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[oldshadow]

Where the other prosecutions under this law also political?

I could understand the "political" argument if he was the only person prosecuted under this law or if his abuse of the law was minimal. But neither are true. I'm sure his being high profile didn't help but that's not the same thing as being targeted solely because he's a political figure.

I live in a major metropolitan city. Every year, local or state politicians get arrested for some sort of financial malfeasance. Sometimes it's big, sometimes it's medium. But it's not abnormal.

The theme that I keep reading, which I think should bother people, is that people don't care if the law was broken because he's a famous politician. Any time you prosecute a politician, people are going to read it as political. That's fine but it shouldn't override their understanding of if a law was broken or the extent to which it is broken.

I agree but sometimes so are gone after and others overlooked cut some "sweetheart" deal because of their politics.

Hell some are even not held accountable because they mentally don't understand what they did.

 

[Prutfis]

Nice "my side only".

Already said its not my side. And i never mentioned sides at all. You seem to have a hard time with posting anything but strawmen.
I guess thats what you have to do to justify to yourself that you are shilling for a criminal.

 

[Damien Karras]

My opinion holds far more weight than an uneducated alt left-forum activist. Your takes are so comically off base and illogical, the folks on here that live in the real world view you as a parody…

lol Panaimaican is a lawyer. What are your credentials?

 

[idrankyourbeer]

You don’t even know what this is about. The token Trump activist DA armed with a catchy slogan “Art of the Steal” much like Cochran and his catchy slogan with the OJ Simpson case has proved absolutely nothing.

First of all, “Fraudulently inflating assets“ it’s completely irrelevant because 1) the bank decodes the worth that ultimately dictates the business loans 2) assets are subject to FMV, Goodwill, speculation and other qualitative measures.

Not a single wealthy person on earth has ever valued their assets less than banks. To not see this is a Banana Republic level witch hunt you are either a burger flipper or TDS zombie.

its just such a banana republic that if you go and lie to the banks while attempting to take out a loan, you're going to end up being dragged to court and answering to it sooner or later too, just like the fraudy orange election-losing rapist who you champion for. so unfair!!!!!

where's the problem? or do you just want to see a bunch of rich con men get away with their crimes while peasants like you cheer them on from the sidelines? you really want that two-tiered justice system don't ya muppet?

what are you even trying to get out of that anyways? you do know that you mean absolutely nothing to these people right? i mean they had no problem with lying to your face and sending over 1300 of the finest spectrum of maga trash to jail while pardoning the guy who stole your build-the-wall money instead of any of you fine losers. you can keep licking the dog shit off of their shoes they sell you but you will always mean nothing to them.....well maybe until you forget to check the box to enable recurring donations and at that point they're gonna know that you've deserted them for socialism and the radical left and they aren't going to be very happy about it when they find out, and they might not be so friendly to you the next time they have to remind you to give the super rich guy some more of your money.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Sure all should be equal under the law.

Unless it's democrats then "they are just doing this because of politics".

You know like Hunter and his dad.

Keep Joe's name out your whore mouth.

The clown house has been investigating Joe since they became the majority and have ZILCH to show for it.
Well, other than retards like yourself falling for the character assassination but of course that IS the point isn't it. Get the rubes to believe Joe is dirty.

You've played your part well, Rube.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Oh, AND the doofus that started this "protest" has already back pedaled on this stupidity and deleted his original post.

I guess he found out that once you get fired the money stops coming in, or something. This FreeDumb movement was DOA.

"Chicago Ray" FTW.

 

[oldshadow]

Keep Joe's name out your whore mouth.

The clown house has been investigating Joe since they became the majority and have ZILCH to show for it.
Well, other than retards like yourself falling for the character assassination but of course that IS the point isn't it. Get the rubes to believe Joe is dirty.

You've played your part well, Rube.

I understand you love you some Hunter dick.

Creepy Joe has been pulling strings to protect and help enrich his crack baby since before he was VP. They will get him and the crack baby even with all his handlers and the democrats doing anything the can legal or not to protect them.

 

[CatchnShoot]

I understand you love you some Hunter dick.

Creepy Joe has been pulling strings to protect and help enrich his crack baby since before he was VP. They will get him and the crack baby even with all his handlers and the democrats doing anything the can legal or not to protect them.

Sure thing, Comer.

I don't care what you say about Hunter, kid's a mess.
But you losers trying to tarnish Joe is like me giving you a hard time because your mother is a Crackhead.
Two different people.

 

[oldshadow]

Sure thing, Comer.

The truth backup boy.

 

[Scerpi]

You're welcome to your uninformed opinion.

lol... Exactly who was defrauded? The banks?

This was a garbage verdict by a biased activist judge. Trump will never have to pay a cent after appeals.

 

[CatchnShoot]

lol... Exactly who was defrauded? The banks?

This was a garbage verdict by a biased activist judge. Trump will never have to pay a cent after appeals.

On what grounds do you imagine they will appeal?

 

[Scerpi]

Sure thing, Comer.

I don't care what you say about Hunter, kid's a mess.
But you losers trying to tarnish Joe is like me giving you a hard time because your mother is a Crackhead.
Two different people.

Joe tarnishes himself on a daily basis without any help from anyone else.

And letting his son represent him overseas was a colossal fuck up

 

[Scerpi]

On what grounds do you imagine they will appeal?

These verdicts always to go to appeals.

"Former President Donald Trump will contest Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron’s definition of “fraud” when he appeals the $355 million judgment made against him last week in his civil trial, according to his lawyer.

“The case raises serious legal and constitutional questions regarding ‘fraud’ claims/findings without any actual fraud,” Trump’s attorney, Christopher Kise, told Newsweek Monday.

Trump’s appeal will need to demonstrate that James does not possess the power to punish him “without showing the traditional elements of fraud: (1) scienter—basically intent to defraud, (2) false statements of fact rather than opinion or trade puffing, (3) reasonable reliance by the victims, (4) materiality, (5) causation, and (6) damages,” Syracuse University of Law Professor Greg Germain told Newsweek.

“I think he has a strong argument that when the attorney general seeks to punish for past use, rather than prevent future use, she would have to show all of the traditional elements of fraud,” he added.

The New York AG is likely to counter that under state law, her broad powers to investigate and prosecute cases of alleged civil fraud don’t require her to prove that all six elements exist, according to Germain."

And exactly who was defrauded?

 

[sickc0d3r]

I understand you love you some Hunter dick.

Creepy Joe has been pulling strings to protect and help enrich his crack baby since before he was VP. They will get him and the crack baby even with all his handlers and the democrats doing anything the can legal or not to protect them.

There’s not even enough proof of misbehavior by Joe for the MAGA House to find the votes to impeach, yet you’re convinced he’s dirty.
Meanwhile, Trump‘s business fraud actually happened, it is documented, he’s also banned from running charities in NY because of fraud, he also paid 25M for his fraudulent university, and you’re defending him like he’s a victim. Who’s being manipulated by partisan political bullshit again?

 

[CatchnShoot]

Joe tarnishes himself on a daily basis without any help from anyone else.

And letting his son represent him overseas was a colossal fuck up

Hunter represented Hunter. Joe didn't get him the job.

It's like you folks don't know that Hunter has a bachelor's from Georgetown, and a law degree from Yale. He was also Executive Vice President @ MBNA, Was on the board of directors @ Amtrak, has a ton of investing experience, and international business etc.

Feel free to disparage the guy, but you should also know that apart from loving to party he is quite an accomplished individual.

 

[oldshadow]

There’s not even enough proof of misbehavior by Joe for the MAGA House to find the votes to impeach, yet you’re convinced he’s dirty.
Meanwhile, Trump‘s business fraud actually happened, it is documented, he’s also banned from running charities in NY because of fraud, he also paid 25M for his fraudulent university, and you’re defending him like he’s a victim. Who’s being manipulated by partisan political bullshit again?

I haven't defend him, if he did it, then he did it.

All I stated was selective prosecution.

Hunter is guilty of all kinds of shit and his dad has pulled political strings to keep his involvement in it out of the investigation. He's used the justice department as a weapon to go after anyone trying to investigation him or his son.

 

[CatchnShoot]

These verdicts always to go to appeals.

"Former President Donald Trump will contest Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron’s definition of “fraud” when he appeals the $355 million judgment made against him last week in his civil trial, according to his lawyer.

“The case raises serious legal and constitutional questions regarding ‘fraud’ claims/findings without any actual fraud,” Trump’s attorney, Christopher Kise, told Newsweek Monday.

Trump’s appeal will need to demonstrate that James does not possess the power to punish him “without showing the traditional elements of fraud: (1) scienter—basically intent to defraud, (2) false statements of fact rather than opinion or trade puffing, (3) reasonable reliance by the victims, (4) materiality, (5) causation, and (6) damages,” Syracuse University of Law Professor Greg Germain told Newsweek.

“I think he has a strong argument that when the attorney general seeks to punish for past use, rather than prevent future use, she would have to show all of the traditional elements of fraud,” he added.

The New York AG is likely to counter that under state law, her broad powers to investigate and prosecute cases of alleged civil fraud don’t require her to prove that all six elements exist, according to Germain."

And exactly who was defrauded?

lol.... what that tells me is that Chris Kise is not familiar with NY law. The appeal is just going to add to Trump's bills. Go get that donor money Chris! The NY AG DOES have broader powers than those in a similar position in, say Florida where Mr. Kise practices.
It's the price of doing business in the business capitol of the world.

In addition.... The AG did both... seek to punish past behavior, AND prevent future use.

Who WASN'T defrauded? Every other business seeking to compete with Trump for financing was put at a disadvantage because of Donnie's fraud. Trump wanted to play on a rigged table--and that is illegal.
If you tell the state that your home is worth 25M, but you use that asset to secure a loan valuing it at 1 Billion.... THAT is fraud. You are misrepresenting reality to secure favorable loans and loan terms. It's just that simple. Taken to the limit of that argument, the state, or all the people of NY were defrauded as well.

Also, the bank very much was defrauded as well, whether or not they choose to sue Donnie or not, because if they had actual numbers in the statement of financial condition Donnie would have had to pay much higher interest...to the tune of millions of dollars.
They'd really rather not advertise how they were rooked.

Deutshe Bank (the bank in question) doesn't do business with Trump any more...is that because he's such a great person to deal with?

 

[CatchnShoot]

...
Hunter is guilty of all kinds of shit and his dad has pulled political strings to keep his involvement in it out of the investigation. He's used the justice department as a weapon to go after anyone trying to investigation him or his son.

Yep, Joe protected him so hard that he's facing criminal charges.... protected him so hard that he's for sure going to pardon Hunter right?
Joe pressured the DOJ not to charge Hunter? Joe demanded a special prosecutor David Weiss (a Trump appointee btw) be assigned to the Hunter Biden case to "protect" him?

 

[Your Salad]

Arrest them anyway and give their jobs to the migrants

Stop saying "migrants" just call them what they are. Illegal Immigrants.

 

[44nutman]

So if Trump is always so innocent how come he takes L after L after L in court?
dude was 1-65 in election fraud cases and you MAGA dumb fucks still believe the election was stolen.
Comer has had not 1 but 2 key witnesses busted for lying under oath but you MAGA dumb fucks believe Hunter is guilty of funneling money to Ole Man Biden.
MAGA puts feelings over facts. Lindsey Graham was Right. Trump is going to ruin the GOP and don’t worry after 2024, I will be there to tell you, I told you so. Ole Man Biden was ripe to take an L and the GOP pushed forward the only dude Ole Man Biden can beat And has already beat.
Trump is bout to take an L next month on the Stormy case so prepare your feelings for that L as well. You are not allowed to use campaign money to pay chicks who get paid to make gang bang videos. Imagine catching a charge for a chick who said you are a 2 pump chump with a tiny wiener.