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How do you prove you own your iPhone without a government?
Because i bought it from the guy that created that iphone and i have a receipt.
Who is the creator of time-space?
How do you prove you own your iPhone without a government?
Property rights are maintained only by brute force? Are you a home owner? I am. There was no brute force involved in my home ownership.
Property is no different from anything else you own. People buy and sell property like they buy and sell cars and phones.
Those who disagree with these two notions of wealth and rights, also happened to be the people who desire an all-powerful State. I assure you that's no coincidence.
Wrong. Rights are not granted by any government. This was recognized in the bill of rights. Rights are inalienable. They can't be alienated from a person by any person or institution. Rights are part of the nature of man.
Only uneducated slaves think that rights are granted by a government. If government can grant rights, then they can take them away. At least some of the founders of America understood this, and tried to correct that sick and twisted thinking.
It's strange how people who support a corrupt, authoritarian president and are generally willing to humiliate themselves to defend him ("Trump has never lied") think that others desire an all-powerful state just because they believe that the gov't has a responsibility to compensate victims of its land appropriation.
Too many make the mistake of thinking governments actually create things like wealth and rights.
Individual human intelligence is the only source of all wealth. Governments don't create wealth, they only piggyback off the discoveries of new wealth.
Rights are the necessary conditions of ones proper existence. A government doesn't grant rights. A government can only violate or uphold rights.
Those who disagree with these two notions of wealth and rights, also happened to be the people who desire an all-powerful State. I assure you that's no coincidence.
Individual human intelligence created spacetime?
Not really. There are plenty of remote tribes in the Amazon who have no such conceptions of wealth and rights who nonetheless desire to maintain their traditional lives in the jungle instead of being coerced into a society defined by property rights where they ultimately suffer. People like you feel you have the right to use force to appropriate the land they live on and incorporate it into your own system of property because you see yourself as "granting" them rights they never conceived of themselves as having and that they have no desire of claiming if it comes at the expense of their traditional way of living.Those who disagree with these two notions of wealth and rights, also happened to be the people who desire an all-powerful State. I assure you that's no coincidence.
It was an individual human intelligence (Hermann Minkowski) that discovered the space time continuum in a way that was more easily understood.
"The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength. They are radical. henceforth, space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality."
-Hermann Minkowski
Sure, because the state has full control over the territory. The force is so overwhelming that it doesn't need to be used. Absent a state, that isn't the case.
So, you are saying that the government protects my property by stealing my property (wealth) through taxation?
That's very bizarre and contradictory, isn't it?
Whoever purchases the property is the propety owner. When you purchase or obtain property, there is a voluntary exchange between two parties.
That didn't work out so well for the American Indians, did it?
Maybe @Farmer Br0wn can explain to us how these mythical voluntary exchanges collapse?
You just need to study history. There were major land sales by several native American groups and individuals. Some to white settlers, some to the American government. Some for money, some for other goods. The majority of land acquisition by settlers in early America was not how it you portray it. https://www.cmich.edu/library/clark...eaty_Rights/Pages/New-Section---The-Land.aspx
Of course some of the land was unjustly acquired. And in the instances that it was unjustly acquired, as a firm believer in private property, I would have been against it.
My original point stands. In the absence of government, the mythical portrayal of ethical voluntary exchange goes out the window, and the man with the biggest club wins. This country is based on an original theft.
Whoa whoa whoa. The government was present and involved when you are saying there was fraud and non ethical exchanges of land.
So, what is your point? It was the American government itself that was the cause of the fraud, so.... what is your point again?
Did you read the source?
usually, but not always perpetrated by the settlers on Indians
You said in the *absence* of government, there is fraud and unethical practice, but it is clear that there was fraud and unethical practices PERPETRATED by the American government itself! This is supposed to be an argument for government to save us from fraud? Haha what a joke... You statists are completely clueless...
My point is that it was happening when there was little to no enforcement of "property rights" (from the Indians' perspective at least) - the very thing you say can exist as a form of voluntary exchange when men are unrestrained by law/state - obviously my example proves that the species is not as noble as you make it out to be.
Does this kind of thing happen today with more or less frequency? If less, what is preventing that?