Elections Trump Indicted On 91 Counts

[Paynebringer]

poor melania. now she's gonna have to marry letitia james or e. jean carroll just to get any of this guys money.

in the end, she's just gonna end up becoming another contractor that her husband didn't pay.

Melania is now tinking about a slip n fall at Mar-a-lago for that life insurance money...

 

[idrankyourbeer]

wonder if the fraudy rapist is gonna withdraw his appeal, now that he knows he's on the hook for the money and this is his one shot at weaseling his way out of 500M or so in debt, he might want to have to come up with something a little more likely to succeed.

i mean he doesn't get to retry his case or introduce any new evidence or witnesses, and the only grounds he has to appeal off of is based on what happened at trial.

but the onus is now on him to prove maliciousness and wrongdoings in the court. they cant just speculate. he can stamp his feet, throw some shit at the wall, and harass some more judges and their clerks all he wants but hurt feelings are not grounds for appeal either. they actually have to meet the threshhold and prove the wrongdoings to get any kind of ruling in their favor. and he's gonna have one hell of a time trying to convince any judge in the country that judge engoron went off the rails. especially when they spent months harassing him and his family and his clerks, and doing all they could just to try to piss him off and try to provoke him into making him unruly decisions from he bench, and yet he didn't even flinch at their efforts.

judges really do not like it when you harass and threaten them and their staffers and family members instead of trying to maintain your innocence. you don't fuck around in front of the people who have the power to have you find out. and now he will be going in front of a panel of judges, who probably don't take too kindly to that, and they are going to see all of that too, while likely getting threatened or harassed by trump or his rabid cultists , while at the same time he's arguing that he was the victim, and engoron was the unruly bully.

thats not really the direction they would want to go with their appeal, but it appears as if they are fair dinkum fucked on this case and that might very well be the only one they've been left with to challenge.

i still wouldn't be surprised if they withdraw this appeal and try to come up with something else. you don't get to spend months throwing your shit at the judge while the judge ignores you, and then tell a bunch of other judges that they need to reverse his decision because he was the troublemaker. somebody better tell that to the parking garage campaign doll before they lose all their shit, exhaust their appeal, and get laughed out of court. if they want to continue to go this way, they are straight up fucked. i mean they're probably fucked either way, but there are probably better routes to go when making an appeal. this definately isn't the way they want to be heading.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

SCOTUS is going to decide on trump's immunity appeal argument

they're gonna weigh in and finally put all this shit to bed. but its gonna delay the federal election interference case until the summer. it was originally supposed to start the first week of march but obviously thats not happening because of all the delays with this immunity appeals shit that have been going on these last few months.

they could have avoided all this had they taken up jack smith's request to ignore the appeals court and fast track the immunity argument to the scotus way back in december....but now here we are nearly 3 months later and it's right back in front of them

i guess that was fair of SCOTUS though to let him have his right to an appeals court hearing. but this argument was destined for the SCOTUS from the first place. and this shit is eating off a whole lot of time that they could have saved if they would have just taken up jack smith's request back in december.

 

[sickc0d3r]

SCOTUS just decided to hear trump's immunity appeal argument

they're gonna weigh in and finally put all this shit to bed. but its gonna delay the federal election interference until the summer. it was originally supposed to start the first week of march but obviously thats not happening because of all the delays with this immunity appeals shit that have been going on these last few months.

they could have avoided all this had they taken up jack smith's request to ignore the appeals court and fast track the immunity argument to the scotus way back in december....but now here we are nearly 3 months later and it's right back in front of them

i guess that was fair of SCOTUS though to let him have his right to an appeals court hearing. but this argument was destined for the SCOTUS from the first place. and this shit is eating off a whole lot of time that they could have saved if they would have just taken up jack smith's request back in december.

Election season, baby. Summer blockbuster in the works.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Election season, baby. Summer blockbuster in the works.

the order said the court would hear the case the week of april 22. we might have to wait until the end of june just to hear a ruling. and that would probably push the trial into later on in august after the pretrial preperation and jury selection.

i'm sure the party of law & order and personal accountability will have no qualms with the delay. i mean it's not like they wouldn't want the american voters to know who they are voting for or whether or not they are voting for a criminal who interterfered with and tried to subvert an election. they're probably chomping at the bit just to see this innocent man go to a courtroom, plead his case, maintain his innocence respectfully in front of a judge and jury, exonerate himself, prove to his supporters and potential voters that it really was a weaponized witch hunt against him and he didnt do anything wrong, and own the libs harder than he's ever owned them before!

 

[HOLA]

So one of the sanctions Trump actually did manage to get removed was he's now able to get loans from NY banks.

I'd love to hear his sales pitch. "Can you guys give me a few hundreds of millions in loans?! I need the money to pay a bunch of fines, because I defrauded the last group of banks I asked for loans!"


I still wouldn't be completely shocked if someone does give him the loans, but I would be surprised. His credit was already so bad 30 years ago that he was forced to pay around 15% interest on loans he took out. Within a few months he couldn't pay. One of the reasons he managed to bankrupt a fucking casino in a few months.

Not even Douche Bank will touch him now. Last I heard he was reduced to taking out loans from online only banks based in the Caribbeans, owned by Russian oligarchs, that usually deal with the porn industry.

A real interesting turn of events would be if he turns to a foreign country like China to get some loans. His pathologically hypocritical cult would, of course, never criticize him over this.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

maybe he'll go into the bank and ask for a loan and ask them to put it on rudy's tab?

 

[sickc0d3r]

the order said the court would hear the case the week of april 22. we might have to wait until the end of june just to hear a ruling. and that would probably push the trial into later on in august after the pretrial preperation and jury selection.

i'm sure the party of law & order and personal accountability will have no qualms with the delay. i mean it's not like they wouldn't want the american voters to know who they are voting for or whether or not they are voting for a criminal who interterfered with and tried to subvert an election. they're probably chomping at the bit just to see this innocent man go to a courtroom, plead his case, maintain his innocence respectfully in front of a judge and jury, exonerate himself, prove to his supporters and potential voters that it really was a witch hunt against him and he didnt do anything wrong, and own the libs harder than he's ever owned them before!

Accurate. Trump fans absolutely do not care if he’s guilty of anything.

I tend to think scotus will rule fairly quickly, though. Better for everyone if the J6 trial in particular is settled before the election, as it is based on shit he was impeached for. But, who really knows? Maybe they’ll even rule presidents are above the law. Dank Brandon licking his chops…

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Accurate. Trump fans absolutely do not care if he’s guilty of anything.

I tend to think scotus will rule fairly quickly, though. Better for everyone if the J6 trial in particular is settled before the election, as it is based on shit he was impeached for. But, who really knows? Maybe they’ll even rule presidents are above the law. Dank Brandon licking his chops…

i hope so, but scotus doesnt tend to move that fast. its hard to be inclined to take peoples rights away and shit when you're spending most of your days taking bribes and going out on luxury yachts and shit. conducting courtroom business is for peons and peasants. aint nobody got time for that shit!

they'll probably have a ruling before their months of summer vacation, they tend to have most of their cases wrapped up by then.

 

[Andy Capp]

So one of the sanctions Trump actually did manage to get removed was he's now able to get loans from NY banks.

I'd love to hear his sales pitch. "Can you guys give me a few hundreds of millions in loans?! I need the money to pay a bunch of fines, because I defrauded the last group of banks I asked for loans!"


I still wouldn't be completely shocked if someone does give him the loans, but I would be surprised. His credit was already so bad 30 years ago that he was forced to pay around 15% interest on loans he took out. Within a few months he couldn't pay. One of the reasons he managed to bankrupt a fucking casino in a few months.

Not even Douche Bank will touch him now. Last I heard he was reduced to taking out loans from online only banks based in the Caribbeans, owned by Russian oligarchs, that usually deal with the porn industry.

A real interesting turn of events would be if he turns to a foreign country like China to get some loans. His pathologically hypocritical cult would, of course, never criticize him over this.

I could be wrong, but I don't think he can use any of the properties subject to the judgement for collateral, can he? What else has he got that's worth enough?

 

[sickc0d3r]

I could be wrong, but I don't think he can use any of the properties subject to the judgement for collateral, can he? What else has he got that's worth enough?

Nuclear secrets, of course.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I could be wrong, but I don't think he can use any of the properties subject to the judgement for collateral, can he? What else has he got that's worth enough?

His social media company.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I could be wrong, but I don't think he can use any of the properties subject to the judgement for collateral, can he? What else has he got that's worth enough?

watch him roll up to the courthouse with a trailer full of sneakers and superhero cards.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

looks like trump's gofund me has petered out.

it raked in a million in 4 days. but over the last week it hasnt even made 300K. that ain't even enough to scratch the interest lol.

 

[Andy Capp]

His social media company.

If that's worth any more than a couple of Trump steaks investors are over-optimistic, IMHO

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I could be wrong, but I don't think he can use any of the properties subject to the judgement for collateral, can he? What else has he got that's worth enough?

It seems kind of interesting how this would all work out. Usually a bond costs 10% of the bail if you can't come up with all the money but as long as you don't flee the bondsman gets his money back. What happens in this case if the judgement is upheld, would the bondsman then take ownership of the collateral?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

It seems kind of interesting how this would all work out. Usually a bond costs 10% of the bail if you can't come up with all the money but as long as you don't flee the bondsman gets his money back. What happens in this case if the judgement is upheld, would the bondsman then take ownership of the collateral?

the full bond will be between 100-125% of the judgement + interest accrued. trump will have to pay 50m out of pocket to cover initial bond and then give up at least 450m in assets as collaterol to the bondsman to cover the rest of the surety and then some. the bondsman would then post the remaining 400-450M or so in cash to cover the rest of his bond required to get a stay on the judgement pending appeal.

if they win the appeal he gets back his 50M, and the collaterol assets from the bondsman. if he loses the appeal, letitia james and the state of new york receives all of their judgement money through the cash bond that trump and his bondsmen posted, trump loses that 50M and the bondsman loses out on the 400-450M or so he posted. but the bondsmen gets to keep whatever collaterol that trump gave him, and the bondsman will just sell that off to cover the money that he originally put down and lost.

the money will come out of trump's pockets one way or another. it wouldn't be the bondsman's loss. trump pretty much has to sign all the assets over to him before the bondsman would put down the money to cover his bond, and whatever assets the bondsmen takes for collaterol would have to be worth at least the monetary value of what they are putting down. bondsmen aren't in business to lose money.

he's going to have a tough time finding a bondsman if he doesnt have good collaterol to put up. wouldn't be surprised if he tries to pull a fast one on a bondsman and tries to inflate the value of his assets by 3 times what they are worth. but any respectable bondsman would catch on to those kind of schemes immediately and tell the client to hit the road. if there's millions of dollars of their money at stake, theyll bring in their own people to do the assessments of value first before they accept anything from a client.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Supremes just messed Jackie boy up.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

If that's worth any more than a couple of Trump steaks investors are over-optimistic, IMHO

I've heard he'll make $4 billion at least from the deal. There'll be plenty to go around for everyone... except Rudy.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I've heard he'll make $4 billion at least from the deal. There'll be plenty to go around for everyone... except Rudy.

watch trump cash in and then throw rudy a trump superhero NFT card to help pay off his 2M debt, and rudy just stands there looking at this playing card of donald trump in a superman cape saying to himself "what the fuck is this shit?"