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Opinion On the subject of western Maoism
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U r using a straw man. Pls refer to lindsay's very comprehensive definition of qhat is woke culture as referenced to the purveyors of that idea themselves.
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I think there are more examples of resolving disagreements with force or personal attacks from the left than from the right. Do you think January 6 was more violent than the BLM protests that went on in cities in the U.S.?are you serious?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
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Well, first note that truth is truth. But second, everyone gets to decide what they think is true.
On the first point, I gave a couple of examples of how what could be real arguments (immigration policy, police policy) are marred by rightists just lying to avoid the discussion. Many areas where we see similar things. Anyone following the evidence on climate change, the impact of regressive tax cuts, evolution, and more will find themselves on the outs with the movement--and those are not value judgments, it's just that the right as a movement rejects the notion of objective truth. On the last point, think of the movement to shut down Twitter because they fact-checked the president.
are you serious?
Do u mean the capitol riot that was denounced by many republicans?
Let's not forget that the violent and undemocratic riot in portland against trump's election victory in 2016.
There are always going to be people who go too far on both sides. That shouldn't be used as a stick to beat right thinking people on both sides.
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What do you mean? I'm saying that authoritarians keep misleadingly shifting the meaning they use.
Typical response of an ideologically possessed leftist. Just insult and dismiss others who disagree with them without interacting with them.
I understood u as agreeing with that other poster that lindaay didn't define what he meant by woke culture. I provided a link where he did at great length.
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that's a false equivalency, the BLM riots were not started by democrats for political purposes.
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It's not that there's no definitions--it's that there are multiple ones used inconsistently.
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was it denounced by the leader of the republican party?
did democrats plan the BLM riots? did democrats make the police kill those black people to start the riots?
Trump's own party did not back him. Pence refused to do what he wanted. Isn't that proof of the republicans' devotion to the constitution amd rule of law? Sure there are some militant trumpists but the Democrats have their own militant Marxist types too.
Which gop candidate wanted whose voting rights to be taken? I must have missed that...
As for the reversal of roe v wade, no one has the right to murder ones own baby. That reversal potentially saved the lives of hundreds of thoisands of American babies in the womb and reversed an eggregious overstep of scotus authority that should never have been made. That was a great day for life, democracy and justice when roe v wade was sent to the scrap heap of history.
Cancel culture is also synonymous with deplatforming and which leftists are very fond of enforcing against those on the right. It starts with being censored or silenced or having ones posts deleted or banned from social media, to pressure to ones employer to sack the offending person for expressing his politics or religious view, to boycotting businesses etc. That has happened to numerous ordinary people.
The riot was denounced by numerous Republican leaders. The Republican party didn't plan the capitol riot either.
On the portland riots even if the police killed blacks that did not justify the riots.
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thats funny, the leader of the GOP is now having legal trouble for planing the capitol riot...
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It's proof that Pence didn't think he could get away with it. But among voters, there was widespread sympathy for Trump's cause. And, sure, there are some Democrats who have rightist views of democracy, but it's not nearly as common.
Ramaswarmy. And Trump is the leading contender. And RDS is also high on the list.
I understand that you support taking people's rights, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
"Deplatforming" also is not an infringement on speech. Also note that it's not like liberals get a big platform on rightist sites.
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I think that provides a perfectly good definition of Woke -
"The notion of 'getting woke' (or staying woke) is defined as being acutely aware of racial and social injustice—not just awareness and acknowledgement of isolated incidents, but awareness from a position of understanding systemic and institutional racism."
It just has nothing to do with marxism. And trying to torturously drag the concept of "getting woke" through Americal legal theory, and somehow make the leap economic theory grinding past "late-stage-capitalism", past social democracy, past basic marxism, and shoe horn it in to Maoism is not just a strech... it's laugable.
Most "woke" kids just think George Floyd didn't need his neck compressed for 9 minutes. There's no direct line between that and social upheaval. We can provide a greater level of social justice without anyone become the footsoldiers of a communist army. It seems crazy to me that anyone would need that pointed out.
No, pence refused to do it becsuse it was in his view against his constitutional role. You choose to take the most unfavourable rationale possible for his commendable action...
Liberating the camps in poland and defeating and overthrowing the nazi government in Germany also meant the withdrawal of the right to exterminate Jews as well in the concentration camps. Its a good thing to withdraw rights to do evil things.
Deplatforming goes way beyond preferring to buy from Republican supporting suppliers. It involves the malicious and intentional act of applying economic and social pressure so as to get somebody sacked or to destroy someone's business purely because of his political or religious stand. It also includes silencing and censoring someone which is a direct curtailing of his freedom of speech.
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thats funny, the leader of the GOP is now having legal trouble for planing the capitol riot...
And there i was thinking the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty still applied...
It's also not irrelevant that this indictment would color Trump's campaign and prejudice it in circs where trump would be the democrats biggest opponent to relection.
The fact that you cannot see the endemic Marxism running through the progressive ideology that has taken over the democratic party isn't surprising - its always hard to accept the truth when u r part of the system ...
