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hello everyone,
i was following the election in France, whilst also thinking about the immigration/H1B/H2B situation here in the states, and i had a question;
if the Trump administration were to completely staunch the flow of illegals to this nation, continue its unleashing of ICE officials from sea to shining sea, while also restricting H1B/H2B visas, would the result be more employed Americans along with higher wages across the board for everyone in those respective fields?
and, if the answer is "yes" to the above, wouldn't that be a wonderful boon to the United States?
my second question would be this;
i figure there would be a cost offset for everything too, as American ITs filled those jobs in the tech industry and earned more....and as Americans replaced Mexican and Central American labor in the kitchens of various restaurants and earned more....and this trend would continue in the construction and hospitality industry, along with the agribusiness.
meaning, either there would be less profits for ownership or the cost for everything would rise for the general public.
so would the end result be a net positive for things like GDP and government spending (since presumably there would be less public assistance as wages went up) or would it be a net negative?
- IGIT
Good question IGIT
http://www.fairus.org/publications/...llegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
This link states a NET loss of $80-$113Billion a year due to illegal immigration but a lot of the data is predicted/estimated and not hardline empirical data.
I'd prefer to enforce legal immigration
- I'd like to remove as much of the incentive for illegal immigration
--fine those that hire illegal immigrants
--fine visa holders with expired documents(if they can be found)
--seize assets of relatives or at least threaten to(sounds a bit harsh and I am being a biy facetious)
The reason I'd prefer to enforce law and remove illegals
1. To remove them as political puppets and talking points for either political party
(let's face it, neither party trully empathize with illegals and their circumstances; they are being used for political gain and getting the empathy of the voting public)
2. The crime associated with illegals and their next generation
-without a proper vote to get the local govt to improve their neighborhoods, a perpetuity of poverty and crime occurs.
-jails, federal sentences, etc.
3. The intrinsic healthcare costs are something to consider and are a bit of a burden.
-uninsured but get ER service
4. US Education reform and those construction, welding,(both not minimum wage by the way) and low skilled labor jobs can help the youth and other US citizens make a bit of money.
-only 4% of illegals do labor in agriculture(fruit picking)... it's not just us that prefer to steer clear of that job.
5. Illegals send their children to public school
Costs quite a bit
I'd like to see immigration law enforced
Maybe the faster we get past this political topic, the better