Law Utah dismantles DEI, Democrats mourn and hold a funeral for it

You push lunacy too far and jump the shark with things like letting anyone that throws on a wig and lipstick into women’s rest rooms and this is what you get. Trans people may be loud but they are such a small segment that they know voting makes no difference. You can’t get rights by infringing on others. And DEI was only inclusive to certain minorities. Which.....isn’t inclusive or diverse. There are already scholarships and financial breaks for higher education that existed way before DEI. Again...only for certain minorities. What a joke
 
Where I work, every day there are people wearing masks.

You know who? The people who feel they might be a little sick. They wear the masks to protect others, not themselves. That's what masks do.

The people you're laughing at aren't wearing masks to protect themselves.
You think those ugly tanks all feel a little sick? Just stop the nonsense.....lmao.....
 
Where I work, every day there are people wearing masks.

You know who? The people who feel they might be a little sick. They wear the masks to protect others, not themselves. That's what masks do.

The people you're laughing at aren't wearing masks to protect themselves.
They’re protecting nothing, they’re just virtue signalling.
 
You think those ugly tanks all feel a little sick? Just stop the nonsense.....lmao.....

Masks make a huge difference, I haven't had a cold or flu since before the pandemic.
 
Are surgeons virtue signalling when they wear masks?
It’s perfectly reasonable for a guy who’s gonna spend hours leaning over your open wound.

It’s unrealistic and nonsensical for all every day interactions between humans.

Very stupid comparison, if you’re going to stitch me up, I’m obviously gonna expect you to wear some medical gloves. That doesn’t mean I expect you to wear those gloves at all times.

If I’m gonna go into a shootout, I might put on a bulletproof vest, but it doesn’t seem very practical to wear one all the time in case I might get shot at.

The world can be dangerous in a million ways every time I step outside my house or even within my house… at some point I decide I’m just gonna take my chances and live my life.
 
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It’s perfectly reasonable for a guy who’s gonna spend hours leaning over your open wound.

It’s unrealistic and nonsensical for all every day interactions between humans.

Very stupid comparison, if you’re going to stitch me up, I’m obviously gonna expect you to wear some medical gloves. That doesn’t mean I expect you to wear those gloves at all times.

And what do you think it's doing as he leans over your open wound?
 
Say what you want about these two bills or about the party that voted in favor. The big thing here is that the State legislature choose to tackle these issue right off the bat as opposed to tackling the big ass lake that’s drying up. Priorities people.
 
I love that in 2024 "The wide-sweeping proposal requires that diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, offices at the state’s eight public colleges and universities, specifically, be reframed. They can no longer be race- or gender-based, but instead must cater to all students as generalized “student success and support” centers." is considered a conservative position and something that should be fought against.

The world has gone mad.
 
And what do you think it's doing as he leans over your open wound?
It's stopping him from drooling into it.

Again, bullet proof vests have their utility as well, it's still not reasonable for me to walk about my every day life wearing one.

I prefer to take responsibility for myself, and maintain a healthy and robust immune system, and I will take my chances with the flu variants that will inevitably come my way.

Acting like I'm responsible for someone else's health or they for mine is ridiculous.
 


Just 10 days into the legislative session, Senate Republicans have taken the last major vote to approve dismantling diversity programs across all of public education and government in Utah — one of the most far-reaching measures in the country.

The full impact of the measure is still not known. But now public colleges, K-12 schools and offices across the state will have to determine what of their efforts violate the measure and then eliminate those.

The Senate voted 23-6, with all Democrats in opposition, on Thursday to pass HB261. It goes back to the House again for final agreement on minor amendments Friday.


[MORE: Visit The Salt Lake Tribune’s bill tracker to search through hundreds of bills by issue or number.]

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox has already signaled his support to sign the measure into law. That would put the final bow on the controversial and conservative measure that has been fast-tracked from the start of a legislative session zeroed in on underrepresented communities in the state.

The wide-sweeping proposal requires that diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, offices at the state’s eight public colleges and universities, specifically, be reframed. They can no longer be race- or gender-based, but instead must cater to all students as generalized “student success and support” centers.

That same premise applies to K-12 schools and government offices, which are similarly prohibited from using the terms “diversity, equity and inclusion” in their efforts. No other state that has passed an anti-DEI measure has included as many institutions.

Senate sponsor Sen. Keith Grover, R-Provo, celebrated the measure with comments before the vote, saying: “All voices will be heard.”

The Senate rules were suspended to pass the bill Thursday. Measures with fiscal impact are typically tabled until later in the session, but the bill, with a $1 million note, was allowed to move forward anyway.

HB261 additionally bans schools and government employers from asking job applicants for a statement about their beliefs on diversity or inclusion and could lose state funding for violating that. And all entities would be required to eliminate any training on “discriminatory practices” while replacing that with instruction on free speech from all viewpoints.

There are exceptions in the bill for federal requirements and grants around diversity.

The bill has been panned by a laundry list of organizations, as well as many individuals of color who have spoken out against it. That includes Equality Utah, Black Lives Matter Utah, the ACLU of Utah, multiple Pacific Islander groups, educator unions and students from every college in the state. The state’s commissioner over higher education also raised questions about the “untested” approach that he said would be “difficult to implement.”

Questions remain on what is or isn’t touched by the broad measure. Grover has acknowledged that it could inadvertently impact Native American tuition waivers across the state, as well as the longstanding agreement where the Ute Indian Tribe has granted the University of Utah permission to use its name and imagery.

“We’re just not sure,” he said earlier this week. “There could be an impact. … The legislation could have that unintended consequence.”

A last-minute substitute was added to protect private scholarships, which appears to be an effort to safeguard at least some of the Native tuition waivers, as long as they don’t use state funding. Universities can support scholarships, based on race then, as long as the money is from donors. The U.’s Native scholarship is currently set up that way.

“That’s not affected,” Grover said Thursday, talking about the amendment.

But not all of the institutions in the state that offer those Native tuition waivers fund those privately.

Students from various backgrounds who benefit from DEI have also questioned whether the support they rely on will be erased. That includes offices for students of color, first-generation students, students who are single parents and students with disabilities.

Bill sponsor Rep. Katy Hall, R-South Ogden, has said her measure wouldn’t close cultural centers or clubs — but would instead open them to all individuals. She has said, in that way, she believes HB261 fights discrimination based on personal identities.

“DEI has come to mean differential treatment in some cases,” she said during one hearing. “And we want everyone to get the support they need no matter what.”

Democratic lawmakers tried several times to pause the bill for further study, but those efforts were defeated as it was pushed through in eight days.

Sen. Karen Kwan, D-Salt Lake City, who is the first ever Chinese American to serve in the Utah Legislature, pleaded in a last push Thursday with her colleagues to vote against the bill.

“I’ve received hundreds of emails, texts and phone calls from constituents who are terrified of having their cultural and ethnic history erased,” she said. “... We must consider that potential harm and reevaluate.”

She talked about her previous work as an advisor at the University of Utah’s then-called Center for Ethnic Student Affairs. Many of those offices, Kwan said, are “the only safe space” for students from diverse backgrounds.

Sen. Luz Escamilla, D-Salt Lake City, compared the demographics of the state with those of students enrolled in higher education in Utah — with minorities far less represented at universities and colleges.

“If Utah’s enrollment is not even close to where it’s needed to be, we’re failing,” she said, choking up. “And this is not the solution.”

One Democratic senator wore a pin with flags for the LGBTQ community. Another had a pin that read, “Utah Students Deserve More.”

All Republicans in the Senate voted in favor of the bill, but none stood to talk in support of it Thursday.





Utah Dems wear black to 'mourn' passage of bills protecting women’s spaces, banning DEI in universities

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Democratic Utah lawmakers wore all black for a press conference on Thursday after the passage of a bill banning DEI offices on college campuses, trainings in government jobs, and statements in job applications, as well as a bill that limits transgender individuals to the bathrooms for their biological sex or gender-neutral bathrooms.

In a clip from the press conference, State Senate Minority Leader Luz Escamilla and others in a group wore black and said they were "hurting" from the passage of the bills.

Escamilla stated, "We are hurting, and we join our... vulnerable communities through this process."

She went on to explain that the two bills had passed through the Utah State Senate and were then going to the Republican Governor Spencer Cox's desk.

Bill HB257 limits the access of transgender individuals to use bathrooms of their own sex or gender-neutral single-use stalls, unless they have undergone a sex change surgery, while HB261 prohibits discriminatory DEI offices in state-run colleges and universities as well as DEI statements for hiring in public institutions.

Both passed in the Utah State Senate on Thursday. The bill regarding transgender bathroom access faced pushback from protestors, some of whom went into the capitol building.

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The transgender bathroom bill clarifies that the definition of "female" to be the "characteristic of an individual whose biological reproductive system is of the general type that functions in a way that could produce ova."

"Male," the bill designates, means "the characteristic of an individual whose biological reproductive system is of the general type that functions to fertilize the ova of a female."

Although the bill will place limits on individuals using opposite-sex bathrooms, all people can still use gender-neutral single-stall and family restrooms in public facilities. These rules apply similarly to school locker rooms.

The anti-DEI bill has been weeks in the making after Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said that having professors and other staff at public colleges signing onto required diversity statement is "bordering on evil."

After backlash against his comments, reports that some statements characterized as misleading came from a local Utah outlet, the Salt Lake Tribune, which stated that only 0.015 percent of the budget at the University of Utah goes towards DEI.

The outlet qualified that the expense defined by the college as "DEI" was "only the main Office of Equity, Diversity, & Inclusion" on campus, although many other DEI committees and offices are at separate schools of the college.
Bro you're Canadian why do you have a boner for America?
 
Acting like I'm responsible for someone else's health or they for mine is ridiculous.

And that's the difference between you guys and human beings.

It's like you don't understand or care what it means to be a part of a community.
 
Are surgeons virtue signalling when they wear masks?
You know someone has a high IQ when they try to compare mask-wearing from average joes going about their day in public areas to surgeons who go through strict safety protocols to work in a private, highly sterilized area over someone's open chest, like it's even close to the same thing.

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"Yea, some 10-year old kid walking down the street is the same situation as LeBron James playing in game 7 of the NBA Finals because both wear sneakers"
 
You know someone has a high IQ when they try to compare mask-wearing from average joes going about their day in public areas to surgeons who go through strict safety protocols to work in a private, highly sterilized area over someone's open chest, like it's even close to the same thing.

<Dany07>

"Yea, some 10-year old kid walking down the street is the same situation as LeBron James playing in game 7 of the NBA Finals because both wear sneakers"

You do realize what you're describing are tools performing the exact same functions, right? All you're trying to prove is that the degree matters, where it does not. The situation does not matter.

Are masks worn by surgeons to reduce or prevent transmission? Yes, they are.

Masks were proven effective more than a century ago during the Spanish Flu. Anti-maskers say that masks don't protect you but that (apart from being false) isn't the primary function. They reduce the amount you transmit if you have the virus, and they make a big difference.
 
You do realize what you're describing are tools performing the exact same functions, right? All you're trying to prove is that the degree matters, where it does not. The situation does not matter.

Are masks worn by surgeons to reduce or prevent transmission? Yes, they are.

Masks were proven effective more than a century ago during the Spanish Flu. Anti-maskers say that masks don't protect you but that (apart from being false) isn't the primary function. They reduce the amount you transmit if you have the virus, and they make a big difference.
Masks are not that effective which is why other safety strategies have to be utilized. It's why even Fauci said early in 2020 that masks will at most block a few drops but are largely ineffective.

They're even less effective when people, without thinking, adjust it 100s of times a day with whatever bacteria that was on their hands getting on the mask and thus their face.
 
Utah is one of the few good states left in the country, but Californians have been moving there in droves. They actually have a gang problem in their cities now.

Dem cities churn these people out and spread them like a virus.

It's actually rather interesting in how it's done, despite being an indication of eventual collapse (they're so far programmed that they flee from what they create, only to create it elsewhere....and from host to host they'll go unless stopped).
 
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Masks are not that effective which is why other safety strategies have to be utilized. It's why even Fauci said early in 2020 that masks will at most block a few drops but are largely ineffective.

They're even less effective when people, without thinking, adjust it 100s of times a day with whatever bacteria that was on their hands getting on the mask and thus their face.

They aren't THAT effective but they're effective and yes they have to be used in concert with other strategies. Every little bit counts. It's been more than four years since I caught a cold or flu, and I usually got one every year.

Fauci was talking about masks as personal protection, not a community strategy, and people have been deliberately misunderstanding him from the very beginning.

Your last paragraph shows that we aren't on the same page. The things you breathe out into a mask aren't going to hurt you, because they were already in you. You want to keep that stuff away from others, that's what they're good for. The virus travels primarily in large droplets, and every reduction in those helps.

I had to wear a mask eight hours a day at work and that sucked. Very few people got Covid. Then the mask mandate was dropped because everyone was vaccinated and almost everyone got Covid, but they were vaccinated so it wasn't too bad.

I think it boils down to masks being an inconvenience and people not liking inconvenience. They absolutely work, we've known this since Spanish Flu. They masked up and stopped a wave in it's tracks, but the next wave they were sick of masks and hundreds of thousands died.
 
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