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Still didn't answer and still not surprised.Are you his advocate or attention whore? Second one, I presume.
Still didn't answer and still not surprised.Are you his advocate or attention whore? Second one, I presume.
Mass-scale resettlement caused by violence that targets a specific ethnic/religious group is ethnic cleansing just so you know. And I don't see how this is related to the recent refugee crisis, its directly the result of actions by the government and military of Myanmar.From what I've read, a thousand or so people have died in the past couple of years, in various skirmishes. That's about the same number of people that get murdered in Chicago each year.
The Muslim genocide here sounds about as convincing as the white genocide.
Probably it's just a mass-scale Muslim re-settlement into more fertile/less hostile areas, sparked by the recent "refugee crisis", that's being marketed to Western liberal-minded buffoons under the label of genocide.
Muslims belong in the Arabic peninsula. Nowhere else.
What you are requesting is the same as asking the Israelis to be ok with neo-nazi settlers, as long as they stay long enough.
Lol, at "let Islam in", the Rohingya have been there for generations and they just want citizenship in the country.I don't understand why people are picking on Burma. What do you think happens if they let Islam in. They will burn down the Buddhist Temples like they did in Afghanistan and start converting Buddhists with the sword.
These people have a home. It is called Bangladesh.Lol, at "let Islam in", the Rohingya have been there for generations and they just want citizenship in the country.
But I'm not surprised you're playing apologist for ethnic cleansing. You seem quite fond of mass death when its people you don't like such as Africans or Muslims.
Mod Note: Reminder about the violence/ genocide policy. You are able to discuss this topic but please do so without wishing death/ genocide on those involved or refrain from posting. You can criticize a group without doing this.
I haven't seen any threads about this. I've seen the videos of Buddhist monks burning rohingyas alive and worse things; looks as bad as isis.
Would have never imagined the dalai lama and his mates burning people alive and chit.
So what do you think?
Mass-scale resettlement caused by violence that targets a specific ethnic/religious group is ethnic cleansing just so you know. And I don't see how this is related to the recent refugee crisis, its directly the result of actions by the government and military of Myanmar.
Funny how they've been living in Myanmar for generations though.These people have a home. It is called Bangladesh.
Your own link says the separatist movement lost momentum and support in the 50s and 60s. Here's what a more recently formed Rohingya political organization, the Arakan Rohingya National Organization, asks forThey don't just want citizenship. They want a separate state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar
The proclaimed beliefs and objectives of ARNO are as follows:[1]
- The right of self-determination of the Rohingya people must be given within a Burmese federation
- Rohingya history and cultural heritage must be preserved without prejudice towards the growth and preservation of other religious and indigenous culture in Arakan (Rakhine)
- The continued religious persecution of Rohingya Muslims by the Burmese military must be stopped
- Rohingya refugees must be repatriated from refugee camps to their villages
- Human resource development, particularly in socio-cultural, economic, educational and technical fields, must be established
- A welfare society based on equality, liberty, democracy, human rights and freedom for all ethnic groups in Burma (Myanmar)
- "Peaceful co-existence" with the Rakhine community and among all other peoples in Arakan as well as in the whole country
- Support for the Burmese opposition and democratic groups
- Support for the landmine ban treaty
- Support for the rights of Rohingya women and girls to education, health and economic empowerment
- Support for educating the youth about the dangers of drugs and disease (i.e. AIDS)
- Protection of the environment, including forests, rivers, wetlands, coastline ocean
- Unsustainable logging, killing of endangered species, all forms of pollution, and over fishing must be stopped
- Support for a future sustainable, appropriate, clean, and beneficial development to the common people
Lol at enforcing borders when they're expelling people from Myanmar to Bangladesh. But I get it, you enjoy the deaths of people you consider non-human like Muslims and Africans. You'd be elated if some natural disaster just wiped these people off the face of the earth.I just think that Burma has a right to enforce its borders and defend itself against militants. The Burmaese have a right to remain a Buddhist nation. We should not shame them for believing in sovereignty.
Lol at enforcing borders when they're expelling people from Myanmar to Bangladesh. But I get it, you enjoy the deaths of people you consider non-human like Muslims and Africans. You'd be elated if some natural disaster just wiped these people off the face of the earth.
Ethnic cleansing doesn't necessarily require that the targets are killed if they're being displaced in mass numbers by violence. To be fair I'm not very well read on this conflict but the exodus of the Rohingya seems to have greatly increased in the aftermath of the military response in 2016. If its deliberately done to cause this exodus then its very much ethnic cleansing.Random violence against Muslims in the area isn't exactly a recent phenomenon. The government and the military have discriminated against Muslims in the area for atleast 50 years if not more. To call it a "cleansing" or a "genocide" though, would require a more systematic form of mass murder. Recognized genocides have traditionally led to a significant part of a population being exterminated, but in this case, we are seeing an event more comparable to the migration of Southern blacks into the North in the United States, to seek a better life after being fed up by Southern segregation policies and random lynchings (which were done more so for the purpose of terror rather than actual "cleansing").
The refugee crisis served as the igniting spark for third world populations to give preference to re-settling into new areas rather than solving problems locally, due to the support and encouragement given to the re-settlers by the globalist lobby. The opening of national borders has began a whole new era of human history, where crises are solved through migration.
No one is asking them to open their borders, its you asking Bangladesh to open its borders to these people who have lived in Myanmar for generations.You are wrong to think that I view Muslims as subhuman. I don't at all. I applaud them for having a culture that still is strong and vibrant. It is the West that is lost its way and is not longer willing to defend itself. All I am saying is that Burma should not be villfied because it is not ready to open its borders like the West is.
I can't believe this hasn't been brought up but its the same story each time with Muslims in Burma. They gang rape/murder some Buddist women and unlike western cuck liberals, Buddist fight back. Muslims are 4% of the population, show some respect.
"Over the last two years accusations of sexual assault and local disputes have created a flashpoint for violence that has quickly escalated into widespread communal clashes.
Sadly, I'd bet that a high percentage of Muslims in Burma do not view rape as a crime to a infedel.
- The first and most deadly incident began in June 2012 when widespread rioting and clashes between Rakhine Buddhists and Muslims, largely thought to be Rohingya Muslims, left 200 dead and displaced thousands. It was the rape and murder of a young Buddhist woman which sparked off that deadly chain of events
- In March 2013 an argument in a gold shop in Meiktila in central Myanmar led to violence between Buddhists and Muslims which left more than 40 people dead and entire neighbourhoods razed
- In August 2013 rioters burnt Muslim-owned houses and shops in the central town of Kanbalu after police refused to hand over a Muslim man accused of raping a Buddhist woman
- In January 2014, the UN said that more than 40 Rohingya men, women and children were killed in Rakhine state in violence that flared after accusations that Rohingyas killed a Rakhine policeman.
- In June 2014, two people were killed and five hurt in Mandalay, Myanmar's second city, following a rumour that spread on social media that a Buddhist woman had been raped by one or more Muslim men" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18395788
They did not "start immigrating in the 1970s" . They have been there centuries earlier. Some of or most of them appear to have been brought to Burma during British colonialism but some were there a lot earlier.I don't understand why people are picking on Burma. What do you think happens if they let Islam expand. These guys start immigrating in the 1970s and now there is already a million of them. They will burn down the Buddhist Temples like they did in Afghanistan and start converting Buddhists with the sword.
One can say the same thing about Korean Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Laotian Americans, Filipino Americans , Burmese Americans - that they can all return to Korea, Vietnam,Laos, Phillipines , Myanmar.These people have a home. It is called Bangladesh.
That's not true, Muslims were the victims of violence in Syria and Iraq and that got a lot of coverage. Muslims were also the victims in attacks within the West that got coverage.When muslims are victims you never hear that in the news. It's not even considered ethnic cleansing by the leader.
We only hear muslims are aggressors in Fox news and CNN. We are played by the media on a daily basis.
Im a Southern American, I know I'm being played by the media.
Lol @ balance. Yeah, accusations of rape justify ethnic cleansing and systemic oppressionCheers, for the balance. I was starting to wonder if the people saying it wasn't potentially provoked were correct.
There's always more to a story than meets the eye.
Re. boldedYou are wrong to think that I view Muslims as subhuman. I don't at all. I applaud them for having a culture that still is strong and vibrant. It is the West that is lost its way and is not longer willing to defend itself. All I am saying is that Burma should not be villfied because it is not ready to open its borders like the West is.
How is this different than when India and Pakistan split up. And that ended up being for the best right?
That's true.Then White people dont belong in North America.
It ended up with ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Hindu and Christian population of Pakistan, such that their numbers in Pakistan now are a tiny insignificant %. During partion Muslims also fled India to Pakistan but it is Pakistan that has succeeded in killing and driving out the Hindus and Christians while India has nearly as many Muslisms as Pakistan. So I don't know how one can say it has been for the best. Best for Muslims maybee. Christians and Hindus in Pakistan are still being genocided and hounded. Only like a day or 2 ago Muslim kids beat to death a Christian boy in a Pakistani school.You are wrong to think that I view Muslims as subhuman. I don't at all. I applaud them for having a culture that still is strong and vibrant. It is the West that is lost its way and is not longer willing to defend itself. All I am saying is that Burma should not be villfied because it is not ready to open its borders like the West is.
How is this different than when India and Pakistan split up. And that ended up being for the best right?
That's not true, Muslims were the victims of violence in Syria and Iraq and that got a lot of coverage. Muslims were also the victims in attacks within the West that got coverage.
The problem is Myanmar does not appear strategically relevant to anyone so it doesn't seem like any country gains from intervening in a forceful manner. Erdogan and some Gulf sheikhs are sending aid, probably to boost their prestige among Muslims, but even they seem unwilling to do much more than that.
It sucks but the reality is that if you are a minority like the Rohingya being persecuted, you have to convince the countries strong enough to do something about it that there is something in it for them.
Lol @ balance. Yeah, accusations of rape justify ethnic cleansing and systemic oppression
I'll give you that you beat me up this thread but I'll get you in the next one.It ended up with ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Hindu and Christian population of Pakistan, such that their numbers in Pakistan now are a tiny insignificant %. During partion Muslims also fled India to Pakistan but it is Pakistan that has succeeded in killing and driving out the Hindus and Christians while India has nearly as many Muslisms as Pakistan. So I don't know how one can say it has been for the best. Best for Muslims maybee. Christians and Hindus in Pakistan are still being genocided and hounded. Only like a day or 2 ago Muslim kids beat to death a Christian boy in a Pakistani school.