What Does The Result Mean for MMA and Boxing?

[awymore]

Boxing looks a tad worse for letting a rookie win rounds against Floyd. Conor earned stars for what he accomplished. He puts it all out there.

More and more people know that MMA is where the real fighters go. Floyd with his back turning and ducking plus years of boring klitchkos are killing the sport. That's not even getting into all of the padded records, dozens of orgs with belts and handpicked opponents.

Agreed. Boxing defense these days relies on oven mitt gloves and exposing the back of your head. That's not superior striking.

 

[davidlemonparty]

McGregor can use his length well and punches well, but isn't a particularly hard hitter by boxing standards.

The only new thing I learned is that McGregor is surprisingly bad at generating power on the inside (normally he would throw an elbow in that scenario I guess?). Mayweather figured this out early on, which is why he stopped hanging out at range and started walking McGregor down. Without the distance to throw long punches, he didn't have enough pop to threaten Mayweather; Potentially very, very useful for Khabib to know.

A good piece of analysis - my only caveat is that scenario only became really apparent after conor had gassed i.e. R4 and onwards. Fresh conor in a dirty boxing clinch may still have the power to give anyone the wobbles.

 

[brownsmith76]

The 145-155 pound divisions are overrated or watered down. Protected fighters look better in a monopoly-like situation. Just look at Ronda Rousey.

The UFC is pumped up with hype. Conor's punches were nowhere near as strong as Joe Rogan said. Rogan is always exaggerating and shouting with his eyeballs popped out when he gives commentary.

 

[deviake]

Nothing too surprising: A high level jack-of-all-trades is very respectable at one of those trades but not enough to beat high level pros. In contrast, the specialist would last less than 45 seconds in a contest where the jack-of-all-trades had access to his full toolkit.

 

[Pseudo Sane]

A good piece of analysis - my only caveat is that scenario only became really apparent after conor had gassed i.e. R4 and onwards. Fresh conor in a dirty boxing clinch may still have the power to give anyone the wobbles.

Maybe. It's hard to say how much of the early rounds was Mayweather's natural caution, how much was him goofing around, and how much was caution being in there against a much larger man.

I agree that Conor can generate more power if allowed to grab and punch, obviously.

 

[MixMartialFarts]

Boxers have already gained respect for MMA fighters for the most part. Even before this fight, the old school boxing commentators and media still have a negative opinion of MMA but actual boxers have more respect for MMA these days. MMA has gotten way more technical and less sloppy in the striking in the last 5 years or so, and there is more cross training between the 2 sports and boxers have come to realize that this isnt just human cock fighting, that these guys are athletes, do have skills and there is technique to what their doing.

Even Paulie malinagi was givving karate its due credit in the commentary

 

[Them Bones]

Im more of a MMA fan so I kind of expected more from Connor. I understand he was going up against Floyd but I was hoping too see a bit more action. It seems boxing fans are showing more respect to Connor for surviving and landing a few shots. I thought Connor was over his gassing issues but apparently not I also I wonder if this whole fight was nothing more than farce...

I just dont know. Connor got his payday and I kinda hope the UFC never allow such a fiasco too happen again.

I guess that the two of us had completely different expectations of what was going to play out, and i guess that neither of us got anything close to what we expected in the end.

I was certain about several things before the fight and ended up being wrong on most of them. But one of the things that i was right about was that Conor would gas. And it has little to do with Conor having gassed out before in mma.

I think Conor did a bit more than just survive and land a few shots personally, although it did become clear as the fight went on that there would be only one winner.

It was always going to be a monumental task for Conor. I doubt that any fighter in the history of boxing has ever beaten a fighter of Floyds caliber in their debut (even considering that this was a very faded version of Floyd).

Even if it was a pretty shitty fight in the end and the UFC guy clearly lost, i still don't think it was a fiasco for the UFC at all. But hey, all of that is probably relative to what kind of expectations we had pre fight.

 

[bjjwar]

Makes mma look like a joke. When a retired 40 yr old way smaller boxer beats and uses his opponent as a punching bag while drinking a coffee there's not much to say.
When you see how Conor beats most of his opponents (all by boxing and making it look easy and then he gets completely trashed by a dude who didn't even want to fight anymore and is way past his prime...

 

[Them Bones]

Nothing too surprising: A high level jack-of-all-trades is very respectable at one of those trades but not enough to beat high level pros. In contrast, the specialist would last less than 45 seconds in a contest where the jack-of-all-trades had access to his full toolkit.

That's probably a pretty damn fair assessment. The only thing that i would add is that people really need to take into account that this was Conor's boxing debut, and the debut part really fucking matters.

There is no complete replication of a 12 round pro boxing fight. And the gulf in skill and experience can not be closed in a matter of months. The closest thing to pro boxing in the combat world is of course amateur boxing. And even the very, very best am fighters all need at least a few pro fights before they can compete with the top level guys over 12 rounds with smaller gloves.

 

[HIMBOB]

I don't like boxing.

To much ref intervention.
Seemed a soft stoppage.

Having a rookie last near 30 mins in a ring with a potential GOAT reflects poorly on the sport.

If there was any person who thought Floyd could beat Conor in a real fight they have now changed their mind.

Tldr. Good for mma bad for boxing.

 

[HIMBOB]

Doesn't really mean much for either sport in the grand scheme.

The money is in boxing, and apparently what look like hard shots in the cage aren't so hard in boxing.

You referring to glove size?

 

[Ttone5722]

You referring to glove size?

Could be that. Maybe Conor just didn't catch Floyd clean. Maybe he just doesn't hit as hard as I thought. Who knows. Connor just didn't look to have as much power in this fight as he has in some if his others.

 

[Rondas Pillow]

Could be that. Maybe Conor just didn't catch Floyd clean. Maybe he just doesn't hit as hard as I thought. Who knows. Connor just didn't look to have as much power in this fight as he has in some if his others.

Mma vs boxing gloves make virtually no difference. He was hyped up is all.

 

[Rondas Pillow]

He wasnt knocked out though. He gassed.

lolwut

 

[HIMBOB]

Could be that. Maybe Conor just didn't catch Floyd clean. Maybe he just doesn't hit as hard as I thought. Who knows. Connor just didn't look to have as much power in this fight as he has in some if his others.

Floyd had to worry about 2 weapons, mma guys at least 8.

Its the one you don't see that gets ya.

 

[Ttone5722]

Floyd had to worry about 2 weapons, mma guys at least 8.

Its the one you don't see that gets ya.

You're right, but I'm not following what that has to do with me thinking Conor's fists didn't look as powerful in boxing gloves.