with so it can stop making any new bars

    I also like the part where 21 autotunes "75 hundred on a saint laurent" to sound like shit on purpose and then keeps rolling on it

    that's some intense trap level to intentionally autotune shit-on your own bars while going down on 50 rap cliches before you pass the 60 sec mark

    repeating bars 10 times in a row is not how you prove you belong in rap, never was
     
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    i havent listened to either song you mentioned but you can have two good tracks and still be qualified for the "entire discog is pathetic" statement. his remixes are so corny, hes on some "look how I murk those dumb trap mumblers' beats" its such a losers mentality and it simply doesnt work anymore, in 2017/18 you gotta craft your own song and just "rapping hard and fast" for the sake of it isnt impressive, we've already had hundreds of rappers who can do that. either you bring something new to the table or you're out.

    when you take away the facade of rapping fast, theres really not that much more substance to anything joyner is spitting than that of the ppl he criticises. fast rapping is played out and makes a song pretty much unlistenable, it has no aux value. i dont even fuck wit big sean like that but he pretty much ethered a lot of these youtube rappers:

    And I'm just not impressed by you nibbas rapping fast
    Who sound like one big asthma attack but trash when I’m rapping it back
    Who you put in your top five and claim they the savior of rap


    also dont like how the guy is so pretentious like this dude rly be getting on gucci gang/bank account type beats (most popular in the scene) and then talk about how hes too good to make a hit song like fuck off bro lmaoo

    these are the god tier lyrics ya'll are fawning over?

    What the fuck happened to Jay Electronica? I wonder if he still got it or not
    Whatever happened to Elzhi?
    Whatever happened to Meth? What happened to Beans? Whatever happened to Lauryn?
    What happened to Banks? Tell me what happened to Bleek
    What the fuck happened to Mos? What happened to Missy?
    Nibba, what happened to Ghost? Whatever happened to Cube?
    What up with Common? What the fuck, where did they go?
    Tell me what happened to Budden's, what about Luda?

    cmon bruh hes smothering the beat and doing it using cheap gimmicks while patting himself on the back for being so much better than these teen trap rappers lmao, at least the 21 song u can bump in the whip, or at the party, and just vibe out too
     
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    Cyhi's album is my album of 2017.







    Great year too - Joey Bada$$, Rapsody, Vince Staples, Tyler, Big Krit, Brockhampton - all killed it.
     
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    Big KRIT’s album was really fucking good, No dope on Sundays was also fucking dope.
     
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    it was good for sure. top 10. cant compete with Perfect Timing doe
     
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    this the best song of the decade

     

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