Time to start talking with our money

You’re aware of why werdum asked to be released?

Do you believe the 3 experts who submitted statements to csac are lying? If so, why?

I don't believe them because I've asked someone I know who works within the Canadian Olympic Weightlifting program about turinabol and it's half life. For Jon Jones to have trace amounts in his blood after 15 months is impossible. There are athletes who've test positive for it at the Olympic level, go clean, and never test positive for it again. Even in trace amounts.

Just because three specialists say something doesn't mean it's true. Look how many are paid in the civil law system to say whatever the client wants.

If you are buying the excuse from Dana and crew, I have an amazing real estate opportunity for you. Some would say it's a "golden" one. I have a bridge in the San Fransisco Bay I'm getting rid of. I just can't maintain it anymore. Lots of revenue from tolls on both side..
 
And he’ll still beat up your favorite fighters while making over a million for it.

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Does Jones pay you some of those millions to shill this hard for him?

Embarrassing for you if that’s not the case.
 
I haven't bought a ppv from the UFC in at least 5-6 years. Me and my buddies used to get together and buy them all the time. This was when they didn't have as many PPVs as they do now per year. The cards were much more stacked too (it seemed at the time of the PPV) than most PPV cards nowadays.

Plus you are just coming to the conclusion that Dana doesn't give a fuck about the fans? He has been like this for many many of years and has constantly shitted on the fans. Dude is a fucking joke and his mom named him after a woman. Go figure.
 
I don't believe them because I've asked someone I know who works within the Canadian Olympic Weightlifting program about turinabol and it's half life. For Jon Jones to have trace amounts in his blood after 15 months is impossible. There are athletes who've test positive for it at the Olympic level, go clean, and never test positive for it again. Even in trace amounts.

Just because three specialists say something doesn't mean it's true. Look how many are paid in the civil law system to say whatever the client wants.

If you are buying the excuse from Dana and crew, I have an amazing real estate opportunity for you. Some would say it's a "golden" one. I have a bridge in the San Fransisco Bay I'm getting rid of. I just can't maintain it anymore. Lots of revenue from tolls on both side..
Why don't other fighters keep popping dirty like Jon? He can't be the only who uses turniabol, so why aren't we hearing of the other fights pissing hot many a months later like with Jon?
 
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Yeah well we live in the first world...
 
- Jon and his brothers are masters at using PEDS to increase their performance. I have no doubt if something is lingering in his system, it's because a designer PED isn't being flagged but a component.
I like the brothers line. Oft-overlooked detail as to how Jon gets away with this shit. He's on cutting edge expensive NFL shit. You never actually bought UFC merch though right?

You realize the changes that occur will be even shittier fight cards, and the fighters will suffer the most. You realize nothing we do with with the people in charge still in charge will change for the better right?
 
I don't believe them because I've asked someone I know who works within the Canadian Olympic Weightlifting program about turinabol and it's half life. For Jon Jones to have trace amounts in his blood after 15 months is impossible. There are athletes who've test positive for it at the Olympic level, go clean, and never test positive for it again. Even in trace amounts.

Just because three specialists say something doesn't mean it's true. Look how many are paid in the civil law system to say whatever the client wants.

If you are buying the excuse from Dana and crew, I have an amazing real estate opportunity for you. Some would say it's a "golden" one. I have a bridge in the San Fransisco Bay I'm getting rid of. I just can't maintain it anymore. Lots of revenue from tolls on both side..
it's not dana and crew. it's bowers and eichner and fedoruk. tell me why they are all lying. blatantly. and not a single expert has come out and said they are full of shit. is there a huge money trail that is covering everyone?

note the half life of turinabol is meaningless of course.
 
The last two PPVs I bought were GSP vs Bisping and Jones vs Gus 2. My money basically said I'm only ordering PPV where these guys face a decent opponent.

Skipped Khabib vs Conor.
 
Nope. My UFC spending habits won't change whatsoever.
 
I talked with my money after they took Jones's belt away.
 
Lol...nobody here pays for shit.

They just bitch.

I love MMA. I hope its on every weekend plus Thursday like the NFL.

If PPV cards are watered down so be it. We don't pay for them anyways.

By that I mean I always catch the provided highlights and commentary.
 
Casuals are the ones that make UFC money, I don't think we matter to them tbh
 
In the wake of UFC 232, there are some crystal-clear takeaways:

- The UFC thinks the average fan are idiots. Dana White shilled for Jon Jones to be able to fight because they needed a big event to close out the year.

- Jon Jones has repeatedly failed drug tests for months because of trace amounts that keep going up. That's re ingestion. Jon and his brothers are masters at using PEDS to increase their performance. I have no doubt if something is lingering in his system, it's because a designer PED isn't being flagged but a component is.

- Fighters themselves aren't buying the company line. Werdum has requested his release from the company, and I guarantee we'll see more.

The only people that can change the sport are the fans. If we stand up and say we're not going to pay for PPV or merch until this is fixed, eventually the UFC will have to take notice. They've already shown what they will do to end a fiscal year on a positive note so it's not out of the realm of reason to believe if revenues dip far enough, changes will come.

Do I think Dana White needs to go? Yes. 100%. This latest incident shows he doesn't care about the fans like he says he does. He cares about the bottom line and that's it. In a business requiring relationships to succeed for it to succeed, having someone like Dana as the front man has diminishing returns. He was great at building the sport, but it's time to hand it off to someone capable of taking it far past being the teenage red headed stepchild of a stock portfolio. It's time to hand it off to someone who will draw a hard line in the sand and never let anyone step over it in relation to PEDs.

I spoke with my money this past weekend. I didn't purchase the PPV because I didn't want to help Jon Jones make money by cheating. Until something changes, I won't spend another cent on UFC merchandise or PPVs. They've lost me as a customer because they tried to treat me like a child with this whole fiasco.

Will you make any changes regarding your UFC spending habits?
Congrats. Posted this 12 years ago on a different website.
 
Will you make any changes regarding your UFC spending habits?

I won't be getting ESPN+

I'm keeping FightPass for Invicta and EBI.

Also, they're not a "Must Attend" when they come to town anymore.... they're a wait and see.
 
In the wake of UFC 232, there are some crystal-clear takeaways:

- The UFC thinks the average fan are idiots. Dana White shilled for Jon Jones to be able to fight because they needed a big event to close out the year.

- Jon Jones has repeatedly failed drug tests for months because of trace amounts that keep going up. That's re ingestion. Jon and his brothers are masters at using PEDS to increase their performance. I have no doubt if something is lingering in his system, it's because a designer PED isn't being flagged but a component is.

- Fighters themselves aren't buying the company line. Werdum has requested his release from the company, and I guarantee we'll see more.

The only people that can change the sport are the fans. If we stand up and say we're not going to pay for PPV or merch until this is fixed, eventually the UFC will have to take notice. They've already shown what they will do to end a fiscal year on a positive note so it's not out of the realm of reason to believe if revenues dip far enough, changes will come.

Do I think Dana White needs to go? Yes. 100%. This latest incident shows he doesn't care about the fans like he says he does. He cares about the bottom line and that's it. In a business requiring relationships to succeed for it to succeed, having someone like Dana as the front man has diminishing returns. He was great at building the sport, but it's time to hand it off to someone capable of taking it far past being the teenage red headed stepchild of a stock portfolio. It's time to hand it off to someone who will draw a hard line in the sand and never let anyone step over it in relation to PEDs.

I spoke with my money this past weekend. I didn't purchase the PPV because I didn't want to help Jon Jones make money by cheating. Until something changes, I won't spend another cent on UFC merchandise or PPVs. They've lost me as a customer because they tried to treat me like a child with this whole fiasco.

Will you make any changes regarding your UFC spending habits?
In the wake of UFC 232, there are some crystal-clear takeaways:

- The UFC thinks the average fan are idiots. Dana White shilled for Jon Jones to be able to fight because they needed a big event to close out the year.

- Jon Jones has repeatedly failed drug tests for months because of trace amounts that keep going up. That's re ingestion. Jon and his brothers are masters at using PEDS to increase their performance. I have no doubt if something is lingering in his system, it's because a designer PED isn't being flagged but a component is.

- Fighters themselves aren't buying the company line. Werdum has requested his release from the company, and I guarantee we'll see more.

The only people that can change the sport are the fans. If we stand up and say we're not going to pay for PPV or merch until this is fixed, eventually the UFC will have to take notice. They've already shown what they will do to end a fiscal year on a positive note so it's not out of the realm of reason to believe if revenues dip far enough, changes will come.

Do I think Dana White needs to go? Yes. 100%. This latest incident shows he doesn't care about the fans like he says he does. He cares about the bottom line and that's it. In a business requiring relationships to succeed for it to succeed, having someone like Dana as the front man has diminishing returns. He was great at building the sport, but it's time to hand it off to someone capable of taking it far past being the teenage red headed stepchild of a stock portfolio. It's time to hand it off to someone who will draw a hard line in the sand and never let anyone step over it in relation to PEDs.

I spoke with my money this past weekend. I didn't purchase the PPV because I didn't want to help Jon Jones make money by cheating. Until something changes, I won't spend another cent on UFC merchandise or PPVs. They've lost me as a customer because they tried to treat me like a child with this whole fiasco.

Will you make any changes regarding your UFC spending habits?
this is pretty far down on my list of problems. way.
 
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