hio Anuung (last post for now, gotta go pick up my ounce....its time!),
We already have free trade. TPP is not about facilitating trade
yes, we do have free trade. are you saying that because free trade exists between the US and various countries, any further free trade agreements are superfluous?
is this the argument you're trying to frame?
And how is it not related to wealth inequality?
what is this chart really supposed to prove, Anuung? that wealth distribution mechanisms in the US and globally favor the rich?
wealth distribution is unrelated to free trade. also, are you asking me to lose sleep about wealth distribution in Canada and Japan?
in the US, income and wealth disparities can be addressed by tax policy and fiscal policy. NOT by kneecapping US based corporate interests.
What exactly would it have done to pressure China?
i am not going to get into a side discussion on this. i like you Anuung. i think you're a solid poster and i share many of your perspectives; but i don't think you care about geopolitical pressure on China one way or another.
i'll answer your question, and you'll move on.
if you don't think an economic alliance formed in the Asia Pacific Region, spearheaded by the US, that specifically doesn't include China will have no effect on China, i don't want to argue this point with you.
Well, we've established that we don't get a vote for TPP. We get to vote for a candidate and oftentimes the options cancel each other out.
come on, man.
here in the US, we don't vote on ANY legislation. you vote for a candidate who has (hopefully) taken a stand on whatever legislation that concerns you, and you vote accordingly.
this should come as news to no one, and its not a conspiracy.
you're responding too quickly and not reading what i'm writing.
Wasn't making that argument, just pointing out the ramifications of globalization for the US worker
the US worker will no longer be protected from competing with the rest of the planet in 2018. that's life, Anuung.
At this point I think the damage to textiles is done. Not much left to bleed from the US textile industry that I can see. Maybe getting rid of a 0.5% tariff on teal fabric dye will revitalize it?
How TPP would affect other industries is unknown. Did we know currency manipulation, trade deficits, and outsourcing were going to be so damaging ahead of time?
US textiles are kaput, i think you're right on that.
you're a major textile producer, and you need labor. you have to compete with companies around the globe, and its a cut throat business.
where do you go to have your products made, Anuung? if you say "the USA" and you're competing with me, you're gonna have a fixture sale before Easter.
IG-meister, I was told currency manipulation doesn't exist anymore.
i've read Rod1's stuff. i'm at the shallow end of the pool, i don't have his acumen on these matters.
objectively, Anuung; do you feel the US manipulates its currency?
yes or no?
I never said you did, and you know this.
then why ask me a rhetorical question whose answer is self evident? i'd love that kind of language to be included, but outside of a fantasy movie penned by Aaron Sorkin, its not happening.
You suggested that we affect how the money gets redistributed.
You're saying tax policy. That ship has passed for the time being. Why not put it in right in a trade agreement
because the killing the TPP does nothing to address the issues that really concern you and i. all it does it hurt US based interests internationally. how in the world will that help?
Bernie would never have signed that tax "reform" into reality. neither would have Clinton.
gotta go, Anuung - i've been slogging away at photoshop for so long i think all the THC has left my system.
this is unacceptable.
talk more later Anuung Un Rama!!!
- IGIT