Media Volk's coach disses Sambo

Volk’s last lost is to a better grappler, about to lose again .
 
MarleyLynx said:
He's correct. The takedowns are Judo and the submissions are Jiu Jitsu. Sambo is just a mixed sport like catch wrestling but it's not an actual martial art in itself. I'd also add, Sambo guys are pretty easy. I come across them all the time and they're very physical and explosive but tend to severely lack in their technique. There's nothing insecure about what Craig Jones stated. It's just objective truth.
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Yea, Khabib got to 29-0 because his technique sucked. Asswipe.
 
Huligani said:
Sambo is undefeated against BJJ

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- EDIT: One loss rather
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Maybe you should hope for him also rocking Volkanovski because, without rocking him as he rocked Charles, his BJJ is almost invisible. But not the invisible one from master Rickson Gracie, is invisible invisible, he has none. Volkanovski's coach is absolutely right. Rocking a guy and going for the submission doesn't prove anything.

What we could say is, even not having a good BJJ (as Khabib also hadn't, no news), he has a hell of a ground controlling game. Hats for him. But that's it.
 
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Sincere Guy said:
Maybe you should hope for him also rocking Volkanovski because, without rocking him as he rocked Charles, his BJJ is almost invisible. But not the invisible one from master Rickson Gracie, is invisible invisible, he has none. Volkanovski's coach is absolutely right. Rocking a guy and going for the submission doesn't prove anything.

What we could say is, even not having a good BJJ (as Khabib also didn't, no news), he has a hell of a ground controlling game. Hats for him. But that's it.
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Rocking a guy and going for a submission shows that you are a MM artist , dropping on your butt and begging the opponent to get in your guard shows that you don't know how to create the position.
 
Every art in dangerous in the hands of the right practitioner. Not buying Sambo is ineffective…Jones is wrong on this one.
 
Luckyme said:
Some of these BJJ guys come across as really insecure about their martial art. Craig Jones sounds like he's parroting Gracie propaganda from the 90s.


https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023...n-says-alexander-volkanovski-kills-sambo-myth

Craig Jones thinks Alexander Volkanovski puts an end to Sambo at UFC 294.

Volkanovski (26-2 MMA, 13-1 UFC) will step in on less than two weeks’ notice to rematch lightweight champion Islam Makhachev (24-1 MMA, 13-1 UFC) next Saturday, Oct. 21 in Abu Dhabi.

Jones, a multiple-time IBJJF world championship medalist and 2019 ADCC runner up, isn’t sold on Sambo as a martial art, and hopes Volkanovski proves how ineffective it is by beating Makhachev.

“It makes him a man that disproved Sambo, and that will trump his legacy in the sport because we’ve wasted another martial art,” Jones told Submission Radio. “Most martial arts were killed in 1993. Somehow, Sambo has limped and lingered on to 2023. So Volkanovski kills Sambo, and we get to stop hearing about this Russian dancer.”

Jones received criticism for claiming that Makhachev doesn’t have good submissions, and thinks their first fight proved it. Makhachev had more than seven minutes of control time on Volkanovski at UFC 284, but wasn’t able to submit him. He won the fight by unanimous decision.

“The last fight, we spent a ton of time on submission defense,” Jones said. “Obviously, that’s a waste of time because as we learned, Islam doesn’t know any submissions. He just holds on to the back for 20 minutes. This time, we’ll probably get out of the body triangle. There was no submission threat at all, so Volk was just chilling, getting energy back, punching him in the head. This time, we’ll get out of that.”

Makhachev’s mentor Khabib Nurmagomedov once infamously sported a t-shirt which read, “If Sambo was easy, it would be called jiu-jitsu,” but Jones explains why he doesn’t think Sambo really exists.

“We’ve heard about catch wrestling. We’ve heard about Sambo. We’ve never seen it work,” Jones said. “If Islam gets a submission, that’s a jiu-jitsu submission. If he gets a takedown, that’s a judo takedown. If he shoots a double-leg, that’s a wrestling move. So for me, where’s Sambo? Sambo is a myth. It doesn’t exist.”
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Go watch his youtube or anything from B Team. The guy has his own shirt that says#fuck craigjones.

You missed the joke dude.
 
pinero said:
Rocking a guy and going for a submission shows that you are a MM artist , dropping on your butt and begging the opponent to get in your guard shows that you don't know how to create the position.
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Still doesn't prove he has top BJJ... Like you said, he is a good MMA fighter, and I said he has a hell of a ground control. Unquestionable. But I was talking about the picture and that picture still doesn't prove the point I made, even submitting a top BJJ like Charles. He rocked the guy before going to submission, way different thing than going for the submission with the guy 100% as Volkanovski was and he could do nothing. That's also unquestionable.
 
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Sounds like he's really speaking in jest.
 
MarleyLynx said:
He's correct. The takedowns are Judo and the submissions are Jiu Jitsu. Sambo is just a mixed sport like catch wrestling but it's not an actual martial art in itself.
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By that logic, BJJ isn't a real martial art either since its submissions are derived from judu newaza. JJJ and catch wrestling both predate BJJ.

Neither BJJ nor Sambo invented submissions. They are different style of grappling.

maximus__ said:
Go watch his youtube or anything from B Team. The guy has his own shirt that says#fuck craigjones.

You missed the joke dude.
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Damn, had no idea this guy was trolling. It's all over YouTube and the MMA news sites as if it were a legit story.
 
Luckyme said:
Some of these BJJ guys come across as really insecure about their martial art. Craig Jones sounds like he's parroting Gracie propaganda from the 90s
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CPH said:
He seems like a fucking idiot.
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You both don’t know Craig “Number 2 at the podium number 1 in our hearts” Jones do you?
 
Luckyme said:
By that logic, BJJ isn't a real martial art either since its submissions are derived from judu newaza. JJJ and catch wrestling both predate BJJ.

Neither BJJ nor Sambo invented submissions. They are different style of grappling.



Damn, had no idea this guy was trolling. It's all over YouTube and the MMA news sites as if it were a legit story.
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They just stole it from Pankration anyway. Anyone who wears clothes when they fight is just altering the original style.

Craig Jones just released a rash guard that said "Keep jiu jitsu gay". As you can tell he takes a sport where people cuddle each other very seriously.
He said he was getting on the Nose beers after one of his recent wins.
Islam knows he is just playing around and will give it back like the last fight unless he loses, some idiot over there will take it seriously and try and kill him probably.
 
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