*** UFC 297: Sean Strickland vs. DDP - Who Did You Think Won Mega Thread ***

[RonDante]

Grabbing someone’s back for 60 seconds after getting outstruck and getting 1 clean takedown doesn’t win you the round. I like Movsar he’s one of the flashier eastern wrestlers but it was a robbery. Allen won the 1st and 3rd

 

[welcometohavoc]

The only robbery was Goddard injecting himself in a crucial moment.

Those were 100% legal knees

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

The only robbery was Goddard injecting himself in a crucial moment.

Those were 100% legal knees

Allen would have finished the fight if Goddard was sober and remembered that a fighter can't ground himself like that anymore.

 

[Brigfa2]

In close fights like this they give the fight to the undefeated one

 

[DSM]

Stop. Not a robbery but the commentary was cringe how much they licked Evloevs ass. It was close as shit. Also, those knees should not have been stopped.

 

[oski]

Knees looked good enough. Shitty way to lose.

 

[welcometohavoc]

Allen would have finished the fight if Goddard was sober and remembered that a fighter can't ground himself like that anymore.

I thought I smelled booze and cigarettes

 

[sdpdude9]

 

[Fact Checker]

Allen got outclassed, should’ve been a point deduction too. Allen was getting skunked two rounds straight

 

[DelanoRunnymede]

Those knees looked legal to me, and he finishes him if Goddard doesn’t step in. Evloev did win 29-28 having said that though.

 

[cade187]

An opponent shall be deemed to be a “grounded opponent” if at least one of the opponent’s hands is weight-bearing on the floor, including, but not limited to, the palm, finger tips, or fist, or if one or more the opponent’s body parts, other than a non-weight bearing hand or sole of a foot, is touching the floor.

Legal knees.

EDIT - They were fighting in Canada. I have no idea what rules the Ontario commission uses.

 

[RonDante]

Allen got outclassed, should’ve been a point deduction too. Allen was getting skunked two rounds straight

Outclassed by outstriking, stuffing takedowns, cutting open and almost finishing evloev. Yea, sure

 

[SamuraiBro]

Robbed of a tko win.

 

[oldschoolmmafan]

 

[Dandy Chiggins]

He was grounded and it was the impact that raised him up making it look legal. Maybe it's the drunken state that sometimes make you see things the way you imagine them to be.

 

[No Mas]

An opponent shall be deemed to be a “grounded opponent” if at least one of the opponent’s hands is weight-bearing on the floor, including, but not limited to, the palm, finger tips, or fist, or if one or more the opponent’s body parts, other than a non-weight bearing hand or sole of a foot, is touching the floor.

Legal knees.

This change is probably dumber than just counting one hand touching as grounded opponent.

Now you expect the referee to make a split second decision whether the hand/fingers are weight bearing lmao. Something that's really subjectice/impossible to determine really.

And then half the referees are prob not even aware of it.

 

[rjmbrd]

I had Allen winning 1 & 3 as well, but the first round was very close. Wouldn't call it a robbery.

Definitely think the referee did not need to stop the action from the knees - he was playing the game as clear as day, and Arnold was lifting him to strike. Should not have stopped the action and that was big momentum disruption.

All things considered, we confirmed Movsar is elite and belongs in a title fight or title eliminator, and we saw AA confirm he's still one of the best in the world.

 

[Dionysian]

I thought it was a fairly straight-forward 29-28. Allen won the 3rd but Evloev had the other two.

 

[Dimbis]

An opponent shall be deemed to be a “grounded opponent” if at least one of the opponent’s hands is weight-bearing on the floor, including, but not limited to, the palm, finger tips, or fist, or if one or more the opponent’s body parts, other than a non-weight bearing hand or sole of a foot, is touching the floor.

Legal knees.

This is what I thought. Is it only certain commissions that have implemented this? I found it weird that, even if it was, the commentary didn’t mention it to clear up confusion.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

The only robbery was Goddard injecting himself in a crucial moment.

Those were 100% legal knees

An opponent shall be deemed to be a “grounded opponent” if at least one of the opponent’s hands is weight-bearing on the floor, including, but not limited to, the palm, finger tips, or fist, or if one or more the opponent’s body parts, other than a non-weight bearing hand or sole of a foot, is touching the floor.

Legal knees.

This change is probably dumber than just counting one hand touching as grounded opponent.

Now you expect the referee to make a split second decision whether the hand/fingers are weight bearing lmao. Something that's really subjectice/impossible to determine really.

And then half the referees are prob not even aware of it.

Definitely think the referee did not need to stop the action from the knees - he was playing the game as clear as day, and Arnold was lifting him to strike. Should not have stopped the action and that was big momentum disruption.

Wrong rules. Knees were illegal.

Sorry everyone. As long as he was touching the ground, he's downed. I think it's dumb, but that's the Ontario Athletic Commission. They go by the old rules