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[Lucas1980]

Thanks to white supremacy theft is the only modern reparations solution for our oppressed African American brothers and sisters. To oppose this is racist.


This is why we kneel.

Laughing..The funny thing is there's actually some muppets who go through life needing a crutch that actually think like this...Good Stuff.

 

[Siver!]

You're seriously going to whine about my reply being ignorant rhetoric after Sinister's original comment that I replied to?

What's dishonest about mentioning an entire genre of music that's built millionaires of the romanticization of drug dealers, etc.? I pretty clearly stated that this mysterious level of romanticization that is mentioned below is different for everyone. I never said country music didn't do the exact same thing.

There's nothing dishonest about my comment. You just disagree with it and have nothing to say in return otherwise.

I've got this great book called 'The Invention of Murder', and it's based on this idea that the Victorians sorta made crime-and-detection popular, not only in terms of stories, plays, and novels, but I'm sure you can already guess the trajectory for serious crimes in the UK ever since?

Pointing fingers at modern music, films or video games as responsible for the actions within a society is retarded.

I'm sorry if you weren't being dishonest by talking about rap, but I figured that was at least better than being called retarded, which is the natural alternative.

 

[spamking]

I've got this great book called 'The Invention of Murder', and it's based on this idea that the Victorians sorta made crime-and-detection popular, not only in terms of stories, plays, and novels, but I'm sure you can already guess the trajectory for serious crimes in the UK ever since?

Pointing fingers at modern music, films or video games as responsible for the actions within a society is retarded.

I'm sorry if you weren't being dishonest by talking about rap, but I figured that was at least better than being called retarded, which is the natural alternative.

You're cute dude. Continue to argue points I never made. As far as what is or isn't retarded goes, I'd say you're quite the expert since this entire comment of yours is exactly that. You can't even discuss the topic at hand. I never blamed rap music for the actions within society. I offered it as an example of romanticizing various criminal elements within society.

 

[Lucas1980]

You're seriously going to whine about my reply being ignorant rhetoric after Sinister's original comment that I replied to?

What's dishonest about mentioning an entire genre of music that's built millionaires of the romanticization of drug dealers, etc.? I pretty clearly stated that this mysterious level of romanticization that is mentioned below is different for everyone. I never said country music didn't do the exact same thing.

There's nothing dishonest about my comment. You just disagree with it and have nothing to say in return otherwis

People will just keep saying that the modern rap music in which these fatherless clowns actually name people they've killed isn't harming their culture so the usual suspects will just continue on being the usual suspects. And the liberal Prosecutors in the Democratic controlled cities will continue to let the burdens of society free.

 

[Siver!]

You're cute dude. Continue to argue points I never made. As far as what is or isn't retarded goes, I'd say you're quite the expert since this entire comment of yours is exactly that. You can't even discuss the topic at hand. I never blamed rap music for the actions within society. I offered it as an example of romanticizing various criminal elements within society.

"I brought up rap in a thread about criminality and mentioned that it romanticizes criminality FOR NO REASON AT ALL and it's clearly wrong to extrapolate further".

Yeah, nah.

 

[Barteh]

I've got this great book called 'The Invention of Murder', and it's based on this idea that the Victorians sorta made crime-and-detection popular, not only in terms of stories, plays, and novels, but I'm sure you can already guess the trajectory for serious crimes in the UK ever since?

Pointing fingers at modern music, films or video games as responsible for the actions within a society is retarded.

I'm sorry if you weren't being dishonest by talking about rap, but I figured that was at least better than being called retarded, which is the natural alternative.

Yeah it's a bit silly to say people are acting a certain way because of rap culture. I'd definitely say rap culture is a symptom of the problem though, but not a cause.

 

[spamking]

"I brought up rap in a thread about criminality and mentioned that it romanticizes criminality FOR NO REASON AT ALL and it's clearly wrong to extrapolate further".

Yeah, nah.

Wow. You really need help dude. You know this isn't true or are be very selective in what you read on here.

It was brought up as an example in a direct response solely focused on movies as the standard for romanticizing criminals.

You can't be this stupid.

 

[spamking]

Yeah it's a bit silly to say people are acting a certain way because of rap culture. I'd definitely say rap culture is a symptom of the problem though, but not a cause.

Rap was never brought up as a cause for how they act. That's something @Siver! invented in his own mind.

 

[Barteh]

Rap was never brought up as a cause for how they act. That's something @Siver! invented in his own mind.

I didn't really follow the whole convo, my response is just to one singular post.

 

[Teppodama]

Pointing fingers at modern music, films or video games as responsible for the actions within a society is retarded.

Music, Films and Video Games are a reflection of the mood of a society and indeed do influence a society's development. It's symbiotic and they reinforce each other. To try an argue otherwise is naive and disingenious. Its what you may hear terms like Voice of a Generation when it comes to a musical entertainer or critics talk about how a movie captures the feeling of a people, area, cultural moment, philosophical point. When video games with realistic or overly exaggerated violent elements trends as the most widely played and or anticipated what does that say about the tastes of audience.

Now, the argument can be made that these escapists entertainments can also act as a safety valve for societal angst and that may be true up to a point but after a certain level of saturation I believe they exert more of an acceptance and or desensitization to those extreme and violent elements.

The edge is pushed to gain attention which in turn becomes the norm requiring the edge to be pushed further out which in turn eventually becomes the norm...Sex sells and so does violence. If it sells enough, you'll get more of it.

 

[Siver!]

Wow. You really need help dude. You know this isn't true or are be very selective in what you read on here.

It was brought up as an example in a direct response solely focused on movies as the standard for romanticizing criminals.

You can't be this stupid.

Dude, your interjection in this thread was to say (to me) "if minorities are those most commonly committing these crimes... they will be attacked", despite the fact it's been made more than clear that this is propaganda.

You're being shown black Americans committing crimes by people who hate black Americans who are trying to convince you that black Americans are a threat to you and the country.

If a few posts down the line you're talking about black American culture, I couldn't care less what point you think you were trying to make.

You're gobbling down propaganda like that in this OP and then just trying to rationalize the fact that you're hating on a specific type of criminal for committing a specific time of crime while existing in a supposed culture that supposedly romanticizes it in a supposedly specific way.

I think you lost track of what points (plural) you were trying to make, and are now tied in so many knots you can't find your way out.

I'd suggest you start over.

 

[Siver!]

Music, Films and Video Games are a reflection of the mood of a society and indeed do influence a society's development. It's symbiotic and they reinforce each other. To try an argue otherwise is naive and disingenious. Its what you may hear terms like Voice of a Generation when it comes to a musical entertainer or critics talk about how a movie captures the feeling of a people, area, cultural moment, philosophical point. When video games with realistic or overly exaggerated violent elements trends as the most widely played and or anticipated what does that say about the tastes of audience.

Now, the argument can be made that these escapists entertainments can also act as a safety valve for societal angst and that may be true up to a point but after a certain level of saturation I believe they exert more of an acceptance and or desensitization to those extreme and violent elements.

The edge is pushed to gain attention which in turn becomes the norm requiring the edge to be pushed further out which in turn eventually becomes the norm...Sex sells and so does violence. If it sells enough, you'll get more of it.

Seems like a very reasonable assessment, I'd say they absolutely are a reflection (a journal, perhaps) of a society.

For me, though, the 70's and 80's produced more extreme media (film, music, whatever) than anything we have today - even though video games specifically are more realistic than they used to be, I don't think they're as extreme as some of the crazy shit that came out in that era.

I think beyond the pretty accurate narratives in your post, things have also been reined in quite a bit, particularly on the violence side of things.

On the sex side, the prevalence of porn on the internet has pushed that shit as far as it's ever been, I imagine.

 

[Teppodama]

Seems like a very reasonable assessment, I'd say they absolutely are a reflection (a journal, perhaps) of a society.

For me, though, the 70's and 80's produced more extreme media (film, music, whatever) than anything we have today - even though video games specifically are more realistic than they used to be, I don't think they're as extreme as some of the crazy shit that came out in that era.

I think beyond the pretty accurate narratives in your post, things have also been reined in quite a bit, particularly on the violence side of things.

On the sex side, the prevalence of porn on the internet has pushed that shit as far as it's ever been, I imagine.

Personally, I think the issue is a combined one of continues escalation in depictions of violence, dialogue continually telling the listener about how everything is shit and its someone else's fault, prevalence of psychatric drugs to stablize every element of ones emotional life and a general loss of societal/group cohesion. People increasingly feel cast adrift which breeds sadness, resentment, anger, fear, etc.

A whole generation is being taught to mistrust and blame their neighbor for any variety of personal ills and misfortune without any push for an accompanying introspection, personal growth or personal responsibility for one's own future and actions.

 

[spamking]

Dude, your interjection in this thread was to say (to me) "if minorities are those most commonly committing these crimes... they will be attacked", despite the fact it's been made more than clear that this is propaganda.

"IF" . . . last time I checked that word exists and means something when added to a sentence.

You're being shown black Americans committing crimes by people who hate black Americans who are trying to convince you that black Americans are a threat to you and the country.

Wow. Talk about propaganda.

If a few posts down the line you're talking about black American culture, I couldn't care less what point you think you were trying to make.

My comment mentioned rap music. It wasn't about "black American culture". It was a direct response to another poster, but you continue to ignore that by pushing this idea that I'm falling prey to the propaganda.

You're gobbling down propaganda like that in this OP and then just trying to rationalize the fact that you're hating on a specific type of criminal for committing a specific time of crime while existing in a supposed culture that supposedly romanticizes it in a supposedly specific way.

Outside of mentioning if a group commits and act they would be attacked where did I mention anything that might be considered hating anyone?

I think you lost track of what points (plural) you were trying to make, and are now tied in so many knots you can't find your way out.

I'd suggest you start over.

Don't try to apply your refusal to understand the things I posted as me tying myself in knots.

You've chosen to be very selective in your self-righteousness here. So spare me.

I've responded to specific comments. You decided to take some liberty with what I've said to divert away from the points being made and are now playing dumb trying to make it look like I don't know the content of my own posts.

Can't say I'm shocked you aren't able to catch on to what's being said here since you've previously complained about me breaking down your posts to address each comment directly. Maybe you'll actually get it this time.

But . . . just so we're clear. I don't hate blacks. I hate criminals. I hate the people who make excuses for them. I hate the people who are supposed to punish them but refuse to do so.