Tom Deblass being humble - DO NOT LET THIS S--- GO

[SandisLL]

never mind just healthcare workers?

And % of doctors aged >50.
If this is considered as vulnerable age, then…….
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Needs lower down in the hierarchy must be satisfied before individuals can attend to needs higher up.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html
This does work also on customers, and fear about safety does work also on these clients with good financial situation too.
This is difference between 2008/2009 stuff and this fear crisis.

 

[EGDM]

I think even calling someone a professor of BJJ is fucking weird to be honest. I can't think of any other sports that do that.

Professor just mean teacher in Brasil..

Lol

"Professor" just means teacher in English, too.

1. INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN "any instructor, especially in a specialized field."
late Middle English: from Latin professor, from profess- ‘declared publicly’

Is coach vs professor a required distinction? No. Does using the label demean or unduly elevate anyone? No. It's just an idiosyncrasy of the sport. The whole debate is idiotic and perpetuated by people who don't read enough.

 

[ijustwannasurf]

Maybe if we kept things completly unchecked, there'd be death to millions. If our vulnerable quarintined instead of everyone as the guy I linked suggested I think we could keep things moving and keep most people fairly safe.

I watched that video shortly after it was posted, but I took away something different than you did. The current measures may not have be the best alternative, but they are the best we're left with after early inaction.

Had we, meaning the US, been adequately prepared or acted on early warning signs, targeted quarantine would have been the way to go. But we did not. We did not allocate resources efficiently or acknowledge the scale of the problem. I would say the South Korean model is the most analogous to what we should have done, given the broadly similar population density in urban areas and the available technology.

When you say we could keep things moving and keep most people safe, I think you're mostly right. We could have kept things moving and kept most people safe, but we fucked that up. Now, to get back to the point where less restrictive measures will be effective, we have to employ some harsher methods. (Or we could just get interferon from Cuba.)

You also mentioned heart attacks, suicide, domestic violence and other collateral consequences of the lockdown. We already have all that in droves, which is exactly why we are so vulnerable to this pandemic. Americans are generally unhealthy and not in the best financial or emotional shape. Our healthcare system can be a nightmare even if you have the best insurance. Rushing back to the status quo is not going to fix these systemic issues.

Long story short: we will never know for sure if we overreacted, but we will damn sure know if we did not do enough.

 

[lechien]

"Professor" just means teacher in English, too.

1. INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN "any instructor, especially in a specialized field."
late Middle English: from Latin professor, from profess- ‘declared publicly’

Is coach vs professor a required distinction? No. Does using the label demean or unduly elevate anyone? No. It's just an idiosyncrasy of the sport. The whole debate is idiotic and perpetuated by people who don't read enough.

Professor is some kind of ranking in tertiary education.

But I don't care.

You can call me by my name during training.
Lot of students call me coach anyway.
As long as you don't call me bro during a class.

 

[NSchoke]

https://cbs6albany.com/news/coronav...obs-says-economic-hardship-doesnt-equal-death

The virus is Death!

I take back what I was saying before. I thought we were trying to "flatten the curve" but now that we have hospitals empty to the point that their employees are getting layed off, we're moving the bar. The virus is now death.

Fuck the people suffering domestic violence or commiting suicide because they've lost everything. This virus is DEATH!

Very sorry to hear about your brother and his family Mr Governor. I send my future condolences.

 

[randomg1t]

https://cbs6albany.com/news/coronav...obs-says-economic-hardship-doesnt-equal-death

The virus is Death!

I take back what I was saying before. I thought we were trying to "flatten the curve" but now that we have hospitals empty to the point that their employees are getting layed off, we're moving the bar. The virus is now death.

Fuck the people suffering domestic violence or commiting suicide because they've lost everything. This virus is DEATH!

Very sorry to hear about your brother and his family Mr Governor. I send my future condolences.

did you even listen to what he was saying?

i find it hard to believe that someone literate could listen to his response, and the only thing they can collect from it is that he was saying literally everyone would die. that's not what he's saying. like, at all.

 

[NSchoke]

did you even listen to what he was saying?

i find it hard to believe that someone literate could listen to his response, and the only thing they can collect from it is that he was saying literally everyone would die. that's not what he's saying. like, at all.

That's what I got form it.

"There's people out here struggling, no money coming in, what do you tell them?" The alternative is death- seemed happy to say it too- not that everyone is struggling and we're doing what we can-

"Well suicide is on the rise, domestic violence,ect?" Well, that doesn't affect me and this is certain death.


Your father commiting suicide or watching domestic violence doesn't have long lasting effects all of a sudden.

Theses are the "experts" we're supposed to bow down to.

 

[randomg1t]

That's what I got form it.

"There's people out here struggling, no money coming in, what do you tell them?" The alternative is death- seemed happy to say it too- not that everyone is struggling and we're doing what we can-

"Well suicide is on the rise, domestic violence,ect?" Well, that doesn't affect me and this is certain death.


Your father commiting suicide or watching domestic violence doesn't have long lasting effects all of a sudden.

Theses are the "experts" we're supposed to bow down to.

well, no.

when someone says "the cure can't be worse than the disease", his reply is that the "disease" in this saying is death. it's what the lockdown is trying to prevent, lots and lots of preventable death. the "disease" in this context isn't literally covid-19, just like the lockdown and social distancing aren't the "cure". right? it's an aphorism (is that the correct term? i'm too lazy to look it up).

if you want to be obtuse about it, and claim that he somehow stated covid-19 kills everyone, that's ok. but it doesn't make you right.

the opponents of the guidelines are claiming that being locked down is giving rise to suicides, domestic violence, and economic hardship, and the sum of deaths from those issues is higher than the sum of deaths from covid-19. and that would be a compelling argument, if only it were true. covid still kills some 500 people per day in the state of new york. is there any data to suggest deaths due to domestic violence and suicides exceed that number daily? it still kills around 2k people per day across the US, which is more than any other cause of death. how are you still arguing that this isn't true?

what he is also saying, quite clearly and concisely, is that choosing to ignore social distancing and lockdown guidelines does not only risk your own health and life, it risks others' as well. and while you might have the right to risk your own life by doing stupid shit, you don't have the right to risk other people's lives.

 

[NSchoke]

well, no.

when someone says "the cure can't be worse than the disease", his reply is that the "disease" in this saying is death. it's what the lockdown is trying to prevent, lots and lots of preventable death. the "disease" in this context isn't literally covid-19, just like the lockdown and social distancing aren't the "cure". right? it's an aphorism (is that the correct term? i'm too lazy to look it up).

if you want to be obtuse about it, and claim that he somehow stated covid-19 kills everyone, that's ok. but it doesn't make you right.

the opponents of the guidelines are claiming that being locked down is giving rise to suicides, domestic violence, and economic hardship, and the sum of deaths from those issues is higher than the sum of deaths from covid-19. and that would be a compelling argument, if only it were true. covid still kills some 500 people per day in the state of new york. is there any data to suggest deaths due to domestic violence and suicides exceed that number daily? it still kills around 2k people per day across the US, which is more than any other cause of death. how are you still arguing that this isn't true?

what he is also saying, quite clearly and concisely, is that choosing to ignore social distancing and lockdown guidelines does not only risk your own health and life, it risks others' as well. and while you might have the right to risk your own life by doing stupid shit, you don't have the right to risk other people's lives.

He mentions nothing about social distancing, flattening the curve or anything else that's helpful because those ships have sailed. Even hospitals are furloughing now
We're straight scare tactics now- The virus is death.

Forget that we're tracking .5% deathrate of those infected, even with #'s that seem to be trumped up with Corona being a catch all for anyone who dies at this point. And almost all the ones who have died had a foot in the grave in one way or another.

The government turning families lives upside down to the point that little Johnny is now watching his dad beat his mom who has no escape or someone in his family kills themself can't possibly cause as much damage to our future as grandma dieing and/or Cuomo getting sick.

No brainier- it's clear as day, there's death then there's these other people complaining for no reason.

 

[SandisLL]

You think that middle class and higher will start to use restaurants, gyms etc and mass events just cos someone will tell: restrictions are lifted, only old ppl are dying?
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Really tell to any client that he does have maybe lesser chances than 1% to get fly and even if he will get it, lesser chances than 0,1% to die from this.
Not to talk about nev unknown to us virus.
Recently had been reported: 35 y.o not poor guy died and some youngsters too.
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Normally I can dream cos lifted restrictions for example a guy with debts cos cancelled bout will come in gym and spend Money? Damn, let's dream………...……….
Or casual from Office too. His Money is valuable and he maybe isn't dreamer like only old ppl are in danger.
Ofc, U.S for example maybe should to keep at home these educated and certified law enforcment and medical specialists >50 y.o?
Including also not necessary<45> specialists in nuclear power plants and spent fuel storages too.
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Young dreamers world in interet.

 

[Os3y3ris]

I think we're ignoring the issue of the viral reservoir. Right now the only known reservoirs are in Yunaan and the Wuhan lab. However, the longer the outbreak lasts the longer the the virus has the chance to find its reservoir. If we freeze it will actually die, but if it find a reservoir we're fucked. And we can't kill the reservoir without an even deadlier pandemic ensuing.

 

[Kaffe]

Every country that has tried the isolation of key individuals instead of the populace at large has had to move away from that for the most part.

It is sad to see just how dysfunctional the US is when it comes to this. It really makes me appreciate living in a functioning country during these trying times.

 

[randomg1t]

He mentions nothing about social distancing, flattening the curve or anything else that's helpful because those ships have sailed. Even hospitals are furloughing now
We're straight scare tactics now- The virus is death.

Forget that we're tracking .5% deathrate of those infected, even with #'s that seem to be trumped up with Corona being a catch all for anyone who dies at this point. And almost all the ones who have died had a foot in the grave in one way or another.

The government turning families lives upside down to the point that little Johnny is now watching his dad beat his mom who has no escape or someone in his family kills themself can't possibly cause as much damage to our future as grandma dieing and/or Cuomo getting sick.

No brainier- it's clear as day, there's death then there's these other people complaining for no reason.

i already posted a frothing-at-the-mouth angry response to this. i deleted it.

you're not worth my time, or getting upset over.

good luck unseating cuomo and showing the world what a scam this covid-19 situation is. i'll donate money to your election campaign when you run for governor.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Just ended up unfollowing both guys (gary and ted).

Just daily bitching about not being able to train - hidden behind a concern for people who have lost their jobs, income, etc.

gary posting opinions while claiming them as fact (not always is but others with the same mindset) - while calling others selfish for calling authorities on those breaking quarantine and numbers measures. Also, while not being aware (doesn't care) of the irony of his statements.

Then you have ted - going off on his holier than thou rants. Then later not using any semblance of logic or humbleness just straight up name calling anyone who disagrees with him. Oh and he always remembers to mention his life is good because of is dvd/instructional sales and that he gave away over a million dollars in dvd sales from that free instructional he put out.

How long till one of these DDS guys gets the corona and then cries for help because the hospitals are being overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients (who never asked for it) and fools like them who knew better than the experts.

Every country that has tried the isolation of key individuals instead of the populace at large has had to move away from that for the most part.

It is sad to see just how dysfunctional the US is when it comes to this. It really makes me appreciate living in a functioning country during these trying times.

Outside of China (because no one knows what's true in regards to their media) USA is now the leader in Covid-19 deaths.

But I guess BJJ guys know better and this is just a government (Liberal) agenda against BJJ owners and the right wing woke crowd.

 

[randomg1t]

Just ended up unfollowing both guys (gary and ted).

and that's the right move, right there.

trying to reason with these morons is just a waste of time and it will ruin your day. the situation is shitty enough as it is, you don't need your mood soured any further by some ignorant halfwit whose opinion luckily doesn't matter in the slightest.

now, when the governor of your state starts using tonon's talking points... that's a different story. then you need to get loud.

 

[Peteyandjia]

Just ended up unfollowing both guys (gary and ted).

My only beef with Garry is he made a post about training, and he responded to every comment talking shit to him or calling him names, but I asked him a legit training question & he ignored my ass. Lol

Some people just enjoy the shit talking aspect of social media. I wouldn’t take any of it too seriously, whether it’s personal stuff, or their take on a global pandemic situation. These are just combat athletes after all. And I don’t say that as a pejorative — I respect the art & look up to many of them — I just mean they ain’t experts on virology, economy, or sociology.

 

[RemyR]

Yeah I like them but they’re kind of going off the deep end here.

To be fair though people probably shouldn’t be taking pandemic advice from professional athletes in the first place. Do what your president says instead and inject bleach.

 

[lechien]

I just watch the Gordon Ryan podcast with Tom and Miguel.

That was hilarious.

Tom literally would take big personal offense from people on forum and social media.

He just hates people that just create a fake account and troll all day long.

 

[lechien]

He just beefed on a troll on Instagram which account is Gordon Ryan sucks.

To be fair, Miguel started coaching Gordon from age of 15. Tom started coaching him from 17/18...

They treats him like a younger brother.

But there is a massive alpha group feeling but they definitely don't deny that Gordon was always like that from the day he walked in the gym.

 

[lechien]

At fifteen years old before taking any formal bjj training.
Gordon was already earning cash for tapping people in underground garage submission with other kids of his age but also some older people as well.